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Home My WebLink About1979-11-18 Council Minutes - Special Meeting■ 0 J .. KENAI CITY COUNCIL - SPECIAL MEETING NOVEMBER 18, 1979 KENAI PUBLIC SAFETY BUILDING MAYOR VINCENT O'REILLY PRESIDING PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE A. ROLL CALL Present: Ray Measles, Vincent O'Reilly, Ed Ambarian, Ron Malston Absent: Mike Seaman, Phil Aber, Betty Glick AGENDA APPROVAL Agenda was approved for special meeting, road repairs for Cinderella Street. MOTION: Councilman Ambarian moved, seconded by Councilman Malston, that the Council declare that an emergency exists on Cinderella Street, and a special emergency meeting be called. Motion passed by unanimous consent of the Council. G. NEW BUSINESS G-1: 'Mayor O'Reilly asked City Engineer Bill Nelson to start discussion of the problem. Mr. Nelson said calls from residents started Monday. City crews were sent down Cinderella St., the water was moving really fast, the trucks were stuck twice. Since that time they have been in a monitoring position. The water has been flowing into the street to a drain. We have had a record precipitation this year, also Beaver Creek may have a log jam. Councilman winbarian asked how does this problem affect the landowners, Mr. Nelson replied the road is im- passable from the intersection, a small car can't get down the road. There was audience reaction to this reply, and Mr. Nelson explained he hadn't checked past the intersection. One resident noted he had water up to the edge of the house, and there was water in the base- ment of the duplex. Mr. Nelson explained that the water to trapped in the atraet. It to a twofold problem, the City can't get in there now, and the water would stay there till Spring and create a break-up problem. It may percolate, but i t to coming in faster than it to going out. Mayor O'Reilly asked how the problem could be corrected. Mr. Nelson replied i 1 Y r I i r L ? e t I I !.� /ter.... ___ •� "-Y _ �—_ __ _ M t"y - �• •_ ram. KENAI CITY COUNCIL '1 NOVEMBER 18, 1979 ' Page 2 that before we dig a drainage ditch, we have two problems: 1. A bulldozer sinks, we will try to use a baekhoe. 2. The land might be owned by the federal government. and the City may have a liability problem. It may be federal land we are draining into. Councilman Ambarian said it was airport land. Mr. Nelson said he wasn't sure, it might be wetlands. He didn't know who owned it. Mayor O'Reilly asked Mr. Nelson if the ditch would be on Cinderella, past Princess, with the embankment on Princess. k1r. Nelson replied yes. Mr. Nelson said he was not positive the ditch is lower than Cinderella, if it is higher, they would have to dig farther down the ditch. They would start the ditch at Cinderella to make sure we are going downhill. Councilman Ambarian asked what are the alternatives, Mr. Nelson 10 replied: t , 1. Dig ging, we are not sure if it would work. 2. Pumping, we will need much hose. Mayor O'Reilly noted there is danger of equipment getting stuck on a " Cinderella to Princess, Mr. Nelson stated we will have to dig all the way , through. Councilman Ambarian asked if they had gotten elevations. Mr. Nelson replied yes, he felt the ditch was lower than Cinderella, but just because there's a section line, doesn't guarantee an easement. Councilman Ambarian replied there to an easement on a section line. Mr. Nelson suggested we could run a grade lino through to see how long the ditch could be, but not how long, it will take. !! B-1: Resolution 79-160, transferring $5,000 in the general fund budget to provide t monies for street maintenance, for Cinderella Lane . Councilman Ambarian moved, seconded by Councilman Measles, for adoptions of the resolution. Public•Comment: Mayor O'Reilly requested that all comments be restricted to a solution to the problem. Vesta Leigh stated it was doubtful if emergency equipment could reach the homes: fire, fuel, ambulance, etc. She also noted her 1980 ear can't run after driving through the water, 1 -r s- T-, -,. . ,' " , r-. ,1 KENAI CITY COUNCIL. NOVL:MBHR 18, 1070 Page 3 Ray Rogers said this is airport land, and there is a 15 ft. drop on Cinderella Lane, Lie suggested starting the ditch at a different area. fie also warned that if the water was loft to freeze up, there will be damage. Mr. McCollum said that with a backhoo, it should he dry to wet, not wet to dry. He thought the water would drain if a ditch was dug from Princess to Cinderella, but it won't work from there to the highway, An unidontiffod man said the City should got on it, the water raised 3 inches since yesterday in his house. Vesta Leigh asked if the resolution was dealing specifically with this area. Mayor O'Reilly replied yes. Mrs. McCollum asked after the water was drained off, what was the City going to do to the road. It was a ono -lane road with ditches, the gravel had boon acraped off into the ditches over a period of years, and it needs repair, Counclman Ambarian asked if this could be classified as a natural disaster and could the Borough or Civil Defers:,_ :slp, Atty. Dolahay noted there was a $4,600 fund. Councilman Ambarian noted that if it was a natural disaster, what does $5,000 cover, Mr. Nelson said he didn't know. In the past, they have paid $900 to $1,000 per day for similar equipment. Councilman Ambarian asked if this was a week and rate, Mr. Nelson roplid this was a flat rate, As far as manpower goes, the City had 3 or 4 men available. Councilman Ambarian asked how many feet of ditch there would be. Mr. Nelson replied it depended on how deep we would have to go, Without survey, he wouldn't know how deep or for, At least 1500 ft, , we don't have slot of fact* , Councilman Ambarian asked Mr. McCollum how long he thought it would take. Mr. McCollum replied one day, it depends on who does it. It may have to be lot out on contract, It it's wide enough, it won't have to be too deep, He also suggested that the excess be put on the north side, Mrs. Matz asked who will be responsible for removing damaged goads from basements. Mayor O'Reilly replied he didn't know, that it may not be the fault of the City if the damage is all over, Macs, Metz asked why haven't they surveyed. Councilman Ambarian asked Mr. Nelson if the equipment was lined up. Mr. Nelson replied he know of 3 pieces available, but they are not lined up yet. Mayor O'Reilly asked Acting City Manager Charles Brown if it was okay to get from a single source. 1 Al I KENAI CITY COUNCIL NOVUMDUR 18, 1070 Page 4 Mr. (frown replied the initial expense must be under $2,000. Councilman Ambarian proposed Mr. Nelson line up the contractors immediately. There was a 15 minute r000ss. After the recess, Mr. Nelson reported 3 , could start the next da people Y Mr. McCollum said they couldn't move equipment today, Mr. Nelson said the 3 are: Ron Mavis Jackson Garland Zubock Excavating Mr. McCollum said we don't need one as big as Davis' ► a larger one is more hassle. Ile thought Jackson had one, Mr. Nelson said he had used Zubock before, and it worked well. fie has also used Redoubt Excavating beforo but couldn't contact them. Councilman Ambarian asked Mr. Nelson who he would recommend, Mr. Nelson replied Zubock was his first choice, Redoubt was his soeond, if available, Councilman Ambarian asked if pads could be rented from one company to another, Mr. Nelson replied he didn't know. • MOTION: f � Councilman Ambarian moved, seconded by Councilman Malston, to amend the resolution to state the emergency, caused by abnormal amount of rain over the last 3 months and homes are in danger of being severely damaged, There was no public comment, r Motion passed unanimously, ! MOTION: ' The main motion, as amended, was proposed, Ii There waa no public comment, . � I Motion passed unanimously, ; - MOTION: , Councilman Ambarian moved, seconded by Councilman Malston, to direct ' the Acting City Manager to contract to have the work begin Novomber 10, 1079, that the Council authorize expenditures for emerg ency gency supplier. KENAI CITY COUNCII. NOVEMBER 18, 1979 Page 5 There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously . Councilman Malston suggested the administration stark today to see if they can start tomorrow, and if they can shoot the lines today. Mr. Nelson replied, no problem, they can even got the equipment in today. MOTION: Councilman Ambarian moved, seconded by Councilman Malston, to direct the Acting City Manager to proceed and contact Civil Defense, the Borough Mayor, and the Representatives in Juneau to pursue asaistanee. There was no public comment. Motion passed unanimously. Mayor O'Reilly confirmed that the lines would be shot today, and the equipment would start at daybreak tomorrow. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 12: 00 Noon. Respectively Submitted, A/' 11 510 J Whelan, City Clerk ty�