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KENAI CITY COUNCIL - WORK SESSION
AUGUST 9, 1989, 3:30 PM
KENAI CITY HALL
MAYOR JOHN J. WILLIAMS PRESIDING
ATTENDANCE:
Council: Mayor John Williams
Administration: Public Works Director Kornelis,
Engineer LaShot, Clerk Ruotsala, Admin. Asst.
Howard, Planning Secy Loper
Harbor Commission: Chairman Barry Eldridge
Fish & Game: Dave Nelson, Norval Netsch, Tom Donek,
Kevin Delaney
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I. ADDITIONAL BOAT RAMPS IN CITY
Mayor Williams. To access the river closer to Beaver
Creek we would like to trade land with Cheater Cone.
It will open bank sports fishery along the river. We
could have a boat basin below the Cone property to get
boats in and out. It would be similar to Poacher's
Cove.
Public Works Director Kornelis. Alternatives are: You
could go across the river. Mayor Williams. There is
no access. Mr. Kornelis.. Or to the Lofstedt property.
The Simpson property is for sale, but it will bring
people through a rgsidential area.
Mayor Williams. We could have a parking lot, launching
pond and concessioner.
Mr. Kornelis. We should do all the improvements. We
may have to run it at first.
Mayor -Williams. We could have one long channel instead
of floats. Mr. Kornelis. Or 2 channels, in and out.
Mr. Kornelis. By Oberts is too expensive and too high
up. Another option is State-owned land by Beaver
Creek. There is no access, we would have to work with.
Murphy.
Mayor Williams. We want to stay away from Beaver
Creek, it is controversial. This is a public entity,
public access for public use. It will be easier to get
a wetlands permit this way. There would be no
overnight camping, the concessioner would take care of
the waste oil, we will need bathrooms. The City will,
approve the rates. The concessioner can dispense fuel
if he wants to.
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Mr. Donek. The Corps. of Engineers will ask if the
City has an alternative that is not wetlands. Mayor
Williams. The City owns 2,100 acres, most is wetlands.
Mr. Kornelis. We have looked at alternatives. There
are access problems, some people are not willing to
sell.
Mr. Netsch. Maintenance is a concern. There should be
a provision for City responsibility. Mayor Williams..
We would have a cooperative agreement. We would expect
to maintain.
Mr. Donek. The Feds require a guarantee that funds -
will be used as stated. They will fund, the City will
guarantee use for 20 years. You could renew, but you
do not turn over ownership. If the City uses the land
for a match, the City would have to dedicate use but
would retain ownership. Improvements and.the cost of
building an access road could be used for match. We
are better at getting grants from the State for match.
Mr. Netsch. The match would be in our access budget.
Mayor Williams. We would be better utilizing City
lands for a match.
Mr. Donek. The land would have to be appraised.
Mr. Kornelis. Could Federal money be used for the
access road? Mr. Donek. They would prefer not.
Harbor Commission Chairman Eldridge. Could the project
be phased? Mr. Netsch replied yes. Mr. Donek. But
each year we would have to go to the Legislature.
Mayor Williams. We could use income from the dock.
Mr. Donek. The Feds do not like launch fees. Mr.
Netsch. If there are fees they should go back into the
dock, maintenance or improvements.
Mayor Williams. We will have to: a) get costs of the
program, b) exchange land, c) talk to the Feds. What
is the time frame for the 1991 budget? Mr. Netsch.
Next Tuesday (8-15-89). We do not have to have a final
figure. Mayor Williams. if there is a problem, can we
move forward? Mr. Donek replied yes. Mr. Netsch. It
is getting tighter on plans.
Mayor Williams. Engineer LaShot will get the
preliminary figure by 8-15, for the ramp and the
parking lot. Mr. Donek. It has to be less than
$200,000.
Mayor Williams. We should figure the cost of the road
to where we need it and the cost of the ramp, a filled.•.
area for 50 cars, a separate road and ramp/parking lot..
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II. DIN6ALL/JOHNSON ACT •
III. FEDERAL MATCHINf3 FUNDS
Mayor Williams. I talked to Paul Krasnoski, Fish &
Game, Anch. We looked for lands to utilize. We are
serving the public, there is no public access on the
river for 21 miles. Our City ramp is at the mouth of
the river, it is for commercial fishing. The exception
is during the dip net fishery. We have had problems
with people trying to develop commercial enterprises in
residential zones. Anglers Acres, Beaver Creek are
controversial. We have been pushing tourism and the
Bicentennial. We had no motor home parks, we have 3
now, one on Beaver Creek. We need river access.
Cunningham Pk. is expensive and not good for boat
launching, the neighbors object. The City owns 2,100
acres in the area. We may be able to trade.
Public Works Director Kornelis. The alternatives are:
Cunningham Pk. with the Doyle property for parking, the
area below Cone's property (we think this is the best).
The City owns land, Mr. Cone owns the right-of-way. We
could buy or trade for City land.
Mayor Williams. It would be a boat launch and parking,
area, boat berths, concessioner. There would be no
overnight parking. 0
Norval Netsch, AK F&G. What is the current? Mr.
Kornelis. Not bad, it is almost dead at low tide. It
is a 2-way current. It is 7 miles from Cunningham Pk.
to our dock. Mayor Williams. The greatest amount of
fishing is from Eagle Rock to the bluffs.
Mr. Netsch. Dingall/Johnson Act is restricted to
benefit to sports fishing.
Mr. Kornelis. We could put a gravel strip to protect
the banks, about 10 ft. Mayor Williams. We should
arrange an inter -agency meeting regarding how far we
can go.
Mr. Netsch. We will be working on the 1991 budget.
Tom Donek, AK P&G. In the budget, 60% goes to Mat -Su
Borough and Kenai Peninsula, based on usage.
Mr. Kornelis. We are not ready for profit businesses,
would that make a difference? Mr. Donek. We would
want to know the private boat launches on the river.
Where are they and how do they feel? Mayor Williams._
Eagle Rock is the only one. It is to the maximum.
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Mr. Donek. You will have to specify the use of the
road. Mayor Williams. If we build the road, we will
stay under $200,000. We own 36,000 yds. of gravel, we
could force -account.
Engineer LaShot. We will need rest rooms.
Clerk Ruotsala was directed to make an appointment fo:
Chester Cone to meet with Mayor Williams.
Mayor Williams will arrange a meeting with the Corps.
of Engineers for 8-21 in Anchorage, Public Works
Director Kornelis will attend.
Mr. Netsch. If we get a figure, we could set
priorities, see the money we will have for 1991. Funds
would still apply if you change the site. This looks
like a viable project.
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Mr. Donek. Dave Nelson, AK F&G, can come up with use
figures. Mr. Nelson and Kevin Delaney, AK F&G, can get
need statistics.
ADJOURNMENT:
Meeting adjourned at 5:00 PM.
Iet Ruotsala
City Clerk
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