HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-07-24 Council Minutes - Work SessionCITY OF KENAI
SPECIAL MEETING - WORK SESSION
JULY 24, 1990
6s30 - Moot with Atty. Dolahay re/Carr's parking
lot problem.
7s00 - Moot with Carr's reproa'entativo re/parking
lot problem.
Ss00 - SPECIAL MEETINGs
Award of Did - Airport Lighting
Work Session to follows
1. Cason Lease
2, Wasson Lease
3. Cato 54 Parking
4. Linwood Lana Petition
S. Airport Leasing, Gonoral Diaauouion
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KENAI CITY COUNCIL - SPECIAL MEETING
JULY 24, 1980 - 700 PM
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MAYOR VINCENT O'REILLY PRESIDING
AWARD OF BID - AIRPORT LIGHTING
Atty. Delahay explained that because of the short notice
we will have to have unanimous approval of Council to
hold the special meeting. We will have to have another
bid on the airport lighting job.
MOTIONS
Councilman Malston moved, seconded by Councilman
Measles, to conduct a special meeting for the airport
lighting bid.
Motion was approved unanimously by roll call vote.
Mayor O'Reilly asked what was the status of Ordinance
80-119, Award of Contract for Airport Lighting? Atty.
Delahay deferred to Public Works Director Kornelis.
Mr. Kornelis said the ordinance was defeated, the
purpose of this meeting was to bring it up again.
Atty. Delahay said if it was defeated, it should be
� given a different number, or a motion should be
J introduced to throw out all bids and go to bid again.
Councilman Measles asked, couldn't there be a motion
to reconsider? Atty. Delahay replied yes.
MOTIONS
Councilman Measles moved, seconded by Councilman
Mueller, to reconsider Ordinance 80-119.
Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote.
Atty. Delahay explained, all bids came in over
engineer's estimate. A telegram was received from
IBEW Union objecting to the award on the basis of
the fact that 80% is electric, and the bidder is not
licensed to do electrical work in Alaska. Mr.
Kornelis had called FAA and they did not know whether
the 51% stipulation was in the contract or not. Mr.
Kornelis had asked us to hold until it was settled.
Administration had a conference with Lon Dreka of
Coastal Inc., Tom Dwinnel of Air Tech (subcontractor),
and Ron Davis of Barley's Trucking (subcontractor).
They were told by Mr. Dreka that less than 1/2 was
electrical. The problem is not the cost of a lawsuit,
it is that if this is awarded to Coastal Inc. or not,
we are liable for a lawsuit and it will be tied up
till next year. Section 9-A (instruction to bidders)
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states we can reject all bids. The problem is,
the general specs included 51% of the work will
be performed by primary bidder. There's nothing
in our ordinance that requires this, FAA does not,
and the State does not. The simplest way is to
refuse all bids, remove that spec from the require-
ments, and go out to bid. The problems are:
1. No one may re -bid
2. The bids may go up
Atty. Delahay continued, if you use this action very
often, we may not get bids. No matter which way we
went, wo may be liable for a lawsuit. Councilman
Ambarian noted the 3rd paragraph in the instructions
wipes out the 2nd paragraph. Why can't Coastal Inc.
assign the contract? Atty. Delahay explained Coastal
Inc does not have a contract until it is awarded. If
he assigns it, he has to have permission of the owner
(us). They do not have an electrical license. Council-
man Ambarian replied they can use someone else's li-
cense. Councilman Hall asked how much is electrical?
Atty. Delahay and Councilman Ambarian replied Coastal
Inc claims 39%. City Manager Brighton asked, suppose
we don't give it to the bidder, can he go to Court too?
Atty. Delahay replied yes. Councilman Ambarian noted
we don't have the money anyhow. Atty. Delahay said
the time element is important. Either way we would
be in a lawsuit. By throwing out the bids, & starting
over, the paperwork would be the same. Mayor O'Reilly
asked Atty. Delahay, in the general proposal, isn't
there a provision to waive the requirements? Atty.
Delahay replied only for minor ones. Also, any
award not made before July 29 is going to have to
include compliance with minority business employments
plan. (10% of the work must be minority hire) Mr.
Brighton asked, is it possible, if the Council throws
all bids out, that any number of the businesses could
sue over that? Atty. Delahay said he didn't think
so. Mr. Brighton noted the bid totals are not secret
any more. Councilman Ambarian said we can reject
all bids because all are over the amount. Atty.
Delahay said that works for all bidders. He doesn't
know if any of the bids have minority contracts,
but this could delay. Mr. Brighton noted the reso-
lution says, "dependent on FAA funds." Councilman
Malston asked, do we know if FAA will pay? Mr.
Kornelis replied verbally FAA has said they will pay.
The City has the right to reject bids on their
portion. Airport Manager Swalley said the Minority
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Business Enterprise goes into effect July 29, it
requires all contracts after that date have minority
hire. Our past history is 1/2 of 1%, it must be
58-15%. If we go out to bid, it must have minority
hire, and the contractors must name the minority
hire. Mayor O'Reilly reviewed Atty. Delahay's
recommendations, and noted we should:
1. Reject all bids
2. Re -bid
Councilman Hall asked if the City had any contracts
with Coastal Inc. Mr. Kornelis replied no. City
Manager Brighton asked if there were any with sub-
contractors of Coastal Inc. Mr. Kornelis replied,
the Spur Highway lights. Councilman Ambarian said
the paving in the airport also. Mr. Kornelis added
there has been some work with Norcon. Councilman
Ambarian said he believed in contractors going by
the specs. If we should reject the bids we are
open to more suits than anything else. Mr. Brighton
said in his office the contractor said he would do
50% of the work. Councilman Hall noted it was not
in writing.
Phil Bryson, of Craig, Bryson s Freas, spoke. He
said the intent of the paragraph tit is a general
paragraph, the per cent varies depending on the
agency) is to discourage layers of subs, to en-
courage the prime contractor to stay on the project.
Mayor O'Reilly asked Mr. Bryson, in his opinion,
is 390 figure accurate? Mr. Bryson replied he has
not seen the breakdown. The proof is up to the
contractor, if they live up to the specs. Mayor
O'Reilly asked Atty. Delahay, 39% is the amount
of electricity? Atty. Delahay replied yes, but the
prime contractor will do 51%. It doesn't say
they are going to. Councilman Ambarian asked there
would be two subs, what would be the cost? Mr.
Kornelis replied, they would supply materials. The
contract requires more than that. Councilman Am-
barian said it is highly unusual for the sub to
furnish materials. Mr. Kornelis said it is his
opinion that Coastal is furnishing bonds for the two
subs. The two locals couldn't get bonding, so
Coastal Inc is furnishing them. Councilman Hall
said Coastal Inc. providing bond for the 2 subs is
common practice. But where the 51% is concerned,
it is obvious that the City can accept or reject.
Atty. Delahay said the legal problem is if we reject
we are up to a lawsuit. Mr. Kornelis read the clause
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in the contract. Councilman Hall said the only way "
we have is after vie award the bid, we have to go
by what the bids call for. Mr. Brighton said the
burden of proof is up to the contractor to provide
519 of the work. Council cannot decide that. Council- f
man Ambarian noted the contractor had been asked and
didn't answer. Councilman Malston asked what will
happen if we reject and re -bid? Mayor O'Reilly replied
we run into minority hire. Mr. Brighton said he {
estimates a 108 increase then. Councilman Ambarian f
said rewriting the spec but not taking out the 50%
clause will not stand up in court. Councilwoman
Glick said all the bids are over estimated cost.
She's not talking about 51%. That is legitimate
reason to go out to bid again. This has seldom �
happened. They will not necessarily not bid again. i
Councilman Measles said the other problem is the
minority hire. At least two of the companies plan
on doing tise work on their own. If they have to go
out to bid again, they will be higher. He doesn't
think we can judge 51% until we see the figures.
Mr. Brighton said not necessarily, they don't want
the figures to become public. Atty. Delahay said
they say 390 is electric,they do not say how much will
be sub -contractors. we told the contractors we
would not go public.
After a recess, Atty. Delahay continued, regarding
the letter from wince, Corthell, Bryson & Freas -
they recommended the bid go to Coastal Inc. Neither
of the last two requirements have we received. #3
is not possible, they are not a licensed contractor.
Councilman Hall asked when were the bids opened?
Mr. Korneiis replied, July 15.
MOTION:
Councilwoman Glick moved, seconded by Councilman
Ambarian, to adopt the resolution.
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MOTION, Amendeds
Councilman Ambarian moved, seconded by Councilman
Ralston, to amend the motion to state Coastal Inc.
must meet all specs within four days of the meeting,
or July 28, 1980, at 1200 Noon. If they don't,
award will go to the next lowest bidder, providing
FAA and State funds are available.
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Councilman Malston asked, if Choy don't?(moot all
specs)
Councilman Ambarian replied, we will have a special
meeting. Mr. Swalley said he will call Coastal Inc.
July 25 on the result. Councilman Ambarian asked if
the State has been contacted on this situation. Mr.
Kornelis replied yes. Councilman Mueller asked if
this includes the contingency that Winco, Cortholl,
Bryson S Freas had in the letter? Councilman Ambarian
replied yes. Mayor O'Reilly asked what do we know
about Sunrise (contractors)? Do we have proof they
will do 51$7 Atty. Delahay noted they are electrical
contractors. Councilwoman Glick said if they are
electrical contractors, can they do the other work?
- Councilman Ambarian asked is any part of the work 51%
of the contract? Mr. Bryson replied the electrical
is 51% of the work, by their figures. Councilman
Ambarian said we would ask Sunrise for proof now.
Councilman Hall asked what if they are just electrical
and the electrical is 39%? Councilwoman Glick said
if you make it for one, you should make it for all.
Councilman Ambarian asked Atty. Delahay, if the amend-
ment requires the contractor to get bid specs, aren't
these points regarding electrical work pulled out
of the specs? The engineer put this in when the
question aroma. Councilwoman Glick said, what we
are asking is for Coastal to just moot specs.
Councilman Ambarian said you can't do the work without
a contractor's license.
VOTE, Amendments
Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote.
VOTE, Main Notion;
Notion passed, with Councilman Hali, Mueller, Ambarian,
Measles, Mayor O'Reilly voting yes; Councilman Malston
and Councilwoman Glick voting no.
ADJOURNMENTS
Meeting adjourned at 9siS PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
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J t Whelan, City Clerk
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