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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1993-06-10 Airport Commission SummaryD,z KENAI AIRBGRT COMMISSION JIM* 10, 1993 city Hall Council Chambers Chairman Hill Toppa *****AGENDA***** • 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD May 6, 1993 5. OLD BUSINESS a. Roadway Vote - (Tabled from May 6th) b. Kenai Airport Alliance 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Curbside Parking b. Short Term Parking Policy C. Car Rental Lease Rates d. Rental Space Partitions 7. AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT 8. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS a. User Fee b. Awarding Taxiway C. Floatplane Advertising Schedule for June d. City Council Agenda - June 2, 1993 e. Space Bid f. Landing Fees -N 10. ADJOURNMENT XNAPPROM KEMAI AIRPORT COMMISSION city Hall Comail Chambers Chairuan Bill Toppa JM4 10, 1993 *****MIMUTBB***** 1. ROLL CALL Members present: Bonnie Koerber; Diane Smith; Bob Thibodeau; Ron Holloway; Bill Toppa; Teresa Werner Absent: Bob Scott (excused) Also present: Randy Ernst, Airport Manager; Loretta Harvey, Administrative Assistant 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA There were two additions under information: One time premium bid for Spaces 28/29 and 30/31 Kenai Municipal Airport Terminal. Landing Fees Approved as amended. 3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES May 6, 1993 - Approved as presented a. Roadway Vote - (Tabled from May 6th) Toppa explained that the Vote had been tabled from May 6th so the Commission could get more information on this item and tour the Airport. ***VERBATIM*** Holloway I noticed this evening that there is one of the big fish haulers down there has his nose wheel on the yellow line. And if he moved back to be legal with his nose his tail would be over the other line. So there is no way he is going to fit in there. Any of the other big planes that way are not going to fit. And it seems to me . . . KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 2 Toppa - Which one is that? That DC-4 down there? Holloway - Yea. I just happened to come back from down there and I looked at him and he was well over. There is no way he was going to fit into that space. And I know the other fish haulers are every bit as big as he is, so we're going to have a problem with that right off the bat. And I really can't see., after observing some of the traffic through there, that the majority of the people down there don't use that road. So, why have it? Ernst - I'd like to speak to that if I could. Toppa - Go ahead, Randy. Ernst - That fish haul ramp, during, when the fish haul starts becomes an uncontrolled ramp. So basically they can go over the line and they can come and go without being controlled. Toppa - So they have a waiver. Is that a written policy? Ernst - It's a waiver. I just close the ramp to control traffic. And they pretty much have the run of the area during the fish hauls. They do use the road. I guess I don't need to speak to it anymore. I've spoke to it so much. I've got the letter in there from our insurance company and four of the users. I could get you another eight if you'd like, but it seems like a moot point at this time. Toppa Well, hum, would someone like to bring a motion? Thibodeau I'd just like to ask Randy a couple of things on this, for one in this Weaver Brother's letter I was just wondering if they're talking about using the north ramp? Is that the North ramp, and do they use the gate, isn't there a gate kinda right next to the tower that leads into the north ramp? In the letter here it states that they use the ramp just to the north of the terminal. Are they using that road to travel on down to the tower? Ernst In the summertime that gate is pretty much used by the fish haulers. But it can be used by anybody. But basically the fish haulers use that gate by the tower. In the wintertime we don't ordinarily keep that road open so they come through the north gate. And the majority of the activity is in the wintertime. Thibodeau But in the summertime the gate is pretty much open. I didn't understand what they were saying exactly. If the one out by the tower is open than they could use that to access that after �^ hours. I didn't know if maybe you locked it or something when you 1 left at night or why they were going through that. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION DUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 3 Ernst None of our gates are locked, to the main access roads to the airport. Thibods&U Okay, so that one up by the tower is open at night. They could just as well use the one north of the terminal and then traverse up the access road? Ernst - That's true. Thibodeau - Okay. I just wanted to know that. Holloway - I've got another question here, if I could on ERAs use of the road. We have a letter here from ERA that states that they use the runway. What is the primary use there? Diane Smith - We use it, well all day long actually. Hmm, we haul things from the freight facility also back up to the airport and take the vehicles back and forth all day long. And they just stay within that area. You know, that's the area they stay within. Thibodeau - Those buildings are kind of right next to each other there, the terminal and yours you're not, do you use it pretty much between your cargo facility and the terminal? Smith - Yea, most of the time. Thibodeau - Because the problem seems to be in the area, you know, kinda north of there. But that's a pretty small area, actually, between the . . . Smith - And we also access Fed Ex. Thibodeau - Just looking at that Fed Ex says they access it the other way it seems that maybe we're getting alot of traffic on that, that maybe should be, if it's vehicular traffic should be on the road rather than on the airport ramp where the aircraft are. From a safety concern maybe we should look at it that way. Ernst - They have every right to be on the ramp as much as DHL or anybody else and that's why the roadway is there so they can traverse from there to the terminal. And for people like ERA to get to Fed Ex and also, it just seems . . . Thibodeau - Does South Central Cargo have a road coming from the area? They have to go on the main road to come around, right? Ernst - That is correct. There is not a ramp in front of the area. There's just the taxiway. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 4 Thibodeau - Taxiway there, but they are able to . . . Toppa - That part of the taxiway is controlled. Ernst - That is correct. Anyone from Kenai Air south can't get to the terminal without getting clearance to come to the terminal. Koerber - After that trip the other night, excuse me, last month when we were out there, Randy mentioned that it was a guideline, I think we all need guidelines whether were five or fifty. But the map is a guideline and you have an option. But it seems very contradictory to me because like Teresa said in the van, she said if someone is on the road, what do you do? And Randy said well you just go around the planes, so it's very contradictory. I think the only thing that is an issue is the insurance issue. But it seems that the insurance issue would be either day and night, or summer and winter. If you can't see it in the winter I don't see the problem. Ernst - Just as a point of interest the only plane that blocks it is the fueling operation in front of Kenai Airport Fuel Services. And other than that we keep that road clear, or try to. That's the whole point, so there is a clear roadway there. Toppa - Is everyone's questions answered on that? We'd like to, we had a motion before, but not this last meeting. So I think we need to have a new motion with a recommendation with the road to remain or if it should be taken out, so I'll leave it up to you to give us a motion we can vote on. ***END VERBATIM*** MOTION: Thibodeau MOVED to recom and to Council to eliminate the service area road. Holloway SECONDED. YES YES YES NO YES ABSTAIN ABSENT TOPPA THIBODEAU KOERBER SMITH HOLLOWAY WIRNER- QUAD$ SCOTT PASSED BY MAJORITY VOTE. ONE ABSTENTION. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 5 b. Kenai Airport Alliance Toppa explained that there was no action to be taken on this. Werner-Quade - Asked if the concerns of the Alliance had been brought forth to the Airport Manager as mentioned at the last meeting? Ernst - Reported that neither item had been brought through his office. Werner-Quade - expressed concerns that there is a certain protocol to be followed on these issues which is not being adhered to. 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Curbside Parking Toppa - introduced this item and asked Ernst if he wanted the Commission to rule on it. Ernst said he would take objection that the two items listed at the last meeting weren't brought through the Airport Manager's office. He has addressed that the car rental agencies can not bring there cars to the front of the terminal. Werner-Quade - Said she thought perhaps agencies could park by the side door to the restaurant. Tom Thibodeau - Felt if the City could find space for them closer to the terminal to help reduce insurance rates for the companies they should try to make space available. Ernst - There is a dumpster in that area but he would be glad to set up five spaces on the other side of the gate that goes in by the generator building. Dan Van See said he saw no advantage to this in the summer months. In the winter time the maintenance is not always very effective. The people have to step over berms to get into the lot, etc. The City requires the agency have liability insurance and name them as additional insured. At the same time they are putting obstacles in the way of them getting to the car. In the early morning hours when it's cold and slick and icy I would bring the cars to the front of the terminal to load. My lease states I have every right to use the spaces up front. He understands the city 's concerns but Markair and taxis can service there customers in front. He felt it was a good policy to get the customers close to the back door to allow safer customer access. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 6 Ernst - Said that first of all the customer can come up to the terminal to load their luggage. The car rental agencies could keep the berms down. The city does plow that area, when they have time and sand it when needed. The Council has said on several occasions that this is not an option for the car rental agencies to park in front of the terminal. Holloway - said he felt that the goal is to make the airport user friendly. He has seen people struggling with luggage and fall and this should be remedied if possible. Ernst - asked the Commission to designate the area where the parking should be if they were making a motion. And you need to stipulate who parks where. Koerber asked if each spot should be designated for each company. She felt it should be first come first serve. Thibodeau - just so each agency realized they can only have one car there at a time. Ernst - Said there was not room for five spaces and he wondered if the restaurant owner should be bumped from his spot. Van See - Said he felt that if the loading area remained open the restaurant owner could unload supplies and than park in the lot with the other airport business people. Werner-Quade - Asked if anyone has asked the restaurant owner, Mitch Dobrich, regarding this? Van See - Said no. Koerber - felt Dobrich should be asked about this before a decision was made. Toppa - asked that the item be tabled until the next meeting to get input from Dobrich and suggested that Commission members review the proposed parking area before that meeting. Ernst - said he would send a letter to Mitch Dobrich and ask him to attend the next meeting. b. Short Term Parking Policy Van See said the Alliance was concerned about the towing policy in the Short Term Parking Lot. Currently the policy states that cars in that lot between 3:30 to 5:00 a.m. are towed. He felt that the policy does not benefit the City except pushing the people into the long-term parking area. There are some valid reasons that people KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION DUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 7 leave their cars parked overnight. The money all goes to the towing company and the public is angry about this policy and it's not worth the poor image for the city. Toppa asked what he would recommend. Van See said the policy should be left in effect. The first 24 hours put a ticket on the car, charge twice as much as the long- term parking area. Even the rental companies get impounded if a renter leaves the car in this area without notifying the company. Ernst - Said there are only two reasons cars will not be impounded. If weather has shut down the airports or if the volcano erupts. Holloway - reported that he has had friends stuck because of weather conditions and they called the airport and got no cooperation. Ernst - Said the only cooperation he can give people is to tell them the regulations. Toppa - Said he thought it sounded like the policy may be a bit harsh. Thibodeau - Said that the town was changing from an oil based to a tourism based economy. The airport should be user friendly. He felt that some type of lesser fine should be initiated. Ernst said this had all been discussed previously. If there are citations issued, it could be taken to court. How do you collect the fines? And than there is the man -power needed to give out citations. This was not done to punish people. Toppa suggested that the Commission review the written parking policy. The pay parking is working but it may need to be improved. He felt that this should be carried forward so the Commission can get more information. Ernst - That's why these issues should come before the Airport Manager so he can get information into the packet. Werner-Quade again expressed concern that these items are not going through the Airport Manager. This is not proper protocol. She feels as a Commissioner she needs all the available information to make a good decision. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 8 Ernst said if the Commission wanted to make a suggestion to Council they could. But since the items did not go through him he did not feel he had to address these issues. Ernst said anytime he gets any requests in writing he answers them. C. Car Rental Lease Rates Werner-Quade again expressed concerns that this issue has not gone through the proper channels. Ernst said he would get more figures for the Commission to compare with the Alliance's figures on lease rates. d. Rental Space Partitions Van See reported that the way the booths are set up for the Car Rental Agencies is inconvenient. They are two small for privacy which makes it difficult to carry on business. He asked that the City start putting glass partitions between the car rental booths. He had talked to some glass companies and estimated the cost would be about $100 per partition. He said he had told Ernst that he was willing to pay the cost of the partition. But when he realized the City had paid $1300 to move the door on the gift shop, he thought the City would invest approximately $500 for the Car Rental Agencies. Toppa said he felt that was a reasonable request many of the agencies had been there for many years and had produced tax revenues for the City. MOTION AND VOTE: Holloway MOVED to make a reoomendation the City install glass partitions. Thibodeau SECONDED. YES YES YES YES YES YES ABSENT TOPPA THIBODEAU KOERBER SMITH HOLLOWAY WERNER- QUADE SCOTT PASSED BY MAJORITY VOTE. 7. AIRPORT MANAGER'S REPORT None. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION, JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 9 • 41; 0 **-p 1w , • M1Y zip O • • Toppa said that he thought in the future the public comment part of the meeting should be held to a time limit per person wishing to address the Commission. Holloway mentioned the tour the Commission had taken of the airport after the last meeting. He said the airport looked very good. He thought it would be a good idea to create a picnic area by the floatplane basin. And he wondered if the picnic area could also be accessed by wheeled airplanes. Ernst said that could be something to look into. Toppa said he would also like to consider camping in that area. He asked that this item be carried to the next agenda. Holloway - Said he would like the Commission to consider other advertising options for the floatplane basin. Radio would be an inexpensive way to advertise along with the newspaper ads. a. User Fee b. Awarding Taxiway C. Floatplane Advertising Schedule for June d. City Council Agenda - June 2, 1993 e. Space Bid f. Landing Fees There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:50 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Loretta Harvey Administrative Assistant KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION JUNE 10, 1993 - MEETING Page 10 AIRPORT TO DO LIST June 10, 1993 Write Letter to Mitch Dobrich regarding parking by restaurant door. Investigate putting glass partitions on rental car booths. Make recommendation to Council to remove Service Road. Get lease rate figures for Rental Agencies. Next Agenda: Campground or picnic area at Floatplane Basin Broadening future Floatplane Basin Advertising Send current list of Commissioners with packet