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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-06-15 Airport Commission SummaryCI T Y 0 F KENA I P.O. BOX 580 - KENAI, ALASKA - PHONE 283-7535 ®s SIGNED DATE KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989- 7:00 P.M. City Hall Council Chambers Chairman Bob Summers Presiding 1. ROLL CALL Present: Summers, Ames, Dean, Knopper Absent: Shackleton, Toppa Also Present- Airport Manager Randy Ernst, Councilwoman Marj O' Reilly, Secretary Janet Loper 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Agenda approved as submitted 3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD Mr. Tom Sumey: I own a float plane parked at the basin in the designated slip for the Civil Air Patrol. One of the issues they've been trying to clear up is the size of the fuel tank that I can have at the basin. I talked to the Airport~ Manager and he. indicated that the proposal at this point is 50~0 gallOns. I obtained, at no cost to Civil Air Patrol or the Department of Public Safety, a 1,000 gallon tank and a stand. I had the tank cleaned and I have it ready to install. Some positive sides to having a 1,000 gallon tank versus a 500 gallon tank is that you usually get a break from the vendor at 500 and again at 1,000 gallons. Civil Air Patrol, being a nonprofit group, we buy fuel as cheap as we can to keep the search aircraft going. We don't use it for fishing or hunting or that type of activity. As far as a commercial operator is concerned, perhaps the size of the tank is something that needs to be considered, but the amount kept at 1,000 gallons, i.e., a commercial operator, operating a Dehavilland Beaver or a Dehavilland Otter, perhaps we should look at two 1,000 gallon tanks. For a private non-commercial lot a single 1,000 gallon tank. As far as spillage is concerned, I think perhaps an inspection of the tank by public works, the airport manager, or his designee would be in order and that the tank be installed above ground because of the recent DEC regs that they have out on buried tanks. A positive on/off valve with a padlock installed on the outlet drain of the tank. So you'd have the tank, a pipe coming out of the tank, a positive on/off valve with a padlock, and then your KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 2 fuel hose. So if you did have a leak it would be a minimal amount of fuel, just what would be in the hose, rather than the whole tank. So I'm throwing it out for consideration. Commissioner Knopper- What kind of plane do you have? Answer Citabria. Commissioner Knopper- What is the fuel capacity. Mr. Sumey: Good point. The fuel capacity of a Citabria isn't much, its 39 gallons and burns 10 gallons an hour. Mr. Sumey: What we did with the Civil Air Patrol slip is we said we'll put a search airplane in there. We have a Dehavilland Beaver on floats assigned to the Kenai Squadron. The fuel capacity on that aircraft is two 35 gallon tanks in the belly, plus 25 gallon tank in the belly so that's 95 gallons. And then 42 gallons in the tip tanks or 137 gallons total fuel. It burns about 20 gallons per hour on the top end. On an extended search we quite often run through 1,000 gallons of fuel in three or four days. Commissioner Knopper- Do you have a tank at your other facility. Mr. Sumey: We have a 500 gallon tank at Longmere Lake which is where the Beaver is parked. One of the reasons it's out there is that fuel readily available there. We're always running out of gas right in the middle of a mission, so 500 gallons doesn't cut it for that airplane. Commissioner Knopper- Do you have another tank at the airport. Mr. Sumey: I have a 1,000 gallon tank at the hangar. That's the reason we went to 1,0Q0...g.allons. The Beaver we've got isn't on amphibious floats so rwe can't taxi over and fuel up at the CAP hangar. Mr. Sumey- So that's my question. Randy told me that the size came from discussions that he had had and that was what presently was in the regulations for the size tank. I looked at the Commission notes here, at the changes, and on #11 on page 3 it mentions leaving the tanks and buildings as is. But the original set of regulations I had for the airport just said that you could have a fuel tank but the size and the restrictions on the tank would be determined by the City Airport Manager's office. So what I'm seeing is that there's nothing in writing that says the .size tank. And it is something that should be addressed. Airport Manager Ernst- You're correct, there isn't. And when we got the draft of the regulations out, we got them out kind of quickly so that we would have something to give to people when they come to the basin. There was not a size determination of the tank, we had bantered about either 300 or 500 gallons and that was the maximum amount we talked about. Hopefully, we'll decide tonight the size of tanks and the type of rack we'll allow and the type of valve. If you remember we really hadn't had any definite direction that way and the same way with the size of the building. We had talked about a size of building but we didn't talk about the structure. As far as the size of tank, I think its 46" in diameter by 6' long for the 500 gallons. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 3 To address Mr. Sume¥'s question, I don't see it as unfeasible to let the commercial operators have 1,000 gallon tank. Eventually, they'll be required to move them. The CAP presents a particular problem because they're not really a commercial operation. We may we want to put them over on the commercial side after they are built this summer. Temporarily they are all going to be on the east side of the parking area. I have no problem for the commercial people at 1,000 and leaving it a 500 gallons for private so they can get that first break. Chairman Summers- That would mean initially everyone on one side would be at 500 and when they move over to the permanent facilities they would have 1,000 gallon tank. Airport Manager Ernst- At this point we don't have a commercial area so I don't have any problem with allowing them to have 1,000 gallon tanks on this side, but with the stipulation that they would have to be moved to the other area. Commissioner Ames- I don't see why there should be any question as to whether there's a 500, 1,000, or 300 whether its privately owned or commercial. Not all airplanes are the same size whether privately owned or not. If I was flying a Beaver of my own I'd want a 1,000 gallon tank. I don't see any need for all these things being the same, I object to that and find it inherently wrong. Commissioner Dean- Is this going to be on a Support structure. Mr. Sumey- No, I'm afraid-it would fall down if we did that. 1,000 gallons is pretty heavy. You get 6#/gallon with 6,000 pounds of fuel and the tank weighs about 250 pounds. I've got it in a wooden cradle. I'd think public safety wise it might be something you would want to consider, to require some type of a very sturdy stand underneath. With a small rack, you get a little bit of ground settling, some soft ground during the spring time, add some kids out there skipping rocks and you get a tank that might crush one of them, and we'd have a problem. Mr. Sumey: Just for your information, I've worked the pond quite a bit with my Citabria, a Beaver, and a Cessna 185 in flat, no wind conditions, 20 knot headwinds, and 15 knot direct headwinds, and it's an excellent facility. I'm not a super experienced float plane pilot but it's a nice facility. I did notice one thing, I wasn't real happy with the rescue boat for the pond and I did. acquire, for the City, a 16' aluminum, semi V riverboat and a motor that was seized on a Fish & Wildlife case. The Kenai Fire Department is going to take that boat and motor and make some arrangements to take it over to the pond. They're probably just going to leave it there and carry the motor over when they need it. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 4 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of May 18, 1989 Airport Manager Ernst- A comment about the minutes, not having been at that meeting, and reading these minutes, it left a lot to be desired, especially when it came to the corrections to the float plane regulations. I, being directly involved was trying to decipher how to put down in the regulations what the recommendations were, it was about impossible. Chairman Summers- As a matter of fact, I was going to mention this as we get into Old Business. Everybody will notice that we have a staff member here. We have been having some real problems with minutes being taken previously. Not only with the accuracy and fidelity and the wishes of this Commission but also getting information transmitted to the Council in a form that made sense to them and reflected what we were trying to do. We had a meeting with the Mayor, the Airport Manager, Janet, and myself on Monday and I requested some support from the administrative staff to help us streamline this a little bit so that we can forestall this in the future and I think it was a very productive meting, the Mayor was supportive, Randy was supportive, and Janet also. Hopefully, when we come up with whatever decision we come up with they'll get transmitted to the City Council in a timely fashion and one that will make some sense. Airport Manager Ernst- I would just like to co~mment too that because they were the way they were, I had to go ahead and make some decisions and I don't want the Commission to feel like we're overriding them, but I had to do something to get these things going. So if there are some modifications to be made to the regulations we can go into them in quite a bit of detail later one. Chairman Summers: Iappreciate you submitting these and carrying forward. We found ourselves in an uncomfortable position. We had worked 5 hours and I think accomplished quite a bit and somehow we never did get a document together that reflected all that energy. And more importantly, nothing that we could take to the City Council. And I think that was a problem that we didn't want to continue with. And in fact we won't be. I would like the Council to keep this in mind when they consider the new contract for secretarial services. Councilwoman O'Reilly- This is a topic that has been mentioned by Council over a period of time, not necessarily directed at one secretarial service but for a number of different reason and have been unhappy with the timeliness of things. Chairman Summers- It doesn't service the Council or the Commission when we get all this input from the community and spend all this time putting it together and it doesn't get to the Council. I do want to say that the response of the Mayor and administrative staff has been great. I think it will work out just fine. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 5 MOTION: Commissioner Knopper moved to accept the minutes, seconded by Commissioner Dean VOTE: Motion passed by unanimous consent 5. OLD BUSINESS Review Decision of Council- a. Float Plane Basin Regulations Chairman Summers indicated that the Commission would be going over these step by step. 1) Keep in mind that when the float plane basin was put together, the intent was that the transition between the basin and the rest of the airport was never intended to be, my understanding at least, anywhere near the discussion at the last few meetings. In fact, I guess the issue is that it was supposed to be secured from the airport but not secured within the airport which appears to be the attitude that was developed at the time. 2) the second issue is to address the tanks and the buildings. Location and Size- ,, , No discussion. Aircraft Size- , ,, Airport Manager Ernst: That determination was made with the largest aircraft that the facility could handle which is an Otter. The slips are built on 50' center so that you could put two Otters side by side and it would still work. Tiedown Sli~ Request Airport Manager Ernst- This is where the renovation of the regulations came about and.I tried to incorporate - realizing that you were probably trying to figure out a way that we can get a dual purpose situation going and it seemed the only way to do it feasibly at this point was to set aside 29 slips at the long term parking area that we have already. There are 6 slips that are for transient parking at this point. These 29 slips are for those people who want to have dual occupancy so to speak. This would allow them to make the transition from floats to wheels. This would be on the south end of the airport. As I outlined it, the FAA's objection is to the use of the limited access taxiway on a regular basis or having it open, or having a key card gate, or whatever at the onset of the project. It was at the insistence of the City that we put it there to accommodate the transition people. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 6 Keeping that in mind and trying to accommodate wheeled aircraft on a gravel pad that wasn't designed to accommodate aircraft, fuel tanks, buildings, and vehicular traffic at the same time, having aircraft taxiing around didn't seem like a good idea. Council agreed with that and their recommendation is in my Manager's Report and states that they approved the basin for only floats and ski operations, adopted the original float plane basin regulations, and directed the Airport Manager to make available 29 slips at the long term parking. Cost. and Billing- This allows those at the basin who want to, to stay there year round at a private rate of $360 a year plus tax and $480 for commercial. To bring them back to be at the basin from mid May to mid October roughly. Then when they want to transition they can go to the long term tiedown area. We were charging $40/month there so I took $40/month times 12 months and made that the private, dual purpose permit plus tax which totals $504/¥ear. This allows a tiedown at the basin and a tiedown at the long term parking. The difference between the original $480 and $360 for commercial, I carried over and is $120. Adding that to the commercial rate of $480 totals $600/¥ear plus tax. I felt that most of the changes that you made and not seeing what the changes were, and just knowing from the minutes that you must have~done something to it, I moved ahead working it out this way. The FBO that has tiedown spaces now, is kicking everyone out as of June 30th. The Council recognized that there would be a problem because those people may come over to the City tiedowns and there are only 40 spaces. If 29 are used for the basin transition that only leaves 11. The Council requested that I make out a preapplication for AIP funding to double the size of our long term parking and continue south with it at the same size and direction as now. I will be doing this by January of next year. I think that will solve the problem. It will cost a few more dollars, but they are getting two excellent facilities. I put a clause in the regulations that would probably be an accounting nightmare but would be viable and that is to sublet the spaces for the dual permit holders while they are at the float plane basin during the summer. I will have those that want to stay for only one or two months sublet at the long term tiedown and ensure that they would be available again in October when the dual permit holders make the transition. If we do run into a problem we still have the 20 spaces at the transient parking at the south end of the terminal. These are the only changes in the Cost and Billing section. Everything else was left the same. I feel that we have to run a winter to find out how the ski operations are going to work. KENAi AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 7 Vehicular. Access and Parking..: No changes, no comments. Snow Removal and Maintenance- No changes, no comments. Float Plane Facility Security'. No changes, no comments. Radio Equipment- Commissioner Dean- I feel everybody should have radios, but when the tower is closed its not required by any regulations that anyone talk to the flight service station. Yet I notice in here it states that they must have a radio. When the tower is closed, the flight service acts as a flight advisory service and there's nothing in the regulations that says a pilot has to talk to the flight service station either on take off or landing. Which is by far the better idea. I don't know that we can say he's got to have a radio. Airport Manager Ernst- That's very true, they're not required to' call the flight service station, however, if you're going to have this kind of facility I think its prudent of~the City to require that they have radios because if that fellow leaves during the tower hours and he doesn't have a radio we've got a problem. If he doesn't have a radio he's probably going to be leaving at night and after the tower is closed and the float plane facility, for all intents and purposes, somewhere in mid August or September, its going to be dark when the tower is closed and they can't land there anyway. Same for ski operation. Airport Manager Ernst- We're saying that if you use this facility you need to have a radio and this facility is owned by the City. .Transition- Float to Wheel/Skis Discussed previously. Aircraft Parking- Airport Manager Ernst: I don't have a problem, as long as I have a list of the planes that are going to be in there. The N numbers are the only way we can determine if that plane is allowed there. For instance, if the CAP has 5 different planes and I have the N numbers, I don't have any problem. They can only fit one in there at a time anyway. I think that was a question someone had before. This way if I make a check and find a plane in there without the right N number I'm going to impound it. You might want to put something in there about the owner of the plane in the slip otherwise you might get into a s~bletting situation. That verbiage is in the permit. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 8 Chairman Sub,ers asked for consensus of Commission - the Commission agreed. Airport Manager Ernst to make the appropriate modification. Mr. Sumey: What happens when you go from floats to skis is you take the plane out of the water, you've got a place to do that, and thats the transition. You don't take your airplane, the day you take it off floats and put it on skis or wheels, and then take it back down and put it in the float basin. So for the person who is going to go from floats to skis, he's going to have to leave the airplane someplace until the lake or the pond is frozen hard enough to put the airplane back down. So is this transition area where you coUld leave your airplane until the pond is froze hard enough to use skis? I saw some language under Aircraft Parking, "only the aircraft assigned to a slip shall be parked at that slip." If you stopped right there and took all that language out of it, it might cover that because you have option 1 and option 2. And then move over to the long term parking for the winter. That's a regl problem because you don't let a float plane freeze in the lake and when you take it off floats, you have to wait a while for the pond to freeze before you put it back out there. Transition area is where you take it off floats and put it on wheels or skis and let it sit. Or if you could move that ski plane over to the parking area behind the slip and then move it down on the pond that's fine. But you need to do something with it while the pond freezes .... Commissioner Knopper- There's adequate space there at the slip to pull it up isn't there. Airport Manager Ernst: At this point we have about another 10" to go before high water. At that point in time we can look at the slips and see if, in fact, they can't be just slid out of the water for that period of time. I know what you're talking about, it's something we just hadn't figured on. It's a valid point. Depending on how many people do it, that transitional ramp is only going to hold so many and I think if you start putting them up on top of the ramp you're doing the same thing if you had it on wheels. We'll have to figure something out. Mr. Sumey- Those slips are deep and a couple things your going to get is, rain on ice will cause overflow right at the base. Unless you can pull it out just a little bit, you will have to deal with overflow. But trying to tail the airplane up and leave the gear down in the water isn't going to work either. Commissioner Dean: Couldn't a plane be pulled up onto the gravel pad for a couple of weeks while the pond freezes? Airport Manager Ernst- Gentlemen it comes back to the same problem, you've got fuel tanks up there, buildings and vehicles, how are you going to get them up there, bring them around on a trailer cause you can't bring them up over the top of the slip. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 9 Mr. Sume¥- The owner is probably going to get a truck, pick that airplane up, and he's going to put it right behind where the wooden parking barriers are, put it on skis, and leave it sitting until freeze up. Then taxi on out to the road, to the ramp, and onto the pond because that is the only way he can get back down to the basin. To lengthen those things up so that you could pUll the floats completely dry you'd have a real expensive excavation job with a road to each slip. Commissioner Knopper- You're saying that now it's too steep of a slip to pull them out of the water? Answer yes. Airport Manager Ernst- Then I would suggest we drain the basin to the point where you can get the planes out. I think that's the solution. The Commission continued discussion regarding water depth and taxiways. Fuel Tanks and Buildings- Chairman Summers- Is it not true that we are already signing leases and getting people to use this basin on a regular basis. You need to have some sort of regulations in terms of fuel tanks and buildings now is that correct? Airport Manager Ernst- Yes. If I have some kind of, not necessarily a regulation but a plan from the Commission, it's covered under the regulations, so just come to me and I'll give them whatever your plan is. Commissioner Dean- I think there should be some limitation on the size of tanks. Chairman Summers- I agree and second I think we should have some limitation on construction. I don't think you want some kind of Micke¥ Mouse thing out there, we need to be concerned about safety. Chairman Summers asked if Mr. Ernst had discussed this with any firms handling tanks. Mr. Ernst answered that he had contacted Greer Tanks in Anchorage and a firm in Soldotna. Basically, they couldn't give me much more than the size of tank and that they do have a stand that they make and the costs. I probably feel more like Mr. Sumey does that perhaps a wooden structure, but not a flimsy one. Chairman Summers- Is there any need to have it inspected so that when they are mounted there is someone who approves it. Airport Manager Ernst- For example, if you have a 500 gallon tank, it will have a lockable valve before the nozzle right off the tank so it can be shut down, and a nozzle that won't lock which the FAA is going to require. Commissioner Ames- I think we'd better require a lock on the upper end of the tank too, because a garden hose can take a lot. Airport Manager Ernst- I agree, I think any prudent person that had one would see to it, but we can do that too. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 10 The Commission discussed types of valves and gravity feed tanks, and heights of tanks. Chairman Summers: It looks like the City Council has approved this in such a way that it may not require us to take anything back to the Council but simply give our recommendations to Randy and he can go ahead and put them into a document. I think it would be wasting the City Council's time by taking this back to them by setting it up this way. What are the recommendations of this Commission. A motion please on the size of tank. Commissioner Ames- I feel that if we make a regulation on tank size that we limit it to two 1,000 gallon tanks on the near side but make it clear that that's not the limitation of the west side for an FBO. He can put in 5,000 gallon tank or whatever he can afford. Airport Manager Ernst- There's going to be a difference between the FBO who leases a lot and a commercial operator that leases a slip, even on the west side. I talked with Alaska West Air and he thought 1,000 gallons was fine. I would say if you're going to limit it, I can't see having more than 1,000 gallons at a slip. At some point in time if they want to lease a lot over there and at that point they can put any size they want as long as its DEC approved. Commissioner Knopper- I have one more question regarding installation of these above ground tanks, are there any DEC regulations involving these tanks? Airport Manager Ernst- I know there are pretty heavy requirements for buried tanks and I think a certain size like 10,000 gallon tank, but I don't think the smaller ones have that problem, however I will check. Chairman Smmuers: I would like to ask Randy to develop some guidelines on installation and construction of tanks not to exceed 1,000 gallons per slip and that these be incorporated in some format that can be handed out and that it is standardized, including valving and cradle or whatever it sits on. ~he Conmnission agreed. Buildings- Chairman Summers stated that the Commission had discussed a size earlier, 8 x 10 x 12. Commissioner Knopper- I think we should have Randy draw something up similar to the tanks for the buildings. 8' high, 10' wide, and 12' long. Chairman Summers asked for some guidelines for the outside. You don't want a hippy wagon or a van or a trailer. Airport Manager Ernst- I agree. It should be a structure. I was als© thinking about a fiberglass top so that gives them the light they need to work and store equipment. The Con~nission agreed and asked that they be returned at the next meeting. Chairman Summers stated that he felt what the Commission had developed was well within what the Council authorized and this merely standardized it. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 11 Storage: No comments. Transient Aircraft Registration- No comments. transient Aircraft Parking- No comments Transient Aircraft Parkin~ Fee- Airport Manager Ernst discussed signage for the basin. There are three, one very large red and white sign that directs the transient parkers to the south end. One that speaks to registration on the building and the third is the numbering on the reverse side of the slips. There is a very large sign that says "Welcome to the Kenai Municipal Float Plane Facility" and that is going to be made into a very nice sign. There will be one more set of signs and that is for holding in the middle of the connecting taxiways. The registration building is out to bid and I'm hoping that within 2 weeks we'll have the building there. Until then the transients have a freebie. The telephone company has~not,.~yet installed a line for calls from the basin. Airport Manager~Ernst will continue to monitor progress. Alaska Flying Network has a key to the gate so that they can transition from the airport side to the basin with their truck to accommodate fuel for the transient people. Restrooms: No comments Airport Regulations No comments. Chairman Summers- The last comment that I'd like to make is that this is something to get us going until we see how things are going to work. I would encourage everyone to go down to the airport from time to time to see how things are going. b. RFP's for Bar & Restaurant Airport Manager Ernst informed the Commission that the Council incorporated all the changes suggested by the Commission and they will be meeting to discuss this next Wednesday. ~his item will be held pending Council action and that the item return to the ~ission. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 12 6 NEW BUSINESS a. Open House for Float Plane Basin Chairman Summers asked for suggestions, if the Commission wanted to have an open house. Mayor Williams had suggested that a grand opening be held in conjunction with the July 4th static air show. Airport Manager Ernst spoke to the static air show and suggested that a band and balloons were about all that could be done. Chairman Summers agreed, suggesting a ribbon cutting and inviting the Chamber, the Council, and other officials, perhaps calling it a fly-in. Councilwoman O'Reill¥ indicated that there is a budget that would help with the promotion. Chairman Summers stated that the Council had approved a budget of $15,000. $10,000 of that is for public relations or promotion and $5,000 is for travel for members of the Commission on a specific purpose. Chairman S~rs established a Co~ttee for public relations/promotions with Jim Deanas Chairman. Mr. Dean will be working with Mayor Williams for a list of support agencies and persons. Purpose is to get the word out to the bush and other areas that the facility is here and can be used and will be included in the July 4th activities. Mr. Dean will be meeting with the Chamber. b. Budget Chairman ~ers appointed Josh Knopper for the Finance ~ittee.. He will be in charge of putting together a budget for these two activities. Chairman Summers asked Airport Manager Ernst for a list of meetings for a statewide airport managers group. Mr. Ernst reported that there is no such group. There are only 4 managers across the state that are responsible for municipally owned airports. The rest are state owned and have their own state managers and in some instances they vie for money with us. Chairman Summers asked if there were any other state wide conferences that would be of benefit to the Commission dealing with airports, answer no. The only agency that may is DOT and the seminars are very specific. Airport Manager Ernst reported that there was a pamphlet written by a woman regarding a commission and its goals and duties. It was written for an elected commission, however it might be something you would find interesting. This person may be willing to fly up here from Californiaand give us a one day seminar which would benefit everyone and perhaps would cost less than $1,000. Mr. Ernst and Chairman Sum~ers will meet next week for further discussions. Chairman Stmm~ers charged the Commission with the job of searching out various means of education. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 13 c. Open House for Newl~ Renovated Terminal The anticipated completion date is between 9/1 and 9/15/89 on the contract. It may be completed sooner, however, we can come within three weeks of the actual date which would give enough time to get something together. Councilwoman O'Reill¥ suggested a cake similar to that done for the Memorial Park, the Commission agreed. Industrial Display There are varying descriptions of the structure, anywhere from 18' tall on. Chairman Summers and Mr. Ernst will be viewing the structure and then discuss obtaining the space. Co~issioner Knopper will obtain the location of the display. The Commission will also be working the Bicentennial in with the industrial display. The monetar~burden of the displays will be handled by those wishing to display at the airport. Support is anticipated from packers, canneries, etc. Chairman Su~m~ers and Mr. Ernst will be meeting with a gentleman who does video displays also and to discuss the various displays. Chairman Summers felt that this would be a good public relations project to place the airport in a more visible position. .9-. Meetinq Time and Place Chairman Summers suggested that a formal motion.be made that the Commission change the locatiOn of the meetings to City Hall Council Chambers in order to be more accessible to the public. MOTION- Commissioner Dean moved that, in the future, the Commission will be meeting in the Council Chambers in order to be more accessible to the public, seconded by Commissioner Knopper. VOTE- Motion passed unanimously The Co~ission will be meeting once per month on the second · hursda¥ throughout the s~a~er. f. Commiss ion Membership Chairman Summers expressed the opinion that there is a constraint placed upon the Commission by the Council that only residents of the City are eligible to serve on the Commission. The suggestion has come from members of the public that there are people who are in the community extensively, economically, and reside outside the city limits. If we are to serve the City and make recommendations to the Council, then we need to have an applicant pool as large as possible and still stay within the ordinances as they exist. Currently, there are no applications from persons within the City limits, however, a list was supplies of persons outside the City that have inquired about membership. An individual may not live KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 14 and vote within the City but have an economic and vested interest in the development because their businesses are here and I am suggesting that that kind of incentive to participate in the City governance is just as powerful as someone who may vote here. Airport Manager Ernst stated that the obvious reason might be because the airport is municipally owned. Councilwoman O'Reilly felt that the Council would not view the idea favorably, however the one individual that lives on the city limits with half of the property inside and half outside would be the one that would have the least argument. Chairman Sun, hers asked that this issue be returned at a later date. At the present time, the Con~ission was urged to contact persons known to Co~nissioners that live within the City and approach them about serving on the Commission. 7. AIRPORT MANAGER' S REPORT Airport Manager Ernst pointed out that the enplanement for 1989, January through May are all above last years' with the exception of March and is moving steadily which is encouraging. Regarding the air show, the KC135 is questionable as to whether they can make it. They need an airstair which we don't have. The Commission and Airport Manager discussed where one may be obtained. Ideally, the pickup mounted stairs are the best and the airport should be looking at one. When we get"weather diversions, and we can facilitate off loading with security and the stairs it would be beneficial. Otherwise, the diversions must keep their passengers on board waiting out the weather. A used set cost about $5,000. The Vasis for runway 19 look good. They have been trying to locate ones that are similar to identical to the lights on runway 1. They just have to get them and put through the paperwork to get them in place, however, they may not be done by the time we get the runway overlaid. Provisions are being made that the appropriate conduit be laid. The Airport Certification Manual is completed and a copy is available from the Airport Manager. We had our first incident of a float plane landing on the wrong waterway today. A copy of a reduced map depicting the float plane basin will be run in the Anchorage Times Sunday and then perhaps in a Fairbanks publication. Also contacted was Air Alaska and a float plane publication. CommissionerKnopper asked for a copy of the list of publications throughout the state. KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION June 15, 1989 Page 15 8. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS Airport Manager Ernst asked if CAP were planning to seed the area around the hangar as the City has spent considerable time and effort in placing dirt at the sight. Commissioner Dean answered that indeed they were, however, the gentleman from the extension service was supposed to advise the CAP as to fertilizer and seed for that type of sandy soil and he has left on vacation. Airport Manager Ernst stated that he had observed seeing a cloud of dust and wondered when the seeding was to take place. The only problem at the present time is with watering. There is one main coming into the hangar and there is a large area needing water. The question was raised as to the use of hydrants. Airport Manager Ernst suggested CAP contact the City Manager regarding use of the hydrant for watering. Councilwoman O'Reilly stated that it was understanding that the rates had been raised rather than no use at all and also suggested contacting the City Manager. Next agenda: RFP' s, Open House in September, Budget, and report on the July 4th activities. Con~nissioner Ames appointed to work with Commissioner Dean on the promotion. Chairman Summers will be requesting the chairman of the Economic Development Co~m~ission meet with the Airport Co~ssion. Commissioner Ames asked if a new entrance to the float plane basin had been considered through gate 14. The reason for the question is that during the winter kids on snowmachines, will have access to the basin area and then onto the runways. With an alternate roadway, the gate to the basin area could be closed during the winter months. The frozen basin will be very attractive to snow machines. Airport Manager Ernst stated that if there is a vehicle in the clear zone when an aircraft is landing it is considered an occurrence. It is a good idea however. The idea will be explored. 9. ADJOURbVMENT There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned. The next meeting will be Thursday, July 13, 1989 at 7'00 P.M. in the Council Chambers. Janet A. Loper Secretary to the Commission