HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-03-14 Airport Commission SummaryKENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION
AGENDA
March 14, 1996
City Hall Council Chambers
Chairman Tom Thibodeau
1. Roll Call
2. ,Approval of Agenda
3. Approval of Minutes January 11, 1995
4. Persons Present Scheduled to be Heard
5. Old Business
6. New Business
a. Master Plan Informational Meeting
b. RFP for Advertising Concession
7. Airport Manager's Report
8. Commission Comments and Questions
9. Information Items
a. Airport Commission Roster
b. Bielefeld Appointment Letter
10. Adjournment
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KENAI AIRPORT COMMISSION
MINUTES
March 14, '1996
Meeting called to order by Chairman Thibodeau at 7 p.m.
1. Roll Call
Members present:
Others present:
Bonnie Koerber, Tom Thibodeau, Ron Holloway, Henry
Knackstedt, Barbara Edwards, James Bielefeld
Airport Manager Randy Ernst, Administrative Assistant
Marilyn Kebschull
Note: Sign up sheet distributed for others in attendance. Sheet attached.
2. Approval of Agenda
RON HOLLOWAY MOVED FOR APPROVAL OF AGENDA. MOTION SECONDED
BY HENRY KNACKSTEDT. AGENDA APPROVED.
3. Approval of Minutes January 11, 1996
BARBARA MOVED FOR APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 11, 1996.
MOTION SECONDED BY RON HOLLOWAY. MINUTES APPROVED.
4. Persons Present Scheduled to be Heard
5. Old Business
6. New Business
a. Master Plan Informational Meeting
Airport Manager Randy Ernst stated the meeting was an. information meeting on the
Master Plan Working Paper No. 1. Ernst introduced John Sanders and Freddie
Comperchio of Aries and Patty Sullivan Planning Engineer from the FAA, and
Debbie Roth of FAA Financing.
Patty Sullivan stated she was an airport planner/engineer for the FAA. Sullivan
stated she works with Ernst to assist in the development of the Master Plan and in
the incorporation of what comes out of the Master Plan in the Airport Capital
Improvement Program. Sullivan stated that is what the FAA uses to secure airport
improvement program funds for the airport. Sullivan explained that the Master Plan
is used to guide future development of the airport and it is an important, valuable
document. It is something that is used all the time in their office. Sullivan stated
she wanted to encourage everyone to participate in the process. Sullivan noted it
is important to get input from the users and the community. Sullivan stated it is
the community's airport so what comes out of the report will hopefully benefit
everyone and will be what the community wants. Sullivan encouraged those in
attendance to provide comments on the working papers that Aries will present.
Sullivan states those papers are the forecasts and the inventories. They are used
as the basis for the rest of the Master Plan, it is important to take time to look at
them and to provide input. They are the first step and are built on.
John Sanders of Aries Consultants explained that Aries is updating the 1 987
Master Plan which they were also involved with. Sanders stated they are doing the
airport planning portion of the work. But, there is a lot. of other work that is being
done that is a part of the study. Sanders stated they are doing the preliminary
engineering work and cost estimates for the study. Sanders advised that Phil
Bryson and Mark'Blanning of Wince, Corthell, Bryson are in attendance and they are
doing the engineering portion of the project.
Sanders stated that one of the first things they did was to obtain new aerial photos
of the airport and of the greater city area. These are being used as an accurate,
more up-to-date basis for the work that Wince, Corthell, Bryson are doing and being
used to make sure that the existing airport facilities are identified as best as
possible. Also, some contours have been developed from the aerial photos that will
help in making calculations that will be done during the study. Also, last summer
pavement testing was done to look at the condition of the existing runway and
taxiway system to find out the current conditions and what improvements need to
be made in the future. Sanders stated that later some environmental assessments
will be done. At least one for the improvements that will be identified in the Master
Plan that will be needed before the actual development can take place. One
improvement that has already been talked about is the extension of the taxiway out
to the north end of the runway. Sanders noted there may be other projects that
come out that are identified in the study that will also need environmental
assessments.
Sanders stated they are in the inventory and forecasting portion which is included
in the document that everyone has a copy of. Sanders stated this document will
serve as the basis for later parts of the study. After a sign off is received from the
city and FAA on the forecasts, those numbers will be used to compare activity
growth at the airport for the next 20 years against the existing facilities. This is
how future requirements are identified, such as additional runway improvements,
taxiway improvements, apron improvements, and what additional lease facilities in
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subdivision need to be identified. That is the second phase. Sanders stated then
they will be developing alternatives to see how these additional facilities can be
accommodated. That information will be brought back to the city and the city will
be given the opportunity to provide input on what they think should be planned or
developed for the airport over the next 20 years. Sanders added that FAA and
others will also be asked to provide input. After agreements are received, detailed
plans will be prepared. These plans will serve as the basis for the documentation
and is provided to FAA. FAA funds a lot of the improvements. Sanders stated he
likes to emphasize that the money that is used by the federal government for these
projects is not money that is paid by the general tax payer. This money is paid
when traveling and using the airport system and is the 10 percent passenger tax
and the other fees that are paid on tickets.
Sanders stated they will also develop an implementation plan and a phasing plan.
This plan will show how to get to what they think the airport should look like in 20
years. Sanders stated this plan will show what is thought to be the most important
projects that should be completed in the next five years, how much will they cost,
where is the money going to come from, etc. The same will be projected for the
ten year and twenty year plans. Sanders stated that they will come back with the
costs, drawings, and the implementation plan. Sanders noted that depending upon
what the top priorities are an environmental assessment will be completed for those
projects. Such as, expanding the taxiway out to the north end of the runway.
Sanders explained that this is the program that will be worked on over the next few
months. Sanders added that they will try to schedule the public meetings to
coincide with the Airport Commission meetings. Later, public hearings must be
held. Sanders stated that they have talked about having a joint public hearing with
the Airport and Planning and Zoning Commissions prior to the recommended plan
going to City Council for a public hearing. Sanders stated this is the informational
stage now but later they will have the properly noticed public hearings.
Sanders stated that he would like to report on the forecasts and existing facilities
as included in the document. Sanders offered background noting they have looked
at available historic and forecast population information that is available for the
Kenai area, the Kenai Peninsula Borough, the state, and for the nation to look at
growth trends that are being forecast for this area and how they compare to other
areas. Sanders stated they had tried to get forecasts for economic activities but
there don't seem to be any generally accepted for published forecasts that could be
used. Because of this, they have talked to people involved in economic
development or the airlines and other people who might have a feel for what might
be happening at the airport in the future.
Using the overhead, Sanders explained several charts from the Working Paper No. 1
document.
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The first chart summarized historical passenger activity for the last 1 5 years.
Sanders noted that between 1 981 and 1 989 the numbers went up and down.
Kenai started at about 87,000 enplane passengers and ended at the same number.
Sanders explained that an enplane passenger are the people getting on the flights in
Kenai and that generally there are an equal number of people getting off the flights.
In the last few years, and particularly in the last two years, the numbers have gone
up. Sanders stated he felt this was primarily due to the fare war that went on for
about a six or eight month period in 1994 and 1995. Kenai had 130,000 enplane
passengers last year which is a record for the airport. Sanders explained that most
of this activity is with commuter aircraft which range from the eight passenger
craft up to the 50 passenger aircraft. In the last few years, there has been a
significant increase in the number of passengers.
The next table showed the changes in the aircraft operations over the last ten
years. Sanders explained that air carrier showed a large number in 1 987 and it
decreased substantially after that. Sanders stated he thought that was due to a
definition change that the FAA went through in the way they counted the aircraft
operations. Sanders stated that at a lot of airports they counted the cOmmuter
aircraft as air carriers until the late 80's and then over time they switched and
counted the commuter aircraft in the commuter air taxi category. Sanders noted
that in recent years the chart shows relatively few air carrier operations. Those are
primarily the large aircraft that are used for the fish hauls that are capable of
carrying more than 60 passengers and the aircraft that are diverted from Anchorage
are in this count. Sanders explained that the commuter air taxis which is a mixture
of activity that includes the scheduled commuter flights, small packet flights such
as DHL and Federal Express, and the unscheduled flights whether they be air taxis
carrying passengers or freight and fixed-wing helicopters. These numbers are
based on tower counts. Sanders noted that the Kenai tower is open from 6 a.m. to
10 p.m. Looking at scheduled flights, there are a lot of flights that take place
outside of those areas. Aries adjusted for the forecast which makes the 33,000
become about 41,000 per year looking at a full 24 hour day. Sanders stated that
future projections are made using the total number rather than just the numbers
listed when the tower is open. The general aviation numbers are listed in two
columns. The itinerant operations are basically the aircraft flying away from the
Kenai area or back to Kenai and the local operations which are training operations.
Training operations are about 55% of the general aviation total. General aviation is
private flying whether for business, recreational or training activities and are
typically included in this area. The military shows little activity in Kenai. Each
landing and take off is counted as a separate operation. Sanders explained that
when you fly to Anchorage and back that is counted as two operations. Touch and
goes are also counted as two operations by the tower. Sanders stated the final
count is about 78,000 operations last year as counted by the tower. When looking
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at the full 24 hour period, Aries guesses it is closer to 86,000 to 87,000 operations
in the year.
Sanders stated another area that is forecast is based aircraft. These are the aircraft
that are physically based at the Kenai airport. Aries got this information from the
Borough. About 11% of the aircraft in the Borough are based at the Kenai Airport.
Addresses of this 11% show that 73% of these people live in Kenai, 9% live in
Soldotna, 8% in Nikiski, and the balance in other communities in the area. Sanders
stated the number of based aircraft has remained steady over the past years.
Sanders stated that they had also tried to break down operations between the main
runway, the float pond, and the grass strip. Sanders said the tower estimates that
of the general aviation numbers about 3% of the operations are on the grass strip in
the summer and slightly over 3% are on the float pond.
Sanders reported that the base year used was 1995. Looking at annual enplane
passengers, there is modest growth. Sanders stated they believed that the last
year had been a result of the price competition. Sanders stated they see the
number of passengers increasing from about 1 30,000 to 1 70,000 passengers over
the 20 year period. Scheduled aircraft departures show a very modest increase,
from 1 2,000 in 1 995 to 14,000 in the year 201 5. Sanders stated they believed
the reason for that is that there will be the same type of service as is available
now, primarily the commuter service. Sanders explained that this type of service
provides frequent flights with less passengers than using larger aircraft which
operate less flights but hold more people and people seem to prefer the frequent
flights. Sanders stated they expect to see more Dash 8 and Convair service over
time and also expect the number of passengers per flight to increase. At the
current time it is about a 50% load factor. Sanders reiterated they do not expect
to see a tremendous increase in the number of flights but more larger aircraft over
time to handle the passengers.
Sanders explained that with the air cargo figures that not all of this is being
reported. Sanders stated this is not unique to Kenai. This affects the projection
forecasts. Sanders stated that there is a need to get a better handle on the cargo
which goes through the airport whether it be cargo on passenger aircraft, cargo
that is handled in the air taxi aircraft, as well as some of the bulk hauling.
Sanders continued, in terms of aircraft operations, which shows 78,000 in 1 995,
Aries projects about a 20 percent increase to about 105,000 operations by the year
201 5. Air carrier does not show any change. Commuter air taxi is seen as
growing because of the scheduled flights and the package service. General aviation
has been suffering in recent years. There are indicators that this may change in the
next few years with changes in product liability law and changes in fact that people
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will be manufacturing aircraft again. Thus, some change is shown in the general
aviation activity.
Sanders explained that in terms of the based aircraft, approximately 75 percent are
single engine and 1 8 percent multi-engine, and the other 8 percent are helicopters.
Sanders stated they see most of the growth in the multi-engine aircraft in the
future. This is attributed to manufacture of this type of craft.
Sanders stated he would like to talk briefly about existing facilities and then they
would be open for questions.
Sanders explained that they had made a comparison with previous forecasts that
had been made for the airport. Using the overhead, Sanders explained a chart they
had made showing these comparisons.
Sanders stated they have been working to try to get an accurate inventory of
existing airport facilities. Using a map, Sanders showed the airport land boundaries
and stated it includes about 1 200 acres. Sanders showed the main runway that is
over 7500 feet, the float pond which is 3500 feet, and the grass strip of about
1 000 feet.
Sanders showed a chart of the terminal area and explained they will be looking at
the forecasts to see how they relate to the existing facilities. From the passengers
standpoint, is there enough space in the terminal apron to handle the commuter
aircraft, is there enough space in the terminal building to handle ticketing, baggage
claim and other activities that are needed to handle passengers. Based on aircraft
operations forecasts and looking at other airport improvements, they will be looking
at relocating the grass strip, looking to see if there is enough space in the general
aviation subdivisions to the south and to the north of the terminal area and possibly
lease lots for other activities that may want to come on the airport. Sanders stated
the next part of the study is to relate those numbers to these existing facilities and
then come up with the future requirements. Sanders, referring to a chart of the
terminal, stated there is quite a bit of space with the loss of a carrier, but forecasts
must be compared with current facilities.
Sanders asked the audience if they had any questions.
Knackstedt asked if there was an estimate on the error factor for the FAA's number
of aircraft arriving or departing. Knackstedt stated the reason he asked the
question is he wondered if it is a guesstimate or an exact number. Also noted that
he noticed that the total aircraft of a particular category that arrived in 1 989 was
51 but for that year it was 80 for instrument. Knackstedt asked if instrument
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operations were a missed approach which would explain the difference and
wondered how that affected the other numbers.
Jim Krause, FAA, explained that every time a plane takes off or lands'it is counted
by a clicker. Krause explained how the FAA counts flights and feels it is fairly
accurate. Krause did note that one chart shows that in 1 987 there was a fairly
large number of air carriers and then it fell off to nothing. Krause stated he felt that
Mr. Sanders' explanation was true and that they were not being counted correctly.
For instance, they were counting a Dash 8 as an air carrier when it should have
been an air taxi aircraft. Krause stated that the difference in the numbers in 1 989
could be accounted for by multiple approaches, such as practice approaches. This
would be an instrument count and not necessarily an operation. Krause noted he
felt the numbers shown represented fairly what was occurring at the airport.
Krause explained what he felt accounted for the numbers given, the decline
occurring when Southcentral pulled out in 1 992. Now they are back again but they
don't have as many flights as before. Krause said he expects the numbers to level
out and maybe start a slow growth upward. Ernst stated some of this may be
attributed to a more efficient loading of planes, less operations but higher
enplanements. Basically what is happening is that they are filling the planes more
efficiently. Krause added there has been a subtle change'in the last year and a half
or so with ERA coming in with the bigger planes; however, the frequency of the
flights don't seem to have changed. But, instead of coming in with a twin otter,
every once in a while they come in with a Dash 8. Thus, operations are not
increasing but enplanements are increasing.
Krause stated that he wanted to mention that the military numbers were fairly
stagnant over the years. One of the reasons for the military using Kenai was they
were being chased out of the Anchorage area and Anchorage Airport and because
of this these numbers may increase. Sanders stated it is very difficult to get any
kind of handle on what the military is going to do. (Discussion on how the numbers
had varied over the years.) Mayor Williams stated that Kenai had picked up the air
rescue crew three or four years ago and picked up a couple new C1 30's along with
this. Williams stated the Air Guard is more frequent with practice missions than
the Air Force was. This could be the reason for the increase in figures. Sanders
reiterated it is difficult to obtain information from the military because they don't
know what they are doing.
Knackstedt questioned the figure of 73 percent of the aircraft on the peninsula
being owned by people who live in Kenai. Sanders clarified that the 73 percent
was for aircraft based at the Kenai Airport whose owners have a city of Kenai
address. Sanders explained further that out of 900 aircraft that are registered
according to the Borough Assessor's Office, 100 are based at the Kenai Airport.
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Sanders told the group that they would like to talk to Flight Service after the
meeting to assure they are getting as good an estimate as possible for the study.
Sanders stated that Aries would like any comments or questions to Ernst in the
next couple weeks so the next phase of the study could move forward. Sanders
added that the next meeting on the evaluation, the requirements, and the
alternatives would be scheduled to coincide with one of the meetings in the late
spring or early summer. Sanders noted the other thing they needed was a sign off
from the FAA on the forecasts and were looking forward to FAA's (Sullivan's)
response to that document.
Ernst commented that when looking at the float plane facility as far as forecasts
and the considering the possibility of extending the runway 500 feet, he wondered
if the tower's help could be received to get a count on the usage. FAA tower
representative stated that they don't keep a count for that facility but they did one
summer. Mayor Williams stated that a lot of thought went into the facility before it
was built. Since that time a lot of complaints have been made that the runway
isn't long enough and it should be extended another 500 feet. Williams stated he
felt that the question the council would look at is the number of float plane
operations declining, can an increase be expected, and would an increase be
expected if the runway was extended. Williams stated that without accurate
counts not much can be done and asked if there was any way possible the city
could get counts on the float planes over the next couple years. The FAA
representative stated that it was done that one year and didn't see why it couldn't
be done again. Sanders stated they have been able to do that in other situations
and gave an example of another .place where a count was needed for helicopters.
Ernst asked if they could donate an eXtra clicker for the counts.
Sanders~'noted that they had received quite a few comments on the float plane
operations in terms of people preferring to use area lakes because it was more
convenient. Aries representative Comperchio stated that the people she talked to
stated it was easier to use their own lakes and docks rather than to come into the
airport. The only thing that they needed was some type of fueling facility. In
terms of basing, Comperchio stated that is probably why the airport doesn't have a
lot of basing for float planes in the summer because people are basing at their
homes. Ernst stated that this year there may be an increase because the automatic
fuel system will be on line. Knackstedt added that a camping area was being
created at the south end of the float plane basin which is not shown on the
inventory. Sanders questioned the location of this facility and was shown on the
map. Ernst stated it would be a small area and they are starting with six spaces
with picnic tables, grills, and water may be available. Sanders stated another
reason people cited was that they don't want to get into the air traffic control
system. The FAA spokesman stated that would not surprise him and that is the
reason for Soldotna Airport's popularity. In addition, people being able to use their
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own lake and parking at home plus not having to deal with ATC added to the float
plane facility's problems. He commented that it was a great facility in comparison
with that at Lake Hood which is over crowded. Ernst stated the facility has been
advertised. Thibodeau stated that he feels that as tourism grows and the people
who live on lakes get tired of the air taxis, there will be an interest by air taxis to
use the facility to avoid problems with the residents who live around the lakes.
Depending on how the float plane basin is developed and how friendly it is for air
taxis to operate out of, it makes sense that they will move there as tourism grows.
Thibodeau stated there are some things that could be addressed to improve the
float plane facility so that it would attract those air taxis. Thibodeau commented
with tourism growing it seemed to him that the float plane facility would be a
natural outgrowth of tourism. Holloway added that his store has been selected as
the Alaskan stopping place for the largest west coast travel agency for hunting and
fishing. Holloway noted they had just signed an agreement in the last few days.
This .will be with Reno Air who will have three.flights a day into Anchorage.
Holloway stated it will affect them because they have a tremendous amount of fly
outs from their shop. Holloway stated that he feels this will be a stimulus to
growth in this area. Holloway added that he felt if there was lighting on the basin
it may look more attractive to night flights. Sanders questioned how people would
be brought to the Peninsula. Holloway stated they would either be flown in or
renting cars in Anchorage. Sanders noted this would be an added benefit to the
airport.
Knackstedt stated he felt an advantage that International and Lake Hood have is
that you can taxi on wheels anywhere on the airport. You cannot do that in Kenai.
Knackstedt noted that the previous airport plan showed FBO's on the west side of
the float plane basin. Knackstedt stated he doesn't see that happening unless
planes can taxi over there. Knackstedt explained how an extension of Alpha
runway could allow access to the area for future FBO's and the float plane camping
area. Sanders questioned how they saw the camping area being used. Ernst
stated people could tie down in the itinerant slips and then have an area to spend
the night. Thibodeau stated that a lot of people fly up from the states and are
looking for a friendly place to go to and this could bring in more tourism into the
area.
Knackstedt asked if there was a place they were thinking of moving the grass strip
to? Sanders stated one place has been considered on the northeast side. Ernst
stated that once the taxiway extension is done which is on the books to start
construction in 1 997, the stockpile on the east side would be used. That area is
approximately 1 200 feet long by 400 feet wide which would make an ideal place to
put in a grass strip. It doesn't circumnavigate the taxiways and it is wide enough
you could have a tie down parking area. There would be road access off of
Marathon Road. That would entail bringing the road in. Ernst showed the audience
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on the map how this would be accomplished. Holland added that it could also be
used for skis. Ernst stated right now people are allowed to use the parking area at
the basin as a ski landing area at their own risk. Ernst added the airport does not
have the time or the equipment to maintain the area. FAA spokesman stated that
would be good potential to bring in more operations with a dedicated area away
from the taxiways that can be used for skis. He added there is a demand for an
area for people who want to use skis.
Sanders thanked everyone for coming and the input. Sanders reminded everyone to
get their comments to Ernst in the next couple weeks.
Ernst commented that this is the first informational meeting for the Master Plan and
as it progresses advertisements will be in the paper. There will be more information
meetings and then there will be public hearings. Ernst noted this is about a three
year process. Ernst noted that the Working Document No. 1 must be signed off by
the FAA as far as the forecast information. Once the forecasts are accepted, they
can start on the pavement management plan. Ernst noted that they have all the
data but until the forecasts are approved, they cannot finish that plan.
a. RFP for Advertising Concession
Ernst explained that at the last meeting he had presented information about an
advertising plan for the airport. However, because there was not a quorum, it
could not be voted on. The information was presented to Council and they
recommended an RFP be put out. Ernst explained that in the Commission packets
is a copy of the proposed RFP which requests a statement of interests and
qualifications. The advertising will be more expensive for the general public but will
generate more money for the airport. The airport currently makes approximately
$8,400 per year and under the proposed plan would make about $30,000 per year.
Ernst advised he knew of two firms he would send the RFP to directly and it would
also be advertised locally and in Anchorage. Ernst stated he would like the
Commission to se~ up a committee to review the RFP's that are received. Then,
after a decision is made, it would be taken back to Council for their approval.
RON HOLLOWAY MOVED TO ADVERTISE THE RFP AS PRESENTED BY ERNST.
MOTION SECONDED BY TOM THIBODEAU. UNANIMOUS.
Ernst stated that he would proceed and hopes to get a contract before June 30th as
that is when the current contracts end.
Ron Holloway and Barbara Edwards volunteered to serve on the committee to
review the RFP's that are received.
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7. Airport Manager's Report
Ernst asked that any comments on the presentation be given to him and preferably
in writing.
8. Commission Comments and Questions
9. Information Items
a. Airport Commission Roster
Ron Holloway noted his home number is incorrect. It should read 283-2639.
b. Bielefeld Appointment Letter
10. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 8 p.m.
Respe~,tfully,, submitted'
Ma~ril~ Kebschull
Administrative Assistant
Airport Commission
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