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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-11-12 Airport Commission SummaryKENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION November 12, 1987- 7:00 P.M. Kenai Municipal Airport - Manager's Office Tom Irwin, Chairman AGENDA 1. ROLL CALL 2. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD a. Mr. Brugman - Northern Air Cargo b. Carmen Gintoli - Airport Terminal Renovation 3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of October 8, 1987 5. DIRECTOR' S REPORT 5. OLD BUSINESS a. Proposal - Acquisition of Civil Air Patrol Lands Report from Chairman Irwin on Funding Sources b. Report from Chairman Irwin on Meeting with Mr. Arsenault - Flight Pattern 6. NEW BUSINESS a. Float Plane Basin - Slips 7. INFORMATION/CORRESPONDENCE ITEMS a. Deed to Property - Civil Air Patrol b. Letter to Mr. Floyd Pattison - FAA - AIP Funds for Float Plane Basin c. Letter from Philips Electronic Instruments, Inc. - Security Screening Systems d. Letter from Cavco of Florida, Inc. - Catalogue Request (available at the meeting) 8. COMMITTEE QUESTIONS & COMMENTS 9. ADJOURNMENT Set agenda for next meeting KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION Minutes, Regular Meeting November 12, 1987, Thursday, 7:00 pm Held, Kenai Airport Presiding: Tom Irwin, Chairman 1. ROLL Present Tom Irwin Frank Stevison B i 11 Toppa Les Vierra Matt Raymond Absent , , Josh Knopper (excused) Tim Miller 2. PERSONS PRESENT WANTING TO BE HEARD a. Mr. B. Doyal wished to address the Commission. Airport Manager Ernst brought the Commissioners up to date on the status of the airport. The airport grass strip was closed and would be open to ski type aircraft as soon as there was enough snow to be safe. Mr. Doyal felt it was safe enough to land on skies and doesn't know' if grass strip long enough, and also asked about sanding the middle 75 feet. Mr. Ernst commented that was what was sanded, however sand does go over to edge and he wouldn't compromise the safety of the normal air traffic. He felt if there was a way not to compromise the commuter aircraft, then he was willing to listen. Mr. Doyal appreciated the safety aspects, just felt a small area could be made available for use. Mr. Ernst indicated the whole thing is open to ski planes to land on shoulder of runway, inside lights, if so inclined, at own risk, however, the city stills has certain amount of liability even at own risk. The Commissioners, Mr. Doyal and Mr. Ernst continued to discuss this issue to come to some type of mutual understanding for the use and safety of all concerned. Mr. Doyal asked what would prevent opening the airport outside of the lights on the active runway to use as a strip if the ground is good enough for that purpose. Mr. Ernst has discussed this with the tower people, and thought legally, they could not clear anyone to land outside KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION November 12, 1987 page 2 of runaway lights and a designated strip. Discussion continued involving: FAA regulations, maintenance priority, clearing runway, time, snow berm and control, and liability. Mr. Ernst suggest waiting just one more year and in the mean time, he would open the grass strip. Mr. Doyal indicated if the grass strip will be available this year, he would be satisfied, if there is not going to be any berms. Mr. Ernst said it would be available as soon as he felt comfortable that the grass strip had enough snow on it for safety and where the packing down of it wasn't going to ruin grass because of costs planting. Discussion about how much snow was enough, and the amount of six inches was probably about the right amount. Mr. Doyal asked in the event the grass strip doesn't work out, could ski planes use the runway. Mr. Ernst stated he would let them use it right now, if used during tower hours and use it with no other stipulations. That's how it was before, at your own risk, inside the lights. Mr. Doyal felt if the crew were asked to try not to get clear up against lights with sand, he felt they would honor that. Mr. Ernst commented he would not do that, and explained the runway is 150 feet wide and if it's slippery all the way to the 150 feet, it's going to be sanded, that what's recorded and what city is liable for. Chairman Irwin advised Mr. Doyal the Commissioners would discuss this further to come to a solution and would notify him of what was decided. Mr. Doyal thanked the Commissioners. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - October 8, 1987 Commissioner Vierra moved to approve the minutes by consensus. 4. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD a. Mr. Brugman - Northern Air Cargo did not appear. It was suggested to delete Northern Air Cargo from the agenda KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION November 12, 1987 page 3 and room on the agenda would be made for Mr. Brugman when contact is made. b. Carmen Gintoli - Airport Terminal Renovation. Mr. Gintoli presented a drawing to the Commissioners and indicated changes for discussion. Demonstrated locations for religious materials, pop machines, newspaper stands and two gift shop areas and sizes. Location of elevator and landing with open space for perhaps industrial exhibits. Research code for unisex toilet for handicap and felt it advisable to have two toilets upstairs with both handicap accessible. Bar has 52 seats with small section for darts, and second egress out of bar is needed, so plan is to go across top of roof in perhaps a glass corridor with stairway to go down and out. Shops and locations, heating system and ventilation discussed, and designated smoking area. The use of a dumb-waiter was discussed for carrying food. Ms. Sandy Daniels gave suggestions and discussion continued. The availability of good lighting behind bar area was felt to be important. The consensus of the Commissioners was to have Mr. Gintoli present the drawings as discussed to the City Council. 5. OLD BUSINESS Civil Air Patrol. Chairman Irwin talked with several people and indicated CAP didn't have funding available at this time for a move. Decided to table this subject for a later date. 6 . DIRECTOR' S REPORT Mr. Ernst reported talking with Mr. Arsenault about the approach and went on to explain to the Commissioners where the float plane basin project is at this time. Mr. Ernst demonstrated the patterns to basin and the approaches proposed for the least amount of noise and impact to the area. Once the plan is proposed, flight standard's comes in with an aircraft and makes the approaches and set's up what is usable for final approval. Discussion followed. Mr. Ernst sent away for material on the megnommeters (ph) (x-ray machine). The price and equipment suggested from the company was $30,000. and $4,500. for a metal detector, plus shipping at $1,500. Mr. Ernst felt x-ray machine was not needed at this time and to go with a walk-thru megnommeter. Discussion followed and the suggestion was made to contact various airlines moving out of Alaska to see what kind of KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION November 12, 1987 page 4 equipment may be available and quote prices. Mr. Ernst handed out brochures from CAVCO Company regarding portable air stairs that can be. put on back of pickup and suggested sending for information. Mr. Ernst will do some more research for information. Mr. Ernst reported from the AAAE of the reallocation of AIP funds at the rate that was suggested, which is 1.7 billion. 7. NEW BUSINESS a. Float Plane Basin. Airport Manager Ernst has asked Mr. Bill Nelson to look into costs. Mr. Nelson is going to research and look into Nenana and Fort Hood. Mr. Ernst was thinking on the lines of permanent slips with wooden walkway on either side with gradual grade on East side, washed rock could be used to prevent slipping and make a nice approach. The estimate is about 40 slips on 2800 feet from one side to the other. Estimated costs is approximately $200,000. to $250,000. Discussion continued regarding concept, conversion of wheels to floats - floats to wheels, FBO's, and vehicular traffic. Mr. Ernst said there were twelve requests for slips and six requests for FBO sites. Commissioner Vierra felt there were two parts, one to go a head with concepts of slips and something to look forward to in future, so long as there's access guaranteed to the ramp. Commission Stevison suggested in the next two or three months to invite FBO's to take part in a work session. It was decided to have work session after first of the year, perhaps January meeting. Having "duck shacks" or shed type structures on site was discussed. Commissioner Toppa will investigate sizes and figures and report at next meeting. b. Mr. Ray Lausterer on Security at Airport. Mr. Lausterer addressed the Commissioners on the problem he is experiencing with vehicular traffic driving through taxi way areas and was wondering if something could be done with the gate access to prevent drive through traffic. Also, has experienced a problem with break-in once and almost hit twice, and feels there is a lot of unauthorized vehicles coming in gates. Discussion followed on ways to prevent this problem and enforcement. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION November 12, 1987 page 5 It was suggested to get with FBO's and have them lock-up, put public notice in newspaper and get a list of city ordinances for policy. Chairman Irwin will see City Attorney to see what legal steps can be taken. Mr. Ernst will get a copy of city ordinances. 8. CORRESPONDENCE Mr. Ernst did provide CAP property deed to Commissioners. Letters discussed are attached. 9. ADJ OU RNMENT Meeting adjourned at 9:25 a.m. Niva A. Aburto ....... dba/Niva's Clerical Services ) for the City of Kenai