HomeMy WebLinkAbout1984-10-10 Airport Commission SummaryCITY OF KENAI
210 FIDALGO KENAI, ALASKA 99611
TELEPHONE 283 - 7535
NOTIGE OF MEETING
There will
Wednesday,
Chambers.
be a meeting of the Airport Committee on
Oct. 10, 1984 at 4:00 PM in the Council
To be discussed:
1. Float Plane Basin
a. Environmental Assessment
2. Formation of Trahsportation Commission
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,,~3 anet Whelan
¢ City Clerk
DATED: Oct. 5, 198~
KENAI AIRPORT COMMITTEE
October 10, 1984
Kenai City Hall
Ray Measles, Chairman
1. ROLL CALL
2~
Measles, Bob Bielefeld, ,3ones
Tom Wagoner, Mayor; Bill Brighton, Ci.ty Manage~; Randy Ernst, Airp.or.~
Manager; Keit.h Ko,hells, Public W.o~.ks .Di~.ec~o~
AGENDA APPR,OVAL
.None
OLD BUS INESS
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.Bill ,Brighton explained that, .on ~.he acquisi.tio.n of land, t.here is an
FAA f,o~m available, T.he~e' is money ?.or acquisition of lands on
.a pp ~,o v ed p ~ o j.ec t s.
Chairman Measles asked Mr. B~ighton to comment about the s~,a~ement
,that FAA had money available to .~edo .the Ai~po~ .Maste~ Plan. M~.
8~igh,~on s~ate,d ~hat the~e is money available and we need ~o apply f.o~
i~, ~C.hai~,ma.n Measles s.ta.ted .tha.t .t.his woul.d .have .t,o .be .done i,n
~eg.a~ds to .this ?l.oa~ ,plane basin anyway, Bill .B~i.ghton a.g~eed,
Commie.tee .Membe~ (unable .to iden.~i.fy).asked i.f we j.us.~ submi.t an
appl ie.a .t ion ?.o~ it and pay £o~ iL ,t,hen g,e~ ~.eimbu~sed, answer, yes,
C.hai~.man Measles .asked if ,FAA would give .us some .kind o,f assu.~.anee
.tha~ ~hey will ~eimb. u~se .us bef.o~e .we ~go a,head wi.~h i~, a.ns.w, er yes,
.B i 11 B ~ igh.ton asked a.bou.t acqu i s i.t ion .o? .the ~.ea 1 .e s.~.a.~.e ad jacen.t .to
~he fence fha ~. may o~ .may no~ be a pa~.t of .the float plane .bas i.n, T,he
.Airp.o~.t .Mas~,e~ Plan indica.tes .t.ha.t .the .only way ,w.e can .d.o i,t is ,by ,t.he
acquisition o.f .that land, .Kei,th Ko~nelis f,elt .~h.a.t .pe~haps .the plans
s.howe.d a v.e~y small .co~ne~ ,of i.t .as .being used, The .p~ice pu.t on .tha~
land was es.tima~ed by .t.he selle~ .as $35.0.0 pe~ .acre an,d .the ow.ne~s
wand,ed .to se 11 .the en.t i ~e pa ~ce I, B i 11 .B ~ igh.~.on s.ta.ted .fha.t .t.he C i.t y
.had .an es~ima~e,d $2,0.00 p,e~ .ac~e and .a~e .noL going .~o pay .th.a.t kind
o.f p~ ice, .w.e wi 11 .ha ve .to g.o .to cou ~.t ,to es.tab1 i sha p ~ ice since .they
are .th.a.t much above ?ace value,
Bi 11 B ~ i,gh.ton s.~.a.~ed ,~ha.t .he woul,d 1 ik.e .to p~.oceed o.n ,~.he .bas i s .fha
we .will n.o,t be acquiring .any land, I.t .was ag~ee.d ,that i.t would be
idea I p~.ope~ t y .fo~ .the .a i ~.po~.t L.o .acqu i~.e a .t some .time i? i,t wa s a
~eason.able p~ ice.
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Comml~.te.e Member (canno% i.d.en~ify voice)asked if .an impac.t s,ta~.emen~
.was .necessary, .Randy Erns.t s.t.a.~.ed tha.~ .he .had spoken t.o .%.he F.A.A .and
.they ~.ol.d .him ~ha.t they .do not have specific req.ui~.men.t fo~ the impact
s.~.a tement, i.~ .wa s .hand led .by .t.he .C.o.~.ps, Upon con.~.ac.~ .w i t.h t.he Co ~.p s i.t
was .found kh.a.t ~.h.ey did .no~ ~e.qui~.e and impact s.t.a~emen~, The .Co~ps
s.~.a fed fha.t .a s .f.a ~ a s .exca va ~ ing .~.ha t po ~ t ion and t.ak ing i.t .ou.~ .wa s n.o
p~oblem .as iong .as it is done wit.h a backhoe .type equipment. If it .was
.done .w i t.h a .doze ~ t.hen i.t .wouId r. equ i ~.e .a pe~.mi.t .w. hic.h .would .t.ak.e
approximately 60 days to obtain, BiI1 B~i.ghton suggested that .what .we
need is a s.~a.~.emen.t in .w~iti.ng .t.ha.~ .w.e .will .be .using .t.he .p~.ope~
.equipment elimin, aking the .need f.o~ .a Corps permit.
.May.o~ Wagone~ w. as .told .by .Jim .Burke, .an .FAA o.f.fici.al, "tha.t .because .o.f
~he .p~.oxlmi~y ~o ~.h.e .housing, e~.c..the FAA .would no~ allo.w .us
.p~.oc.eed .wi..~.h any.~hlng unless .we .p~.oceded .a.t .~his .~ 1me .wi.th .an .e.nvi~.o.n-
men~.al impac~ assessmen.t and hold public .he.a~ings .t.o make sure .the
communi.ty .was .a.w.a~e .o.~ .w. ha~ .we .w.e~.e d.oing .and .w.ha.t .the sl.tua~l.on .would
be," .Chairman Neasles s~a~ed .fha% his Feellng r~om ~he mee~lng wi.th
~he FAA o.fFlclals was ~ha~ .they were no% so much inheres.ted in %he
t~ue environmental s~andpolnt as much .as F~om a public assessmenk
s.~andp.oink concerning .the nolse level, "T.hat is one step kha~ ~hey
have said mo~e khan once ~ha~ we need ~o ~ake," Mayo~ Wagone~ s~a~ed
.tha~ "~.h.e FAA people implied .t.ha.t ~.he.re .may .be F.A.A .money avallab1.e
.~ha.t could be applied .~.o .~.he basin p~oj.'ect b.u~ ~he FAA will n.o.~ assis~
.us .w 1.~h .f.ede~.a 1 .money .unless .w.e .ha ye .an env l~.onme.n~.a 1 impac.t a s ses s-
men~ .which would clea~ ~he .way Fo~ .~hem .~o help us,"
Chair.man Measles asked Randy Erns.~ ~.o talk t.o .the .FAA .ab.ou.t applyi.ng
~.o~ the monies ~o~ the .update ~o~ .~he mas~.e~ plan; pursue possible
available .money ~o~ .help .wi.~h the cons.t~.uc.ti.on .o.f the .fl.oat plane
basin; need ~o~ an envl~.onmen~al assessmen~- .what 1~ will lnvolve;
and lnvest iga.te .the .ex i s.~ence of a .C.o~ps .p.e~mi.t.
Chairman Nk~asles .asked .ab.ou~ .~h.e ~es.~ hol.es and if ~h.e s.oils can be
.used on .~.he ~.a.mp ex.fens ion; K.e i.t.h Kornel i s s.ta.%ed ~.ha.~ ~.hey had .been
done and .the s.oils were approved ~o~ use. .Chairman Measles .asked when
Kei.~h expec.ted excava.~i.on .to .begin, .ans.we~ .this spring. C.hai~.man
Measles asked w.ha.t .t.his Commi~.te.e needs ~o .do ~o begin .work and move
~he ~.u.nw. ay ov.e~ .~.o .elimina.te .the need .f.o~ .~ha.t p~.op.e~.ty, s.u~veying .and
s.taki.ng .perhaps, Kei~h K.ornelis .quoted f~.om an FAA amended form s.hee~
concerning .the mi.nimum .f.oo.ta.ge .fr.om .~.he .cen.terl i.ne o.f ~.h.e .ex is.t ing
~unway, Af~e~ much .discussi.on i.t .was de~.e~mine.d .tha~ .the dis.tance from
.~.he .ce.n.~.e~line of .t.he ~.un.way .~o .t.he gui.deslope ~.o .be .8.0.0' .w.hic.h wo. uld
~.eq.ui~e t.h.e .pod.ti.on .of ~h.e .p~.op. er.ty i.n .ques~i.on,
Cond.emnatl,on proceedings were .discussed and .~he fa.c~ ~.~.t ~he proj.ec.t
.would no~ be held up indefinitely. Mayor Wagoner sugges~e.d ,Administra-
tion be lns~r.uc.~e.d t.o .writ.e a le.t.t.er ~o .the .owners of ~ha.t .proper.ty
making ~hem aware th.a~ Co.uncil is going ~o pu~ ~he floa~ plane basin
in .and .w,e .a r.e go ing .~o nego,t i.a ~.e .th i s .many ac r,es o f i.~ .or .e 1 s.e .w.e ,w i 11
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p~ocee,d wit,h .condemnation .proceedings, M,ayo~ ~,ag,one~ n.o,ted that .the
p ~.ope~ t ¥ i s .w.e,t lands and .ha s no fa i ~ .ma ~ket va 1.ue, Ke i th .Ko,,ne 1 i s
noted it becomes val.ua.bl.e knowing ~,her.e is a float .plane basin
p 1armed,
Commi~.tee Ne,mbe~ (voice .unkn,o.w.n) asked if .~here .was a chance ,the
p~.esent bas in coul.d .be opened fo~ ,tempora ~¥ .use, Cha i rman ,Mca s les
answ. e~ed tha.t chances ,a~,e slim, .Bill Bright,on sta.ted .that in ~eality
-w,e c,oul,d, ho.weve~, .t.he~e ,would .be al,or .of p~,oblems .wi,th neighbors,
,Chain,man Measl.es ,agreed, ,bu.t s,t~on§1y feels .tha.t .the .use of ~.he float
plane basin ,would not .c~eat,e any mo~.e nois.e fo~ .the .neighbors .than
,already exis.ts, I,t is .a famili.a~ ,a~gumen~ .t.ha.t .the ai~po~ was in
e x i s.tence .be fo~.e .the subd i v i s ions .w. er.e, I .t wa s a i so .de.re ~,mined .tha.t
a.t ~he time ~he o~igi.nal ai~p.o~.t .w.ent in the~.e .were no public
.hca ~ i ng s.
Mayor Wagoner suggested t,hat ".we should have a proviso in there that a
percentage should .be commercial .operators, i.n ,other wot.ds .we should
have the right ~o hold a percentage For commercial operators because
t.hey ar.e the ones .tha.t .bring .the business in," .Bill Brighton .woul.d
recommend this to .the .Count i1,
,b; .... .Fo r.ma .t .i.:0n..o.f. T ~a,nsp0~t,.a:.t..i0.n. Comm.i.~,tee
The .on1¥ .o.ther i.tem f.or .dis.cuss1.on is .the for, ma.tion ,of a Transpor.t-
.atlon Commlss1.on .wh1.ch would combine the .exlstlng Harbor Commission
and .the A1r.por.t Commi.t.t.ee, May.or Wag.oner .explained ~tha.t .w, hll.e .the
Harbor .Commission is no.t ~,ha.t ac~1v.e rl.gh~ n.ow, .the .harbor i.tself is a
very impor.tan.t .transpor.ta.tion sour.ce ,wi.th mor.e .barges coming i.n .all
the .t line, Value of pr.operty surround1.ng the rlv.er has .gone .up because
of .this ,and .there 1s .the .p.oss1.blllty .of i,t growlng .more s,tlll, T,he
two could work .together and be se,t up under 2 separa.t.e funding
sources, Cha.ir,man Measles stated .t.ha.t .he .does not see 1.t f.eas1.bl,e .as
".you ar.e .deallng .w1~.h really ~.wo ~.o.tally dlff.eren.t ~ypes .of op.era.tlons
.even though ~ t s a 11 .t ranspor.ta.t 1o.n r.e 1.a.ted, I .don ' .t see .one
commission really working smoo,thly in bo.th .ar.eas," May.or Wagoner
explalned ".the reason I men.tloned i,t is ~tha.t I .don't .think .ther. e's
enough for each commission .to ,do," Bill Brlgh.t.on feels .tha~ ".one .of
.the r. eaons you ,have .been so successful l,n .ret. ms ,of acomplishmen.t a.t
,the alr,por~ is because ~.here is n.o,t a barr1.er b,e~.w.een ,the alt.port and
.t.he .Councll, T.he .Council .has .dealt .dir.ec.tly .wi.th .that alrp.or.t an.d
that body has the power .to make all the de.clslons and look at all .of
the .aspects of the airport and is no.t shor~ .clrc.ulted by a group .that
may or may not have as much in~erest as the Council, "I don't see
.the commission functlonlng the same .as planning & zonin, g,
.Chairman Measles st.a~ed t,ha,t ,the ,main ~hing is .t.o ge.t .the ,project
.moving, .to be a.ble .to g. et .the .basin .g,o~ng and .then .expand f~.om .t.he~.e
un~il you ge~ wha~ you wan.t,
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ADO.URNMENT
Ther.e .being no f.u~,~,he~ business, ~.he .mee,ting was .a.djou~ned,
3ane~ Loper
Se,cr,e,~a ry
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