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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-01-20 Council MinutesAGENDA KENAI CITY COUNCIL - REGULAR 14EETING JANUARY 20, 1982 - 7:00 PM PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE A. ROLL CALL 1. Agenda Approval B. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD 1. Ruby Coyle - Public Safety Within the City of Kenai, Parking Lots 6 Roads 2. Alaska 1984 Representative C. PUBLIC HEARINGS 1. Ordinance 747-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Purchase of Station Wagon - $13,000 2. Ordinance 748-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Library Donations - $1,450 3. Ordinance 749-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Library Services for Jail - $2,500 4. Ordinance 750-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Spruce St. - $113,316 S. Ordinance 751-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - lst, 4th & Birch - $1,417,104 6. Ordinance 752-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Forest Dr. Extended & Gill - $393,967 7. Ordinance 753-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - 2nd & 3rd Ste. - $148,595 8. Resolution 82-6 - Transfer of Funds - Lawton, Walker, Tinker, Rogers - $3,000 9. Resolution 82-10 - Approving Sale of Frontage Rd. S/D to Owner of Adjacent Lands 10. Resolution 82-11 - Awarding Contract - Hutchings Chevrolet - Purchase of Jail Station Wagon - $9,542.05 11. Resolution 82-12 - Awarding Contract - Decor Industries - Installation of Carpeting, Police Dept. - $3,040 12. Resolution 82-13 - Award of Contract, Topo Map - USKH - $70,000 13. Renewal of Liquor License - a. Package Store Oaken Keg #58 b. Restaurant/Eating Place Italian Gardens c. Beverage Dispensary Kenai Joe's Rainbow Bar & Grill Sheffield House, Kenai d. Club BPO Elks Lodge #2425 Fraternal Order of Eagles $3525 14. Renewal of Liquor License - a. Beverage Dispensary Harborview Restaurant (HIM Sam Pan Lounge & Restaurant (H/M) b. Flub American Legion Post #20 C. Restaurant/Eating Place Pizza ra:'adisos . ,. D. MINUTES 1. Verbatim Translation, Dec. 1.6, 1981 Rich Kochanuski Jack Nelson 2. Special Meeting, Dec. 17, 1981 3. Special Meet! • Dec. 19, 1981, Dec. 21, 1981 4. Regular Meeting, Jan. 6, 1982 Verbatim Translation, water & Sewer Rates E. CORRESPONDENCE F. OLD BUSINESS 1. Architect Carmen Gintoli - Airport Redesign Schematics 2. Avis Rent-A-Car - Additional Car Space G. NEW BUSINESS 1. Bills to be Paid, Bills to be Ratified 2. Requisitions Exceeding $1,000 3. Ordinance 754-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Topo Map - $70,000 (2nd Reading) 4. Lawton, Tinker, Walker, Rogers - Quality Asphalt Paving - Change Order #lA - $4,000 Change Order #1B - $7,000 5. Architect Carmen Gintoli - Airport Renovation Billing - $9,438 6. Pidalgo - Peninsula Engineering - Pay Est. #7 - $7,274 7. 4th Ave. Sewer - Wince, Corthell & Bryson - Extension of Contract - $2,300 S. Amendment to Agreement - Architect Carmen Gintoli - Airport Renovation 9. Games of Chance & Skill - Kenai Elks Lodge #2425 10. Plat Approval of VIP Ranch Estates, Part 7 - Kenai Growth Investments #3 11. Discussion - Reappropriate Federal Revenue Sharing Money, Public Works Dept. - $14,000 H. REPORTS 1. City Manager 2. City Attorney 3. Mayor 4. City Clerk S. Finance Director 6. Planning & Zoning 7. Harbor Commission I. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD ADJOURNMENT T a v KENAI CITY COUNCIL - REGULAR MEETING, MINUTES JANUARY 20, 1982, 7:00 PM KENAI CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING MAYOR VINCENT O'REILLY PRESIDING PLEDGE Of' ALLEGIANCE A. ROLL CALL Present: Ray Measles, Dick Mueller, Tom Wagoner, John Vie, Vincent O'Reilly, Betty Glick Absent: Ron Malston (excusedi AGENDA APPROVAL 1. Mayor O'Reilly said that Items C-4 and C-5 on the agenda had their 2nd pages reversed. 2. Mayor O'Reilly said that Item C-2 as distributed in the packet was incorrect. Corrected copies had been distributed this date (1-20-82) 3. Mayor O'Reilly said that items G-5 and G-6 are already listed in Item G-1, Bills to be Paid, and can be deleted from the agenda. 4. Mayor O'Reilly said that Public Works Director Kornelis had asked that Resolutions 82-14, 82-15, 82-16 and 82-17 be added on the agenda. Public Works Director Kornelis explained at the Jan. 6, 1982 meeting the ordinances for Capital Improvements Projects were introduced. They are up for adoption at this meeting. He did not get the Resolutions in the packet. He brought them to Council members the week of Jan. 11, 1982. If we don't do them this date, we will have to go back to the contractors for postponement. MOTIONs Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to add Resolutions 82-14, 82-15, 82-16 and 82-17 to the agenda. Councilman Wise asked Public Works Director Kornelis if he had contacted the two prime bidders if they would take an extension. Mr. Kornelis replied no. Councilman Wise objected to the addition. City Manager Brighton asked Mr. Kornelis, they have not solidified their proposals beyond 30 days? Mr. Kornelis concurred, and said that is why he asked for an extension to the 31st. City Manager Brighton asked Mr. Kornelis, if we do not firm up the contract, we will subject ourselves to substantial increases? Mr. Kornelis replied, maybe. Counci?ma.n Wise said when he was contacted he suggested asking for an ex- tension. No effort was made. Councilman Wagoner noted all bids have been made public anyhow. He suggested a special meeting Jan. 22, 1982, and asked Atty. Delahay what would happen if the bids were made public and we go past the date made public, can the low bidder raise their bid? Atty. Delahay replied his bid is not binding. Councilman Wisc withdrew his objection. Motion was approved by unanimous consent. 5. Mayor O'Reilly said the Kenai Chamber of Commerce has asked to submit their application for Games of Chance & Skill as Item G-12. Council agreed to the changes in the agenda. 9 `' KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAW. 20, 1982 Page 2 B. PUBLIC HEARINGS B-1 Ruby Coyle - Public Safety Within the City of Kenai, Parking Lots & Roads Mrs. Coyle noted there was a discussion regarding safety on KSRM, Sornd-Off program recently. She has discussed in the pact an alternate route around the City. She is aware the State has to put stop lights in, but she believes we should join forces to petition the State for a stop light where Beaver Loop crossed the Highway. We should not wait till someone is killed. We also need a traffic light at the other end of town. The 35 MPH speed limit should be moved beyond Walker Lane. Also, the street corners are not being sanded enough. The Fire Dept. area is one. Another factor is the height of the snow berms. There are places where you cannot see at the corners. Another problem is in front of Carr's store. Everyone says someone else is responsible. She thinks it can be worked out with Carr's. Councilman Wagoner suggested City Manager Brighton write to our Legislators to work with Dept. of Highways for additional lights. He noted we have hats 5 studies he knows of, they just do another study. Police Chief Ross said every year his dept. is in correspondence with the State on all traffic problems. The State is considering moving the speed limit to Walker Lane. The traffic lights are a problem. Tractor trailers at the intersection of Spur have to go into 2 lanes to turn. Money has been requested in the 1984 budget for a study. The Carr's parking lot problem is a philosophical and political decision that should be made by Council. It is on private property. Anchorage has accepted this responsibility. The schools, apartments, and businesses enforce their own parking lots. Councilwoman Glick noted they had many meetings a while ago and agreed not to interfere with private business. Mayor O'Reilly asked if Willow & Spur was a problem with the semis. Chief Ross replied no, they use alternate routes. He added we have had studies on all major turns in the City for traffic lights. MOTIONS Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, that a message be directed to DOT to accelerate corrective measures necessary. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. B-2 Alaska 1984 Representative Rod Pfleuger and Jim Sharp. Rod Pfleuger explained he is the fund raiser, Jim Sharp is the controller. He said Alaska 1984 was originally doveloped to ask for the World's Fair. In 1981 it was proposed as a Silver Anniversary for Alaska. Their intent is to have proposals approved by July 1. They would like to get all communities involved. Kenai has been appropriated $2,000. Jim Sharp explained they will need the extent of parti- cipation by Feb. 22, 1982. They will work with the cities during time of preparation. Mr. Pfleuger said they had anticipated the contract being signed by October, but it was approved last week (1-11-82). It still has to be brought tc the Legislature. Councilman Wagoner asked, who is on the State Committee? tor. Sharp replied: Bob Richards, Art Kennedy, Joe Scott, Steve silver, Pat Kay. Councilman Wagoner u.; KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 3 asked, how many communities have been allocated, and how much? Mr. Sharp replied the total allo-cation is $200,000, allocations are based on interest demonstrated by groups. There is no absolute allocation. Council- man Wagoner noted Governor Hammond has stated that he is in favor of Alaska 1984 projects be on the ballot. It is an ambitious project and there is not enough time. If projects are as massive as indicated, there are not enough contractors in Alaska for that. Mr. Sharp said putting on the ballot would destroy the intent on getting it done by 1984. Any requirements for facilities would be worked in with State planned appropriations. It is not their plan to build any new buildings. Councilwoman Glick asked if there were any other communities in other areas allocated funds. Mr. Sharp replied they have an office in Fairbanks coordinating the effort up there. tar. Pflueger said Alaska 1984 can take the form of a program or project or both. They are asking the Kenai community what is best needed for Kenai. The Central Committee will solidify and coordinate. Councilwoman Glick asked if they had a target date for 1984. Mr. Pflueger replied that is still being considered. They would like to extend the tourist season front and back. They would like it to start Jan. 3, 1984, that is when we became a State. Mayor O'Reilly asked, has there been any definition on the project, what is local and what is State share? Mr. Sharp replied, it is still being determined. Council- man Wise suggested oil is our central industry. The emphasis should be on promotional of courses in petroleum industry at the Community College. The industry has influence on the State and the Greater Kenai area. Mayor O'Reilly noted Council did pass a Resolution supporting the effort and appointing a committee. Ile has withheld appointing till he finds out how Council feels about this. Councilman Measles asked, what if we form a task force and they decide Kenai does not want to get involved? Mr. Sharp replied, the City has no liability as far as the 02,000 is concerned. Mayor O'Reilly said the Task Force would have to be completed by Feb. 17, 1982 to present to Council. Councilwoman Glick suggested Planning & Zoning Commission take on the responsi- bilities, the Commission is already in place. Mayor O'Reilly added, at least do the 1st part of the task and publish for public input. Then we could get the commission started. Councilman wagoner said he is against the whole process, it is a waste of time and money. MOTION: Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to formalize Planning 6 Zoning Commission be delegated the task force responsible in dealing with Alaska 1984 responsibilities. Motion passed, with Councilman Wagoner voting no. Councilman Wise asked, do we have official notification of the $2,000 grant? Mr. Sharp replied it will be t in the mail tomorrow, officially this is notification. Finance Director Brown said he would draft an approp- riating ordinance for the next meeting. C. PUBLIC HEARINGS C-1 Ordinance 747-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Purchase of Station Wagon - $13,000 KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 4 MOTIt.�D1: Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to adopt the ordinance. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-2 Ordinance 748-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Library Donations - $1,450 MOTIONS Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to adopt the ordinance. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-3 Ordinance 749-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Library Service for Jail - $2,500 MOTIONS Councilman Mueller moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to adopt the ordinance. There was no public comment. Councilman Wise asked, do we expect to have this service in next year's budget? Librarian Deforest replied, if this is not provided by the State, she will not ask for it. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-4 Ordinance 750-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Spru" St. - $113,318 MOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Wagoner, to adopt the ordinance, changing the title block, line 3, the word "by" to "to." Finance Director Brown explained in this ordinance it does not matter. But his intent was to keep the ordinances "by." Using the word "to" changes the total amount of money allocated. MOTION, Amendments Councilwoman Glick, with consent of second, moved to adopt the ordinance as submitted. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-5 Ordinance 751-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - 1st, 4th, & Birch - $1,417,104 MOTIONS Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to adopt the ordinance. e, 7 i � - I IKENAI CITY COUNC I L JAN. 20, 1982 Page 5 There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-6 Ordinance 752-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Forest Dr. Extended & Gill - $393,967 MOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to adopt the ordinance. There was no public comment. Councilman wise said he felt the project will prob ? impede drainage in Redoubt area. �l Motion passed, with Councilman wise voting no. C-7 Ordinance 753-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - 2nd & 3rd Sts. - $148,595 MOTIONS - Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to adopt the ordinance. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-8 Resolution 82-6 - Transfer of Funds - Lawton, Walker, Tinker, Rogers - $3,000 MOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman =.. - Measles, to adopt the resolution. PUBLIC COMMENTS ,,. John Williams asked, does it relate to item G-4 on the agenda? Public Works Director Kornelis replied, yes, it is a transfer of funds to cover the change order. Mr. Williams asked Council to alter the agenda -= to discuss this item with Item G-4. �J MOTIONS _ Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman r>_' Measles, to postpone any action on item C-8 to item G-4. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. ^� C-9 Resolution 82-10 - Approving Sale of Frontage Rd. SID to Owner of Adjacent Lands p` N MOTIONS 7 Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to adopt the resolution. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. s KENAI CITY COUNCIL '1 JAN. 20, 1992 Page 6 C-10 Resolution 82-11 - Awarding Contract - Hutchings Chevrolet - Purchase of Jail Station Wagon - $9,542.05 MOTION-. Councilman Mueller moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to adopt the resolution. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote: C-11 Resolution 82-12 - Awarding Contract - Decor Industries - Installation of Carpeting, Police Dept. - $3,040 MOTION: Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman. Glick, to adopt the resolution. There was no public comment. �J notion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-12 Resolution 82-13 - Award of Contract, Topo Map - f' USKH - $70,000 MOTIONS „-Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman a Measles, to adopt the resolution. f' f There was no public comment. Councilman Mueller asked, does this cover the remainder of the City that has not been previously mapped? Public Works Director Kornelis replied yes, all usable land. Councilman Wise asked, when is the completion date? , City Engineer LaShot replied they said they could be done in 2 months. Councilman wise asked, will this fti impede the drainage study? Mr. LaShot replied, the people he talked to said it would be good to have. If we did not go with USKH it would delay it. we } could start in some areas, but could not finish. - Councilman wise said this City needs a drainage f --- study and has needed it for a number of years. f Finance Director Brown noted ord. 754-82 appropriates money and calls for a 2nd reading. tie suggested the resolution should be voted on after the crdinance is voted on. MOTIONS f f _ Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to postpone action on the resolution till after item G-3. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-13 Renewal of Liquor License - a. Package Store Oaken Keg #58 b. Restaurant/Eating Place Italian Gardens C. Beverage Dispensary Kenai Joe's Rainbow Bar & Grill Sheffield House; Kenai d. Club BPO Elks Lodge #2425 Fraternal Order of Eagles #3525 ��� - -—..-.._�-•--r5.._-. �.�Fam- mom,=-- - . - " — -- _... _ KENAI CITY COUNIr,L JAN. 20, 1982 Page 7 .t - Clerk Whelan reported Oaken Keg, Italian Gardens, Sheffield House, Elks & Eagles are okay. Kenai Joe's has not filed in 1991. Rainbow is yedra I L,_hind in. real & personal property tax, Lhey had agreed to pay the $16,000 sales tax due on a contract with the Borough and are behind on that. f� MOTION.- f Councilman Measlf:s moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to send a letter of non -objection to ABC on all applicants but Kenai Joe's and Rainbow. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. MOTIONs ! Councilman Mueller moved, seconded by Councilman Wagoner, to send a letter of objection to ABC regarding Kenai Joe's and Rainbow. l ; Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. i - ` C-14 Renewal of Liquor License - a. Beverage Dispensary Harborview Restaurant (H/M) Sam Pan Lounge & Restaurant (H/M) b. Cl !.b American Legion Post #20 c. Restaurant/Eating Place !� Pizza Paradisos ! Clerk Whelan reported Harborview, Pizza Paradisos were okay. Sam Pan has a small penalty due, but there has been no filing from July to November of 1for 981. 98 1The American Legion has not filed at all 1. MOTION*. Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Wise, to send a letter of non -objection to ABC o i on. Harborview and Pizza Paradisos. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. f MOTION: �T Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to send a letter of objection to ABC regarding Sam Pan and the American Legion. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. Resolution 82-14 - Awarding Contract, 3rd & 2nd Avenues Road Improvements to Quality Asphalt Paving �4 N MOTION: Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to adopt the resolution. _ There was no public comment. , I'll ij Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. rp KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 8 Resolution 82-19 - Awarding Contract, Spruce Street Road improvements to Quality Asphalt Paving MOTION: Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to adopt the resolution. Councilman Wise asked if Doyle's filed an objection awarding the bid. They have not been notified. Public Works Director Kornelis replied no objections have been received, they have been notified. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. Resolution 82-16 - Awarding Contract, lot, Birch, 4th Ave. Road improvements to Quality Asphalt Paving MOTIONS Councilman Mueller moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to adopt the resolution. There was no public comment. Nation passed unanimously by roll call vote. Resolution 82-17 - Awarding Contract, Forest Drive Ex- tended, Gill St. Road Improvements to Harley's Trking. MOTION: Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to adopt the resolution, amending the 2nd WHEREAS, line 2, change "Quality Asphalt Paving" to "Harley's Trucking;" and the 3rd WHEREAS, line 1, change "Quality Asphalt Paving" to "Harley's Trucking." There was no public comment. Motion passed, with Councilman wise voting no. D. MINUTES D-1 Verbatim Translation, Dec. 16, 1981 Rich Kochanuski Jack Nelson Minutes were accepted as submitted. D-2 Special Meeting, Dec. 17, 1981 Minutes were accepted as submitted. D-3 Special Meeting, Dec. 19, 1981, Dec. 21, 1981 Clerk Whelan said Public Works Director Kornelis had requested page 1, item B, paragraph 3, line 10, the words, "on the first page" be added after the word "items," with Mayor O'Reilly's concurrence. Mayor O'Reilly agreed to the change. Minutes were accepted as changed. D-4 Regular Meeting, Jan. 6, 1982 Councilman Wagoner said that page 14, line 1, Ise KENAI CITY COMCIL JAM. 20, 1982 Page 9 was not the speaker, that was Councilman Malston. Councilman Mueller said page 6, item C-11, discussion paragraph, line 14, the sentence beginning "Council- man Mueller---" be deleted; and add, "City Manager Brighton said it could be 10%. Councilman Mueller agreed. It was 25S in one area." Councilman Mueller said page 10, paragraph 2, line 2, the $10 Million figure should be $1 Million. Minutes were approved as changed and corrected. Verbatim Translation, water 6 Sewer Rates M:.nutes were approved as submitted. E. CORRESPONDEXCE None P. OLD BUSINESS p-1 Architect Carmen Gintoli - Airport Redesign Schematics Mr. Gintoli said he met with City Manager Brighton and Airport Manager Swalley, made the changes, and is submitting it to Council. They have changed the baggage claim area, changed the toilets, moved the auto rental area, moved the airport manager's office, and put the exit in the old place. The toilet addition in the lounge can be in or an added alternate. Total square footage of the new construction is 0460 sq. ft., remodeled (including renovation of the toilets) is 7480 sq. ft. New construction is $1,057,500, renovation is $561,000, for a total of $1,618,500, plus 10% contingency is $1,780,500. That does not include architect and engineering fees. Councilman Mueller suggested, regarding the sewer line problem, we should make sure there is a problem, if there is, make sure a now one is put in. Mr. Gintoli said a grease trap should be put in the kitchen. Mayor O'Reilly asked Mr. Gintoli, what was the construction sequence? Mr. Gintoli replied, renovate the old City Hall area lot, add new construction as phaso 1, move the people from the old area and revovate the old portion. That will be 2 projects and will be some added cost. There will be access to the rest- aurant. Mayor O'Reilly asked, is he looking at a 1982 start-up? Mr. Gintoli replied, it could be out to bid in June or July. There was some discussion on the baggage area. Mr. Gintoli said if more than one flight is in at one time, they would have to wait. He would check with the consultant about the capacity at the reduced rate. Dave Diamond, SouthCentral Air, spoke. He asked if it was still the intent to split the baggage belt between carriers. Mr. Gintoli replied, yes, the cost will be divided, the belt will also be divided. Mr. Diamond asked what is the parking situation with jets and commuters to the South? Mr. Gintoli replied it is basically scheme 2. Mr. Diamond asked, what is the general air freight situation? :a it put in or taken out? If there is not general air freight in the terminal, can we use over-the-counter? Is the idea to take all general cargo out of the airport? Mr. Gintoli replied yes. 2:r -y ----- - - - -� _ - - -- KENAI CITY COU2JCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 10 Wayne Stephens, Wien Air Alaska, spoke. He asked, what is the baggage area? Mr. Gintoli replied about 25 feet. tor. Stephens said he had no objection at this point, particularly with the 2-phase system. Councilman Wagoner noted the baggage area is a large area, could that be used for freight? Airport Manager Swalley replied the excess space is for users' opera- ting equip. There was some discussion on freight facilities. Mayor O'Reilly suggested Airport Manager Swalley develop guidelines on less -than -bulk freight and come back to Council. Council agreed to the suggestion. Mr. Gintoli said his next step was to meet with the users. Councilman Wise said the incomin? baggage area is too small. There would be further problems with any growth. Wayne Stephens, Wien Air Alaska, said most small carrier passengers have carry -on luggage, it is not a severe problem. lair. Gintoli said he would discuss this with the consultant. John Williams spoke. He asked, what is the status of the FAA upstairs? If they are not going to be there, we could put some offices upstairs. Mr. Gintoli replied he would assume they were going to stay, they are changing their equipment now. Councilman Wise said the flight service station is there to operate approaches when the tower is closed. P-2 Avis Rent-A-Car - Additional Car Space Councilman Mueller said he had no problem with Air- port Manager Swalley's recommendation. If we allow spaces for all car rentals, we will have no space for the public. The best way is to handle is with money. Councilman Wise suggested we should have an updated plan of the parking area. There is still bond money for this project. Councilman Wagoner suggested we accept these recommendations with the knowledge of the problem. That is up to the airport manager, to work out the problems. Councilman Mueller said before we make any long time plans, we should wait till the new building is done. Council- woman Glick asked Public Works Director Kornelis, haven't we addressed this problem? Mr. Kornelis replied, there was a series of drawings presented to Council. We have been following the plan but we do not have gravel in yet. They have been using the street crews on a time available basis. Council- woman Glick asked Mr. Kornelis to have the drawings available for the next Council meeting (Feb. 5, 1982). NOTION s Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to accept Airport Manager Swalley's recommend- ation on a temporary basis till a complete redesign of the airport parking plan is completed. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G. NEW BUSINESS G-1 Hills to be Paid, Bills ;:o be Ratified MOTION: Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to approve the bills as submitted. S a KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 11 MOTION, Amendment: Councilman Wise moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to amend the motion to exclude Peninsula Engineering and consider that separately. Councilwoman Glick noted Clean night Janitorial is doing the terminal. Have they or are they clean- ing the sidewalks? Also, the rubber mat inside should be cleaned. She added, the ice by the door at the City Hall is done, how about the rest of the sidewalks? City Manager Brighton said he would handle it. VOTE, with Amendments Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G-1 Peninsula Engineering Bill MOTION., Councilman Wise moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to approve payment of Peninsula Engineering. Councilman Wise asked Public Works Director Kornelis, regarding his letter dated Jan. 13, 1982, did the engineer perform in accordance with the contract? Mr. Kornelis replied, regarding the over -run on the excavating, he thought the engineer just made an error in calculations. With the correct amount, Quality would still be the low bidder. He noted, no matter how much it changes, we will have to pay. All these change orders have been approved. Council- man Wagoner said he made a professional mistake, we should not pay another nickle. Mr. Kornelis said he was relieved of inspection duties, but not of testing and surveying. He didn't recommend paying statement V. Mayor O'Reilly asked, what happens if we do not pay the bill? There was no reply. Motion failed, with Councilman Mueller voting yes. G-2 Requisitions Exceeding $1,000 MOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to approve the requisitions. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G-3 Ord{.nance 754-82 - Increasing Rev/Appns - Topo Map - 070,000 (2nd Reading) NOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to introduce the ordinance. Councilman wise said he was still concerned with the implication that this will delay the drainage study. He granted this topo mapping needs to be done, and we will get the best price from this firm, but the implication that one hangs on the other is un- acceptable to him. City Engineer La3hot explained he was told we were to have a drainage study on the entire city. We need the rest of the to,vo study to complete the work. They said they can complete it in 2 months. We have gone out for letters of interest on the drainage study. We will have a Public Works Committee meeting when Councilman i M • KENAI CITY COUNCIL -- JAN. 20, 1982 ` Page 12 Malston returns. Councilman wise said he objects - to tieing the drainage study to the topo study. City Manager Brighton explained it was already noted the drainage study could proceed without the topo study. It has now proceeded to the point where the topo study can be reviewer: by the Public - Works Committee. There is no intent to delay the drainage study. Councilman Wagoner said we don't need a drainage study, we are wasting our time. Councilman Wise said it was his understanding Ad- ministration was sending out letters of interest. But it is a request for proposal without description of how it will be funded. Councilman Wagoner said he made a motion as to how letters would be sent out. He asked for fixed price proposals. Then we would go to 4 or 5 and ask for a fixed price bid. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. MOTION, 2nd Readings Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to have the 2nd reading this date. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. o } MOTION, Adoptions Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman x Glick, to adopt the ordinance. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. C-12 Resolution 82-13 - Award of Contract, Topo Map - USKH - $70,000 _= Motion had already been made for approval. i, There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. °! G-4 Lawton, Tinker, Walker, Rogers - Quality V Asphalt Paving - �� Change Order #lA - ($41000)j Change Order #iB - $7,000 L MOTIONS Councilman Mueller moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to approve the change orders. �. jCouncilwoman Glick noted this was tabled from the last meeting. MOTION, Amendments Councilman. L:ueller, with consent of second, moved .; to bring it back from the table. City Manager Brighton reviewed the action. John Williams had asked for a 2" water line, instead of the 3/4" line being used, because his intention was to build a 4-plex on his property. Mr. Brighton felt that on the rationale that Council had elimi- ={ r nated water & sewer fees with the intent of helping people build inside the City, a 4-plex will prey 4 times what a single dwelling would pay for water bills and sewer lines, construction would be higher ti • KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 13 than a single and would produce higher taxes, he requested this change order. John Williams spoke. ht: said what we have is an attempt to add something to an understanding that was in there origin4lly. The City is attempting to back -charge for extras. Mr. Williams passed out a letter supporting his request. He stated one of his concerns is the stated cost of $3,000 above the original cost. He also noted he had asked for larger lines for a 6-plex rather than a 4-plex. The dollar difference is $590. At the July 1981 meeting with the engineers, they said it would not cost them anything. He asked for the additional size at that time. The reason it was not put in the contract was because the engineer did not give it to the contractor. He noted this is not his problem. The potential for 6-plexes is there, even with a 2 year moratorium. It is zoned for that. He asked the Council to consider this testimony and not ask him to pay an extra $3,000. Councilman Wise said the oversize lines should not be put in, the standard service provided was approp- riate. He had no objection to a private investor paying for extra size. we are going to pay for speculation if we do this. Councilman Wagoner asked Public Works Director Kornelis, when the City devel- oped Fidalgo, etc. there is a potential for commer- cial buildings there. What size line did he put in? Mr. Kornelis replied commercial buildings would not necessarily be larger than a 6-plex. The majority are 3/4" to 111. Councilman Wagoner said there are exceptions to the rule when the City puts in different sizes. We should go back to all who have gotten exceptions in the past. Councilman Mueller said he has no problem as long as improvements stop at the City line, or if it means a change in zoning he would have a problem with it. Councilman Wagoner said if we don't do it now, the straet will have to be pulled up to do it later. Mr. Williams said he has already paid water & sewer rates, the only con- sideration is to bring it to the property. Council- woman Glick said we are providing basic services, any- thing above should be billed. Councilman Wise said it would appear everyone should get a larger line in case they want a larger building, that is not right. City Manager Brighton said this would not be in front of the Council had it been handled as it has in the past. It would already be included. The only reason the City is not paying for this is because there was a lack of communications on this one. VOTE, Change Orders Motion passed with Councilwoman Glick voting no. C-8 Resolution 82-6 - Transfer of Funds - Lawton, Walker, Tinker, Rogers - $3,000 MOTION: Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to adopt the .resolution. There was no public comment. Motion passcd with Councilwoman Glick voting no. G-7 4th Ave. Sewer - Wince, Corthell & Bryson - Extension of Contract - $2,300 KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAH. 20, 1982 Page 14 MOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to approve the billing. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G-8 Amendment to Agreement - Architect Carmen Gintoli - Airport Renovation MOTION: Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to approve the amendment. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G-9 Games of Chance & Skill - Kenai Elks Lodge #2425 MOTION: e Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to approve the application. Motion passed by unanimous consent. G-10 Plat Approval of VIP Ranch Estates, Part 7 - Kenai Growth Investments #3 Atty. Delahay reviewed the memo. MOTION: Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to direct Administration to proceed according to Atty. Delahay's recommendations. Councilwoman Glick noted this was approved by Planning & Zoning Commission. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G-11 Discussion - Reappropriate Federal Revenue Sharing Money, Public Works Dept. - $14,000 Councilman Wagoner said first, we were talked into this large compressor, now we don't need it, and we can lease it. Second, no matter what condition of the lathe, there is no warranty. It is not good practice to buy without a warranty. Also, why dog:s the City need a lathe? City Engineer LaShot said they would use the lathe to get pins for trailers, they are hard to get. As for the condition, he had looks:; at it and it looked _good. With the additional parts, it is a good buy. Councilman Wagoner said you can't tell by looking at it if it is good or not. They should order a stock of pins if needed. Also, to convert the old crash track to a sander is a waste of the truck. It could be used in another community and we could get some money out of it. MOTION: Councilman Wise moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to table action on this item. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. G-12 Games of Chance & Skill - Kenai Chamber of Commerce W KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 15 MOTION: Councilman Measles moved; seconded by Councilman 'yeller, to approve the application. Motion passed by unanimous consent. H. REPORTS H-1 City Manager City Manager Brighton spoke. 1. Regarding the land fill. He talked to a DEC representative, who said Mayor O'Reilly had talked to him prior to renewal and asked for a short term renewal, on the basis on Section 36. Councilman Wise said he had asked Clerk Whelan to contact DEC and thay had said it was renewed for 5 years. Mr. Brighton said when he talked to Bob Martin on Jan. 15, 1982, he had said he would check. Mr. Martin had suggested that if the Borough turns over Planning & Zoning that we would have rights in Planning & Zoning as far as restrictions are concerned. Mr. Brighton addeds a. The land fill is a disgrace. b. It is in high priced area. ^ �= Councilman wise requested Administration contact DEC =� and formally protest the 5 year extension. Council agreed to the request. 2. A motion approved by the Harbor Commission to recommend to Council that the CH2M Hill contract with the small boat harbor be cancelled. Vote was unanimous. MOTIONS Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, to direct Administration to write a letter to CH2M Hill informing them we are giving 30 day notice as per the contract. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. 3. The Harbor commission had made a motion for Council to direct Administration to have a meet- ing with Nortec to discuss the sedimentation study with Council & Harbor Commisison. The vote was unanimous. MOTIONS ]] Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Wagoner, to direct Administration to proceed to contact Nortec inviting them to a meeting with Nortec representatives, the Harbor Commission, Council, and Planning & Zoning - if they wish. ,. Motion passed by unanimous consent. ' 4. The Harbor Commission made a motion to recommend Council submit a counter proposal to Bob Roper for repurchase of leases in the area of the -' small boat harbor for $100,000. This vote was not unanimous. I R -- - i j - "As KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1992 Page 16 MOTION: Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilwoman Glick, to submit a counter proposal to Bob Roper for repurchase of leases in the area of the small boat harbor for $65,000. Councilwoman Glick said there was good logic used on the $100,000 figure. But before we do any pur- chasing, we still need to know what we are going to do with it. We would be in the real estate business if we buy them back. She cannot approve of buying back the leases. Councilman Mueller said the City can afford to be in the land business for waterfront and heavy industry lands in that area. It might be better if the City kept them in control. MOTION, Amendment: Councilman Mueller moved to change the amount to $100,000. Motion failed for lack of a second. Councilman Wagoner noted the whole thing is nego- tiable, if passed, Administration can go to Mr. Roper and negotiate. Councilman Wise said he would abstain, he has had dealings with Mr. Roper in the past. Motion failed, with Councilman Wagoner voting yes; Councilmen Measles, Mueller, Mayor O'Reilly, Council- woman Glick voting no; Councilman Wise abstaining. MOTIONS Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, to amend the amount to $100,000. Mayor O'Reilly said, if this passes, Council should direct Administration to make a time limit to have it exercised. Motion passed, with Councilmen Mueller, Wagoner, Mayor O'Reilly voting yes; Councilman Measles, Councilwoman Glick voting no; Councilman Wise abstaining. 5. Regarding the breathing air system as included in the packet. Mr. Brighton suggested Council direct Administration to sell to the highest bidder. MOTION: Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilwoman Click, to sell the surplus breathing air system to the highest bidder. Councilman "7goner noted 50% of the item is owned by Kenai Peninsula Community College. The reason the college went along was to have air bottles filled for college courses. Now it is done by a private company. MOTION, Amendment: Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Wise, to amend the motion that 50% of the proceeds be given to Kenai Peninsula Community College in recognition that they paid 50% of original cost. KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 17 VOTE, Motion with Amendment: Motion as amended passed by unanimous consent. 6. Mr. Brighton said he, Atty. Delahay, City Engineer LaShot, and Senior Citizen Coordinator Porter met with FAA regarding the Senior Citizen Center location. They discussed contract of sale to the lessees. The leased lands are only eligible for lease, they are are all being worked on and should all be handled satis- factorily. 7. A representative of the Dale Carnegie course spoke to Mr. Brighton and some members of the Council regarding a proposed program in Feb. Mr. Brighton was asked to bring up the proposal to Council for City involvement. Mayor O'Reilly noted the City participated last time it was here. Councilwoman Glick said this is aimed at marketing and sales. Mr. Brighton replied there are 2 thrusts, one is sales and the other is a regular course. Councilman Wagoner said this is an Administrative determination, doesn't the City have a policy on education? Finance Director Brown explained there is a section in the Code, but it has to relate to the job. Councilman Wagoner said we should not deviate from that policy, if it fits, let them take it, other- wise - no. Mayor O'Reilly suggested Council wait till Councilman Malston is here, he is knowledgeable on the subject. Atty. Delahay reviewed the Code regarding employee courses. Council agreed to follow the Code. S. Mr. Brighton reviewed a leeter from C&RA to Borough Mayor Thompson, informing him that the only fundable CZM project in this fiscal year is the Homer Spit program. The Adminis- trative grant we are looking for is not avail- able, or for the Borough effort. They suggested it might be available next fiscal year. Mr. Brighton has spoken to Jeff Labahn (Borough Planning) and we will request so it will be there at next fiscal year. Councilwoman Glick asked City Manager Brighton, what is the status of violations on zoning codes? She noted one man quit and one man has rezoned his pro- perty. Mr. Brighton replied the others are still in violation. He didn't think another letter will get them in compliance. He felt the Atty. would have to start proceedings. Councilwoman Glick said we have tried to get places cleaned up in the past and then stopped action. We should enforce or reveal zhe ordinance. Councilman Wagoner said we should follow up since some have complied. We should treat every- body the same. MOTION: Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Mueller, that legal proceedings be started. Councilman Wagoner said he would want to see the cases first. City Manager Brighton noted that with the motion, that is what the Atty. is charged with. If legal action is justified, he would pursue it. Atty. Delahay said he would report to Council on those not justifiable for legal action. KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 18 VOTE: Motion passed r;mously by roll call vote. Councilwoman Glick asked City Manager Brighton, is all the space being leased by individuals in the airport terminal being utilized? Mr. Brighton replied, no, there is one area being used by Wien that is not under contract. Councilwoman Glick suggested Admin- istration be directed to prepare a lease for that space back to when it started to be utilized and bring it back to Council. Council agreed to the suggestiosi. H-2 Attorney Atty. Delahay spoke. 1. He will need a temporary hire while his secretary is on leave for 9 weeks. This comes when the Administrative Assistant will be busy with lease renewals. It might exceed his budget and he may have to come back for a supplemental appropriation. Councilman Wagoner said you will probably not pay at the same rate as the present secretary. Atty. Delahay replied, there will be an overlap. He didn't think it will be, but he wanted to advise Council. 2. Regarding Borough Ord. 81-2 (Planning & Zoning) , the Borou IciUpassed the ordinance. They said one eta�^"��r`D`� section is ambiguous, they asked that the Borough delete one paragraph. Atty. Delahay didn't think the Borough would, but they may change the wording. Atty. Delahay will meet with the Borough Attorney and Borough Mayor and lhave ask iv an administrative amendment prepared. Council agreed to the action. Atty. Delahay noted this does not come up till Feb. 16, 1982. He added, regarding the portion of returning powers. He would like to propose having that changed. Council agreed to the action. 3. Atty. Delahay noted HB 655 regarding smoking in public places was up for consideration this session. 4. Regarding the sand & gravel pits. 4 permits were at Planning & Zoning for the City. Prior to the meeting, Cook Inlet Region Inc. told the City the sand belongs to them and they will sell it to the City. In another similar case, the case was dependent on the Native Claims Act. The Native Claims Act was not dependent here, this was before the Native (.!aims Act was cone. Atty. Delahay feels this might be questionable but we have a good case. He suggests we hire special counsel and go to the Supreme Court if necessary. Their attorney is still checking into it. 5. Regarding the FAA meeting with Howard Smith, City Manager Brighton reviewed this and asked for paths along Ryan Creek. Mr. Smith suggested all the area near by be acquired for Parks & Recreation. KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN.20, 1982 Page 19 6. Atty. Delahay will be in Juneau during the Feb. 3 meeting. H-3 Mayor Mayor O'Reilly spoke. 1. He noted his report distributed this date (1-20-82) on his trip to Juneau. On the Capital Improvement Projects, the Governor has proposed a 2 year, $600 Million budget. There is nothing for Kenai. There is concern on the part of local legislators. The question is, does the State have the res- ponsibility to fund their own capital improvement projects or should there be a balance between Ll State and local projects? He thought nothing would happen till the Hohman case is settled. Councilman Wise asked if Homer got their funds. Mayor O'Reilly replied they received their funds for final stages. Councilman Wise said Homer had requested the Governor put this in the budget some months ago. Had the City put their act to- gether they might have gotten their requests. City Manager Brighton noted their request was for $20 Million, they got $4 Million. Council- man Wagoner added the Homer project was requested some years ago. The Governor has been supportive j because of the relationship to fisheries marketing to Japan. Councilman Wagoner asked Mayor O'Reilly, what is the status of the $250 per capita? Mayor O'Reilly .. replied that has been authorized and appropriated, =` but he pointed out when State Administration re- ceives a request they send back a letter that it is in doubt. Sen. Dankworth said it should be available by July 1, 1982. f Councilman Wise said, regarding the DOT transpor- tation plan. Kenai has not followed through on the airport master plan and put in for DOT trans- portation funds. We might have gotten them if we had asked for it. City Manager Brighton replied ' Public Works Director Kornelis and he met with _ DOT. One of the items the y suggested was airport. They were informed it was a municipal airport and not eligible for State funds. They suggested we -- could ask for it, but there was a slim chance. Mayor O'Reilly said the Capital Improvement Projects the Governor has cone up with are for State projects. Also, the Municipal Assistance Fund has a formula change. Sen. Dankworth has suggested a change from 10% to 30%, suggested blending of Municipal Assistance and Revenue Sharing. Mayor O'Reilly said his thinking is, let's tie down how Municipal Assistance and Revenue Sharing will be first and then start working on a new approach to the State and L. kj municipalities. 2. Mayor O'Reilly will be at a meeting with the i' Conference of Mayors Feb. 3 & 4, 1982, and �. will also attend a CZM meeting. This will be paid for by Coastal Zone Management. 3. All legislators he has spoken to have compli- mented the City on their actions on the Capital l Improvement Projects and on the brochure. We have received 3 letters on the brochure. 6 T KENAI CITY COUNrIL JAN. 2J, 1982 Page 20 1 4. Mayor O'Reilly asked Council if they agreed with him on his thinking on emphasizing State and Municipal needs and then working on Muni- cipal requests? Council agreed to the suggestion. Mayor O'Reilly noted we are faced with declining revenues from the State. City Manager Brighton said if the Governor's budget stands, he has out-finnessed all the Legislature. The Legislators felt the Governor has thrown the gauntlet and they will take it up. The real fight will be between the Governor and the Leg- islators. Mayor O'Reilly added, keep in mind full Revenue Sharing and full Municipal Assistance have been funded. H-4 City Clerk None i H-5 Finance Director jFinance Director Brown spoke. Mr. Brown said he passed out a consumer price index this date (1-20-82), the budget has been started by Dept. heads. We are going to have to look at the - cost of living increase. He would like to see a work session before the next meeting. MOTION: -- Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman Wise, to ask Administration to prepare a budget based on this year's mill levy and an increase of not more that 7%: 4-1/2% cost of living increase 2-1/2% merit increase Councilwoman Glick said the reason she came up with that figure is nationwide a number of concerns are staying static or making small increases. Given the status of the anticipated increase, that is just starting. Councilman Wagoner said, that being the case, maybe Council should have a work session and come up with something definitiv.,-. City Manager Brighton noted if Council passes that motion, there is no need for work sessions. Chief Ross spoke regarding the merit increases. Last year there were 5 people in his dept. who did not get merit increases because of the time employed. It is not automatic. Councilwoman Glick said generally, as overall action, everybody gets a merit raise. Most of the time, it is considered a basic thing. Chief Ross said then he would suggest it be called a longevity raise. He thinks the merit system is an effective system, it is a tool he would not like to lose. Councilman Wagoner noted there are those that use the merit system correctly and some do not. This casts dissension among employees. City Manager Brighton noted there are 4 or 5 employees who do not get merit raises because of the length of time they have been here. Councilwoman Glick asked if she should delete the 4-1/2% and 2-1/2% portion of the motion? Councilman Wise said the motion .is pro- viding an across-the-board pay increase and will consider the merit increase effective July 1, 1982 for budgetary purposes. Councilwoman Glick said she l s a KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 21 VOTE: would let her motion stand. .•IVt1UIl tailed, with Councilmen Measles, wise, council- woman Glick voting yes; Councilmen Mueller, Wagoner, Mayor O'Reilly voting no. Councilwoman Glick asked Finance Director Brown, why did the City increase the minimum on Bills to be Paid on the agenda, from $500 to $1,000? Finance Director Brown replied, inflation had brought up the costs. Councilwoman Glick asked, to help expedite the daily business of the City? Mr. Brown replied yes. Council- woman Glick said she did not think the purpose was to circumvent Council knowledge of City actions. Back in April a comment was made that a bill was for $600 and if they waited till a certain date City Manager Brighton would not have to come to Council. That distresses her. She heard it again last week. The sum was $300, but it had extenuating circumstances. She did not care where the money was coming from. Councilman Wagoner said we passed the budget, we have already authorized use of the funds. The appraisal does not commit us to future use of funds. Also, City Manager Brighton had been asked if he had gotten an appraisal of the Coyle property many times. Council- man Mueller said ordering an appraisal does not consti- tute a commitment. Councilwoman Glick said when you start spending money that may have further commitments, Council should be notified. Waldo Coyle spoke. He said that property has not been offered for sale, it will not be offered for sale. Ruby Coyle spoke. She said the property is not for sale to the City. Councilwoman Glick said it is inadvertent that it was Coyle property. Whatever the property is, Council should be notified. H-6 Planning & Zoning Councilwoman Glick spoke. 1. The gravel pits were approved, as was reported by City Manager Brighton. 2. Atty. Delahay has already discussed Borough Ord. 81-z. 3. There was an airport lease application on lots to be developed. Airport Manager Swalley will work with these people for development plans. 4. A preliminary was submitted for Cook Inlet In- dustrial Air Park Subdivision for additional lease of space. Ryans Creek slough is in back and will remain in conservation status. 5. Wayne Regelin has resigned from the P&Z Commission. H-7 Harbor Commission Nono I. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD 1. Atty. Delahav noted the Mayor and Vice Mayor will be in Juneau Feb. 3, 1982, the date of the next regular Council meeting. 9-0 KENAI CITY COUNCIL JAN. 20, 1982 Page 22 MOTION: Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilman Wagoner, to change the meeting date for the first meeting in February to Feb. 5, 1982 and notice be given to that effect. Time will be 7;00 PM. Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. Clerk Whelan was asked to handle the change. 2. Public Works Director Kornelis said regarding the letter of intent on the drainage study. 15 firms are interested. The Public Works Committee will narrow it down to 4 or 5. Mr. Kornelis asked that the Public Works Comm. also take a look at procedures on the water b study. Councilman Wagoner said he did not want more detailed study, he just wanted a fixed amount bid to do the drainage study. You don't negotiate a fixed price. Councilman Wise said the scope of the work was not presented, it was in the packet but not discussed. Councilman Wagoner said during the discussion, the intent of the motion was to get a fixed price dollar figures. The City of Kenai should set a criteria and ask how much. City Manager Brighton said there is not an engineering firm in the country that can give you a price. Councilman Wagoner said he knew of 3 companies that will give a fixed price. Public Works Director Kornelis said most letters have said there are 2 or 3 different methods. we could set a method but that does not mean it will be right. Councilman Wise said he was interested in Knowles' offer to use their computer. MOTION: Councilman Wagoner moved, seconded by Councilman Wise, to adjourn. No action was taken on the motion. Mayor O'Reilly noted there will be a work session on Jan. 28, 1982 at 7:00 PM regarding Social Security funds. Councilman Wine asked for an agenda and proposals on Social Security and cost -of -living increase. City Manager Brighton replied, he didn't know what Council and the employees want to propose. He needed direction. Councilman Measles noted the purpose of the work session was to give direction. ADJOURNMENT: Meeting adjourned at 1:50 AM. net Whelan, city C erk KENAI CITY COUNCIL January 20, 1982 Verbatim Translation G-1 - Bills to be Paid, Bills to be Ratified (Peninsula zngineering Considered Separately) John Wise - I move for payment of Peninsula Engineering in the amount of 87,274. Ray Measles - Second. Vince O'Reilly - Councilman Wise John Wise - We have a memo dated - a letter dated the 13th on the some six change orders to that particular project tonight. I can't really make - it's in narrative form but no opinions and I just wonder what the Administration feeling is - did the engineer perform in accordance with the contract or were there some significant errors and omissions in view of the quantities and numbers involved? Bill Brighton - Keith, do you want to address that or not? I --- Vince O'Reilly - This is change order #3 you're talking about specifically? John Wise - It appears to be the major problem. Vince O'Reilly - OK Vince O'Reilly - (inaudible) G-6 (inaudible) Keith Kornelis - Attached to the letter of January 13 is a copy of each one of the change orders with the exception of the two future change orders. Change order #5 and change order #6, coming before Council at a later date. These change orders of course are with the contractor and not with Peninsula Engineering. Change order #3 deals with quite a few different items. I imagine the item that John is referring to is the over - excavations - overrun on the excavations, which amounted to 1 approximately 10,000 yards. I believe the engineer simply made an arithmetic error in his calculations on the bidding of the thing. That's just my personal guess. He would have put in the total amount of excavation which is approximately 13,000 cubic yards. And in the bid Quality Asphalt Paving would still have been the low bidder. I did - or I should say - Jack did an analysis for us up here using this in blue being the bid that was given - using the estimated quantities of the contractor bid. in other words using 4,000 cubic; yards excavating. Quality, of course, was the low bidder at this amount. If we take those quantities with the over -excavation in them, Quality would still be the low bidder. Although as you notice here there's quite a bit of difference between the next bidder and Quality in this case, whereas the gap narrows considerably here. The reason being, I feel, is Quality Asphalt Paving is very thorough on their analysis on the quantities prior to the bidding. It's a game that bidders play. I used to play it quite a bit - you go through your quantities and you figure out where you're going to be - have possible overruns or underruns. And, if you have a possibility of getting an overrun on the project, you try to bid that project higher than you normally would, making up the difference in other items in your bid so that you're still low. If you'd like, I can sorta give you an example of what I'm talking about. Unless you understand it, and I won't do that. Man (Unknown) - Sure. Keith Kornelis - OR. I'll attempt to, I'm not - this is just an example. I did use some of the quantities and unit prices are similar to what we had (inaudible) in the bidding. This upper part above this line here is the bid that was based on the original estimated quantities like when we went out to bid. I just chose four major items of the bid. We had approximately one acre of clearing with a quantity - 4,000 cubic yards of excavation, 28,000 tons of backfill and 17,000 square yards of paving. Now the contractor looks at that and does a thorough analysis of his bidding procedures and he finds that the engineer has - or he feels there's going to be an overrun. As in this case, the excavation. He'll bid that at quite a bit higher than the other items. Now in doing so he has to be careful that he - if he bids that higher - that he can still get the job. So he's going to have to lower his bid on other items in his bidding procedure in order to still come out as the low bidder and get 2 the job. In this particular case, Quality bid $8.00 a square yard on that excavation. The next bidder in line was $4.00 a yard, which is half of that amount. So it's pretty apparent Quality caught that mistake. He bid $8.00 a square yard. This is just sort of an example, of },r,pen. He-els Bidder Al Bidder B. Bidder A bid 5,000 acre clearing, $8.uu a yaru excavation, and 4,000 - $3.00 a tan and 28,000 tons of backfill, $8.90 and 17,000 yards of paving. multiply the figures, 4,000 x 8, 28,000 x 3, you come up with this amount. The total of 0272,300. He's the low bidder. Compared to B. B bids $3500 an acre, 02.50 - quite a bit lower, as you can see, which is probably more realistic at that 4,000 yards for $10,800. He bids higher., of course, again, on the backf ill and the paving because this gentleman over here - he has to cut back somewhere. He's cut back, a little bit on these other items. So, anyway, Bidder B comes out higher than Bidder A. Now when you get down to the actual construction, and supposing Bidder A is correct - you come out with actual quantities - 13,000 square yards. Just assuming tze other quantities stay the same. Here's where he makes his killing - $8.00 a square yard multiplied times 13,000 cubic yards, you get $104,000. Bidder B, his $4.00 a yard times 13,000 is only 35,100. You add these totals up - same unit prices, of course, just a larger unit here. Lo and behold, Contractor B comes out as the lower bidder but he didn't get the job. what he's done - what's happened here is Quality looked at the quantities, found the error, and took advantage of it. Now, in this particular case though, after doing an analysis we find that Quality still would have been low. They went so low on their ' original bid they left a lot on the table. And so there's quite a bit of a buffer there. And they still came out low in the actual quantities. Again, they had to go back to the other items - and cut back. Now where they made - where Quality made quite a bit of money was that they sub -contracted out their excavation and I understand that their excavating sub -contractor was paid - like $4.00 a yard which was in line with all the other bidders and Quality possibly was making $4.00 a yard just handling the paperwork. Anyhow, no matter what happened, even if there was a mistake, we would have had to pay for that extra excavation. The question is, how much did it amount to on this. Nobody will ever know that factor except for Quality themselves, because they're the ones that shuffled the bid. They balanced - they moved the ,F quantities around. It would be a very - an extremely hard thing to do to try to prove how much money, if any, it cost the City because of that (inaudible) . Vince O'Reilly - And that's due to any engineering making a rather gross error? Keith Kornelis - Right•. I can't say that professionally he made an error. I mean, professionally meaning his design work. 1 think he just slipped - just made an arithmetic error, you know, like somebody was adding or subtracting their checkbook. I don't think that - and I'm sure he doesn't feel that there was a mistake somewhere in the way it was figured. I mean the way we figure cubic yards on the excavation or something. He just - I think - I'm sure he just feels there was just an arithmetic error. Professionally -wise I don't think I have a problem (inaudible). Be just slipped up. That's just my opinion. I don't want to go on record saying that that's exactly what happened. Vince O'Reilly - All right. , Keith Kornelis - we went over this change order though. Again, all these change orders have been approved so this is the second time around on them. Because this is the final bill for Peninsula Engineering I - that's why - and John requested this. Vince O'Reilly - councilman wagoner. Tom wagoner - I myself, I'm not an engineer, but I think he made a professional mistake. I don't see how anybody could engineer a project like that and have to go in and re -engineer it because of the elevation that he came up with the initial time that created the amount of drainage problems that we're going to have with the ; water out behind the Post Office in some of these areas. I think he made a gross error. John wise - That's the other part of that same chance order (inaudible). Tom wagoner - That's right. I think he did snake a very large error and I think it was grossly made and I don't think we should pay him another pickle. Keith Kornelis - I was referring to the excavation. 4 Tom Wagoner - Yeah, I realize that (inaudible). Keith Kornelis - Now, a couple of other things - maybe I should point out - if it's relevant or not. He was relieved of the duties of inspection on the project and although he was not relieved of some of the testing and surveying, so he continued on with that portion of it. We had to - as everybody knows - we had to hire an inspector to complete the project, because statement #7 here included in the package shows that he went over - besides the 7,000, which is the retainage that we keep, 011,145 and I don't recommend paying that at all. That's (inaudible). He does have an outstanding bill to McLane and Associates, although McLane and Associates has a check in their possession, but they're going to hold it till they got final payment - till Peninsula Engineering got final payment from the City. That was an agreement that he had with McLane. The way I understand it. Betty Glick - (inaudible) John Wise - You mean it's rubber right now. Keith Kornelis - OR. Pardon? John Wise - You mean it's rubber right now. Keith Kornelis - Probably. Formally, in most cases in construction projects we call for a release of claims (inaudible) liens. In this particular case because I knew we were - according to the construction contractor - in this particular case because I knew we were having some financial problems with the project - I knew he was having some financial problems with the project - I should say - I contacted some of the -= = sub -contractors - the testing outfits, McLane and that. Actually - McLane also has been contacting me. And there's a good portion of that amount of money that was owed that Peninsula Engineering owes - like McLane Surveying. And before we would release the money to him I wanted to make sure that his sub -contractors were paid. So I required an engineer's release, which is in here. And the only way, of course, that he would give we that was to make some kind of arrangements with McLane saying that his bill would be paid. And I think probably what John is saying is ;,. probably correct. The check is waiting - it's probably waiting ` - 5 ..i '`n 1 L � the account is waiting for our funds to go into Peninsula Engineering's account (inaudible) sc that the check is good.. Vince O'Reilly - And with that, Council? Councilman Wise, we have a motion before uh. John Wise - I did not get into the gtRde change. Councilman Wagoner and the rest of Council were here at the time. I am concerned - and I don't necessarily disagree, but I just wasn't here and I don't know the details. I am concerned over the excavating over on - and not wishing to make a big point of it - but I think professionalism requires good arithmetic. And I - if an arithmetic error was made that's certainly a professional reflection on someone who's doing this type of work. I have a great deal of difficulty in accepting the magnitude of that particular change order. Even though it appears that there wasn't a (inaudible) review of the other bids that the City didn't particularly get hurt. But I have a great deal of difficulty in paying a professional for what I consider non-professional work. And therefore I cannot support the payment that has been requested here. Tom Wagoner - Call for the question. Vince O'Reilly - what happens if we don't pay this bill? Anybody know? what happens if we don't pay this bill? Betty Glick - He doesn't get his money. Vince v'Reilly - I don't know - I have no idea. Councilwoman Glick. Betty Glick - well, I have trouble accepting all this too. And I am not a professional engineer, but it just seems to me that there were a number of other items in this whole engineering process on this particular project that leaves a whole lot to be desired. And anothe: item that of course was, I think, a matter of a change order was the fact that the City Hall facility was already designed and showed - I believe a 2" water line from the City Hall facility out to the main and when the Fidalgo Subdivision project was designed it was only showing a 3/40 hook- up to the City Hall facility and I think that ended up costing us extra money, didn't it? 6 Keith Kornelis - We installed it ourselves (inaudible). Betty Glick - But --- John Wise - (inaudible) Betty Glick - The contractor would have done it, there were several thousands of dollars involved there, was there not? Keith Kornelis - Yeah, he submitted a cost estimate that I thought was excessive and we went in and did it ourselves. I don't know - I can't remember exactly. We were thinking about hooking in over at the other way, weren't we Carmen? Carmen Gintoli - I think you're talking abut the Recreation (inaudible) Betty Glick - No --- Carmen Gintoli - We did - :ne City did install it (inaudible) ourselves but there was also similar problems at the Recreation (inaudible). Betty Glick - OK. Keith Kornelis - Maybe that is (inaudible). Betty Glick - Well, that could be but wasn't there a difference in the design of the water line? Carmen Gintoli - (inaudible) the City (inaudible). Betty Glick - OK. And also there was the problem at the Recreation facilities. So there are a number of things here that, as I stated early on, that to me leaves a whole lot to be desired. Vince O'Reilly - We have a motion before us. Further discussion. The questio..'s been called for. Clerk, call the roll. Motion failed, with Councilman Mueller voting yes; Councilman Ralston absent; Councilmen Measles, Wagoner, Wise, Mayor O'Reilly, Councilwoman Glick voting no. et Whelan, City Clerk 7 1Nj FA KENAI CITY COUNCIL VERBATIM, Jan. 20, 1982 F. OLD BUSINESS F-1 Architect Carmen Gintoli - Airport Redesign Schematics Mr. Gintoli - What I've done is, a week ago Monday I met with Mr. Brighton and Mr. Swalley and was directed to take scheme 2 and make certain changes in it, and present it to Council; and what I'll do tonight is run through the differences between the original scheme and this one. What we are doing here is essentially taking 20 ft. out of the baggage claim (inaudible) from the baggage area, taking this entire unit (inaudible) north of the building, and pushing it (inaudible) incoming baggage claim area. We had originally added toilet space here. We are not going to do that but leave the existing structure on the front of the building as it exists (inaudible) the auto rental over about 10 ft. (inaudible) added a new set of toilets here. (inaudible) Basically that's the only difference. Also we have - if you recall - the Airport Operations Manager was in this location and because we felt (inaudible) from the lounge (inaudible) and located it here taking this small corner out of the security waiting room. Originally we had an exit from the terminal building directly opposite the entrance so the arrivals could walk right through but since we were directed to maintain the integrity of the front of the building and keep this structure, that changed so (inaudible). We do envision that we probably should have some sort of a railing or divider here. In the event we have some sort of baggage claim check system that we can have a railing (inaudible). So basically those are the changes. The toilet addition at the lounge - I put it in, we can either include it in these drawings or draw it in (inaudible). The cost of these toilets is approximately $25,000. At this point that's an estimate. So to briefly run through the entire project, (inaudible) the airport at the north end we are adding about (inaudible) drop off (inaudible). This will be general waiting area. Those who have to go (inaudible) Jim Swalley (inaudible) relocate this entry or add another entrance to make (inaudible). This is not a secure waiting (inaudible) open it up (inaudible) observation space here for people waiting, you can't see the airplanes as well (inaudible). If we open this up it may be more inviting (inaudible) when you return near the end, claim the baggage(insudible).The existing terminal building is the dotted line indicates (inaudible) from this line over (inaudible). The total square footage now of new construction, including the toilet addition here is 8,460 and remodeled about 7,480. That includes the renovation (inaudible). Take the 8,460 at the $125 per sq. ft. estimate, that's a million, 057,500. The renovation, 7,480 sq. ft., at $75, is $561,000. The total, $1,618,500. 10% contingency figure of $161,850 brings the total to $1,780,350. If we issue this as an additive alternate we assume the cost to be $45,000 and deduct that from the estimated total to bring the amount to $1,735,350. That does not include (inaudible). Mayor O'Reilly - Councilman Wagoner. Councilman Wagoner - On the part below the rest rooms, was that part already there, Carmen? Mr. Gintoli - That exists, that was built by the owner in audib ITT. Mayor O'Reilly - Questions or comments by Council. Councilman Mueller. Councilman Mueller - On the sewer line problem, I would like to suggest that they make very sure whether there is a problem (inaudible) and if there is (inaudible) all the way before we get (inaudible) parking lots are paved (inaudible) requires a line from the opposite end, maybe that's what it takes. 1 1 i 1 1 ► `1 CITY OF OF KENAI JAN. 20, 1982 VERBATIM, Portion Page 2 City Manager Brighton - I was only going to suggest that you contemplate a new line on the north end (inaudible) rather than tapping in the old one. It's probably just as close to go to the road with the sewer than it would be to tap into the old line. Mr. Gintoli - At this point I hadn't (inaudible). You're probably right. It may be easier to run a new line (inaudible) sewer. City Manager Brighton - That does not take away from Councilman Mueller's question inaudible). Mr. Gintoli - Either way this should be (inaudible) and we'll look into it. Quite frankly I think the problem the restaurant has may be very simply resolved by (inaudible), cut that out and put a grease trap. There's no grease trap in that kitchen now because originally it was just designed as a snack bar. But now they put french fries (inaudible) grease on the floor, they wash it down into the drains (inaudible). I think the addition of a grease trap in there. We had a man come in and look at that and he thought that it would probably resolve the problem. Trap is merely a hole in the floor with a basin in it and the grease floats to the top of the water and occasionally the owner of the restaurant skims the grease off. That keeps the grease from going down into the drains and coagulating (inaudible). We feel that might resolve the problem but we definitely have not abandoned - even though we're not doing renovation here - we still feel (inaudible). Mayor O'Reilly - The construction sequence using this schematic? Mr. Gintoli - The thought behind this expressed by Mr. Brighton is to renovate to approximately here on the existing terminal building. We have to take into account whether or not we want to deal with that area that AAI has its freight in now, cut it off (inaudible). What we anticipate doing is renovate the space that the old city hall offices are in and add this new construction - that's phase I. And take everyone from here and move them into here and use this much space as a terminal building (inaudible) getting out and then renovate this part (inaudible) CH2M Hill project (inaudible) I believe that (inaudible). Mayor O'Reill - Access to the restaurant during construction would probe y not exist? Mr. Gintoli - Yes, it would. We'd have to maintain a corridor throng ere if we have to put a barricade (inaudible). We have to maintain a corridor through here so they have access - public access. Mayor O'Reill - As far as timing, we continue to move forward the schematics (inaudible)? Mr. Gintoli - If everything goes well, if we can get the sc ema ics approved in the next week or 2, we could probably be out to bid (inaudible). Mayor O'Reilly - What is the capacity of baggage claim area? Mr. Gintoli - People -wise? Mayor O'Reill - No, in other words, is there any estimate you can mace can handle passengers - 200 passengers? Mr. Gintoli - That's difficult to say. I can't answer that question. CITY OF KENA.I JAN. 20, 1992 VERBATIM, Portion Page 3 Mayor O'Reilly - It's been expressed to me some concern that if we set it UN LIT11.71 wa), if you Iia,e adds, 1 �t-j, fI1yjW ; -A-ld what -have -you, or additional expansion from the north, the baggage claim system would not be adequate. Mr. Gintoli - As it's designed - see here what would happen if you had two flights coming in at the same time. You only have room in here for one (inaudible) and a couple of carts. Assume that Wien was in and they had two carts (inaudible) there wouldn't be room in here for AAI or anyone else (inaudible). If you had two of the commuters who may use smaller equipment (inaudible) two carts then it's possible that one could unload its baggage onto a slope tray here (inaudible) conveyer, the other could do the same. The only problem is that the conveyor moves in this direction and there's some problem of getting the baggage over here without interfering with this (inaudible). If you recall when we had this laid out in a T shape like that the baggage could be put on anyplace along here (inaudible). The problem is you reduce this 20 ft. and it's going to make it difficult for more than one carrier to load at a time. Other than that - - - Mayor O'Reilly - Council care to hear from the public on the schematics at this time? Anyone from the public wish to comment on the plans at this point? All right, Mr. Swalley. Jim, you want to get on the tape, please? C4 a, a7-aY 0 KENAI CITY COUNCIL January 20, 1982 Verbatim Translation L-5 - Rei.eits, Finance Director Betty Glick - I had one other question of the Finance Director, if I might please. Vince O'Reilly - Yes Betty Glick - For my edification once more, Mr. Brown, could you please tell me why we passed the ordinance allowing bills to be paid up to $1000 without Council concurrence? What was the purpose of that ordinance? We were allowing you to pay bills up to $500 and then we raised it up to $1000. Charles Brown - Why? Betty Glick - Yes, why? Charles Brown - I think one argument was inflation drove up the cost of the same goods we could purchase for $500 to a somewhat higher figure. (Inaudible) I wasn't given any other reason why the Council voted the way they did. Betty Glick - Would you say a fair explanation would be to help to expedite the daily business of the City? Charles Brown - OR Betty Glick - Does that sound like a fair explanation? Charles Brown - All right. Betty Glick - My reason for asking this is I think we did that for a specific purpose which was to help to expedite F.j the business of the City or that we're not dinkin' around with $500 or $600 bills that are for supplies, materials, etc., etc. I don't think the purpose was - to circumvent informing the Council of actions that are 1 going to be taken or that are being taken that - to circumvent Council's knowledge of what the business of the City being tKansacted is. I don't know if I'm explaining this exactly right. The reason I bring this up is, back in April there was - and these arr in minutes that have been approved - a comment mace that the kill was, I think 600-some dollars, and if they waited until after such and such a date then Mr. Brighton could pay the bill without going through Council. goes I read something like that in the minutes, that distresses me. Now, there may not be a thing in the world wrong, but on the other hand you never can tell. And again last week I heard the same comment made, "well, we can expend so much money and we don't have to go to Council." The sum of money we're dealing with is $300, but that $300 (I believe it was $300) has extenuating circumstances because it can either commit the City for further expenditures or it implies a further commitment. And I don't care where the money is coming from for that expenditure, whether its from general fund, bond monies, grants from the City or State, or whatever, I think when there's some kind of a commitment being even implied on the part of the City, the Council should be informed of such an action. And what I'm dealing with is the appraisal of the Coyle property. Now this implies a commitment. And I think the Council should be made aware of the fact that money is being expended and that there is a possibility that we're gong to have to be expending other monies. Again, I don't care where the money's coming from. The fact is that we may be expending further monies. Bill Brighton - Mr. Chairman Vince O'Reilly - Go ahead, gill Bill Brighton - She's making reference to a directive from the Harbor Commission. And having not prepared myself in researching the minutes, I was expending - the figure was 8300? Betty Glick - I believe -- 2 Bill Brighton - --on the basis of a directive from the Harbor Commission to get an appraisal on the Coyle property adjacent of Bob Roper. And I'm going back in my mind - I am trying to recall - that the Council said the City Manager would have the right to spend up to $1000 on behalf of the Harbor Commission at its direction without having to go to Council for approval. Now if that is incorrect, then I have made a mistake. But its in the back of my mind that the Council made a motion or gave permission under that particular set of circumstances. Now, I haven't gone back and looked, and checked to make sure that's exactly right but that was the impression that I was operating under. Vince O'Reilly - Betty. Betty Glick - I'm not talking about everyday expenditures, whether you're spending it for the Harbor Commission, Planning Commission, your office, Finance office, or whatever. These are what I call every day expenses - where you're buying supplies, spending money for those circumstances. But what I'm saying is the fact that we are spending money for an appraisal, that implies a commitment. Or it could be held as a commitment on the part of the city and I'm getting a little nervous about these things because here we have this Roper deal which the City gave a lease in good faith, then we're criticized, and now we're in the process of thinking about buying it back. And we have various and sundry things that are always happening and I guess I just like to make sure that all loose ends are all tied up and everybody knows what everything is from the very beginning. Vince O'Reilly - Can I ask, when you talk about further expenditures, you mean that we would be committed to buying the property? Betty Glick - That's right. Vince O'Reilly - Councilman Wagoner 3 Tom Wagoner - I don't understand the point. In the first place we passed the Harbor Commission budget, we passed the Planning and Zoning budget, we passed the City of Kenai budget. And these funds are coming from there, right? Betty Glick - That's right. Tom Wagoner - Well, if they're coming from there, in the first place we've already authorized the expenditure of the funds in the categories as budgeted. And in the second place, I don't see where any appraisal can be intended as a future commitment. There's no way it can be misconstrued as that, and thirdly, the Council has talked time and again, over and over, and Mr. Brighton has been asked in these Council meetings, in these sessions, under the City Manager's report 2 or 3 times, if he has or has not proceeded with getting the appraisal on the Coyle's property. I mean, right here in Council that has been asked 2 or 3 times. Vince O'Reilly - Councilman Mueller, you had a comment? Dick Mueller - I cannot see where ordering an appraisal would constitute a commitment of any kind. A commitment coula be made on the basis of an appraisal, but certainly the f4ct of getting an appraisal does not make a commitment (inaudible) I order appraisals for people nearly daily and it doesn't constitute any commitment to purchase. Vince O'Reilly - Councilwoman Glick Betty Glick - Well, perhaps I'm making mountains out of molehills. And I'm not talking about an approved budget, which - as I was trying to state - to me there is a differehee. You approve a budget which allows you to operate on a daily basis, week to week, month to month, for the year. But when you start expending money that may have further commitments, then I think we need to be aware of that fact. I don't know if I'm making myself clear, but what I'm trying to say is I don't think we should be expending monies that may cost us more money later on. I don't want - what shall I rI say - I don't like bomb shells dropped on us and al of sudden we're committed to spending "x" number of dollars. Vince O'Reilly - OK. Mr. Cyle wishes to be heard. Any oLjection? Waldo. Waldo Coyle - Yes, Mr. Mayor. I want to straighten I-irs. Glick out right now. That property has not been offered for sale. It won't be offered for sale. I don't give a damn if they never build a small boat harbor. And I think the reason that she is making these implications and trying to blame Mr. Brighton for doing something out of bounds is because it's the Coyle's property. Now, for your information, I don't give a damn whether there's any small boat harbor built here. I've worked on it for 20 some -odd years and I've stood here and watched this woman try to kill things - try to destroy things - instead of trying to push them ahead. Now, if you want to kill it, you'll kill it, but I'll tell you more. The next election comes up, you're going to be sorry. Just forget the Coyle's property. Ruby Coyle - It's not for sale, not to the City. Betty Glick - Mr. Mayor. Vince O'Reilly - Yes, Mrs. --- Betty Glick - It's inadvertent that it was the Coyle property that was being discussed. Whatever property, whoever's property, I just think that the Council should be made aware of what is being happening. Now this evening we passed an ordinance purchasing, or allowing us to purchase, some property from Mr. Hansen. Recently, we sold property to Mr. Hansen. We knew what was happening when we were doing Frontage Road. And we knew these kinds of commitments were going to come up eventually, one gray or the other. But - I don't know if I'm making myself clear - but I'm trying to. And as I say, it's inadvertent that it was the Coyle property. It could have been Joe Blow's property, and I would still bring it up. The name has nothing to do with it. 5 ii C