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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-11-18 Beautification Summary - Joint Work SessionBEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE MEMORIAL PARK COMITTEE November 18, 1986 Kenai City Hall Tim Wisniewski, Chairman WORK SESSION AGENDA 1. ROLL CALL 2. REVISION OF MEMORIAL PARK DESIGN Carmen Gintoli, Architect 3. APPROVE SIGNAGE FOR MEMORIAL PARK 4. APPROVAL OF DESIGN FOR AIRPORT TRIANGE PARK 5. ORDER FLOWERS FOR SPRING *Mr. Gunther unable to attend this meeting. He would be able to attend the next regular meeting, November 25th. 6. COMMITTEE COMMENTS & QUESTIONS 7. ADJOURNMENT BEAUTIFICATION COMM I TTE E/MEMORI AL PARK COMMITTEE Minutes on Work Session Held, Kenai City Hall, Conference Room Presiding: Tuesday, November 18, 1986, 12:00 noon, AST Tim Wisniewski, Chairman, Beautification Committee Present , , Tim Wisniewski Lil Hakkinen Roseanna Sheldon Memorial Park Committee Absent _ Phyllis Hildebrandt Glen Jackson Marian Nelson N ina Selby Marj O'Reilly ) Presen.t Roseanna Sheldon Tim Wisniewski Absent Sally Bailie Dr. Hanson Koralee Hanson Chris Monfor Pat Porter In attendance: Kayo McGillivray, Director of Parks Carmen Gintoli, Architect; Suzanne Little; Dick Loper, Planning Specialist. & Recreation; Boyson; Janet · OFF THE ROAD VEHICLES Informal discussion was held regarding off the road vehicles while waiting for Chairman Wisniewski to arrive. Chairman Wisniewski had called to say he would be a. few minutes late in arriving. Director McGillivray said that he had Ross regarding off the road vehicles Ross indicated to him that he has no control over the road vehicles without an ordinance. That point stressed to Council. However, in the ordinance, as now, it goes into special stops required, etc., and infers it would be alright to ride vehicles in City. talked with Chief in the City. Chief off was is it the BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE/MEMORIAL COMMITTEE November 18, 1986 · Basically, it would need to be given to the attorney or whoever is writing up the ordinance, to clean it up to where everything is covered. It was asked if he had a copy of the Soldotna Ordinance, as Soldotna's ordinance seems to be working. Director McGillivray has talked with Chief Udland of Soldotna, about the state highway right of way. Chief Udland told him they stopped off the road vehicles on the right of way, as the State Highways Department has indicated if it is in the City, it is regulated by City Ordinance. However, it could be challenged in Court. The right of way was discussed further, as it seems to be a problem. Director McGillivray is going to meet with the City Manager and City Attorney to see how they want to handle it to see that all areas are covered. Committee member Sheldon asked if this committee would object if it was put to Council that the ordinance needs further work and that it be taken off the agenda until completed. It was further discussed how to address the content. Specialist Loper indicated that this committee has made its recommendation and intent. It can now go into the hands of the committee, where it will go to Council in December. Specialist Loper indicated Kayo would like the City Attorney to look at it before it's adopted. Chairman Wisniewski arrived at this time. Specialist Loper advised him of the discussion and the recommendation by the Police Chief, that there were parts of the ordinance that didn't fit with the changes that were requested. It would probably be pulled off the Council Agenda and they would have the attorney revise it. Chairman Wisniewski asked if the Police Chief saw any problem with that. REVISION OF MEMORIAL PARK DESIGN Carmen Gintoli/Architect. Mr. Gintoli said that the drawings are finished. He also indicated that berms were discussed last week and Mr. Gintoli pointed out page -2- BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE/MEMORIAL PARK COMMITTEE November 18, 1986 · · what was done in regards to berms on the blue lines posted on wall. Park outline was discussed and blue lines demonstrated by Mr. Gintoli with regard to the fill use intended for under the walks and under the fountain. Plans are to stock pile fill to create berms. Locations of plaques for the walks, gazebo and fountain were shown. The fountain has been provided with stones and a concrete walk-way around it. Further visual demonstration was made. Chairman Wisniewski asked if he had a rough estimate. Mr. Gintoli indicated $3,000.00. SIGN Chairman Wisniewski asked if the sign was approved. It was answered in the affirmative. It was decided to be double sided. Mr. Gintoli indicated that these were the working drawings and are ready to go to bid, and that by the end of the week, hopefully, specifications will be ready. FOUNTAIN ,,, Chairman Wisniewski asked if there were specs on the fountain. Mr. Gintoli gave visual information on fountain pointing to the blue line drawings on board. It will have a ring of nozzles, raised up towards the center and cascades down, eight to twelve foot high, and thirty inches in diameter. There's a pool that is five feet at the base area to catch the water. Shut off value and drain area was shown and discussed. Level of water would be eighteen inches deep. Chairman Wisniewski asked about liability with standing water. Suzanne Little indicated that this could be solved by a grate. Mr. Gintoli said that a steel grate below nozzles could be added. Discussion was held regarding water level and any problems that may arise. Also discussed, was the addition of a structure to house the electric panel and meter. H.E.A. will also be taking overhead electric line out. Cost of electricity by H.E.A. was discussed and estimated to be around $28.00 to $30.00 per month. page -3- BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE/MEMORIAL PARK COMMITTEE November 18, 1986 5. FLAGPOLE Mr. Gintoli stated that the flagpole was the only thing that was not put in because it was not in the budget. Chairman Wisniewski stated that Nina was going to get one. 6. GAZEBO Mr. Gintoli reported that a gazebo was designed here, and would be put together and made here. An alternate pre-manufactured gazebo is available in the event that there is a possible problem with the budget. It's smaller, doesn't have segment level roof and all the seating around the exterior. Specialist Loper asked if committee would like to send approval of design to Council. It was discussed and decided that the committee would like to share with the Council what has been shown. Mr. Gintoli said that he would go to the Council meeting and take drawings with him if there is any questions. Director McGillivray indicated Council has approved the concept of the Memorial Park and have appropriated an amount of dollars; so basically, it needs to be shown to Council where we are on the Memorial Park. 7. BANNER Banner design was discussed and shown by Suzanne Little. Suzanne indicated it was to resemble the Russian Orthodox Church, waves in the ocean, background would be white, with some salmon and an oil rig. Colors would be very bright. Chairman Wisniewski indicated comments he has heard that it was sort of abstract. The idea incorporates everything that represents Kenai, but he was not sure of layout. Discussion was held regarding costs. Specialist Loper suggested designs would have to be sent to companies for pricing. Suzanne said that she has a friend in Homer that makes banners. Chairman Wisniewski stated that the committee could not accept anything until we had a quorum. Suzanne said that she would put together some figures. page -4- BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE/MEMORIAL PARK November 18, 1986 COMMITTEE · It was further discussed on appropriate 'action to take at this time as to designs, bid and location of banners. Committee would like to see the work of person in Homer. Suzanne would volunteer to work on other design ideas for committee to see and to contact person in Homer about showing some of her work to this Committee. Committee 'member Sheldon would like to see at least three designs. Suzanne said she would have something ready for the January meeting. AIRPORT TRIANGLE PARK Dick Boyson reported on changes in park design with graduated levels using railroad ties. Chairman Wisniewski asked if the only hold up was having enough fill. Mr. Boyson stated that Tom Waggoner said there was enough fill on his property adjacent that would probably make the balance for grading and also has some second growth trees to incorporate into it. It was brought up consider shrubs that plants that considered. for discussion by Specialist Loper to vs trees and grass. Mr. Boyson said resist salt action should be also be Specialist Loper brought to the attention of the committee, a Mr. Gunther who has opened a new nursery and approached this group about having an area to plant. Mr. Gunther would like the committee to provide the money and he would provide plants, to allow him to show what he can do. Mr. Boyson added that park should be a visual vocal point, not a traffic vocal point. Wanted people to look at it, and perhaps a welcome sign. Flowers might work out were he could do the planting with the Welcome to Kenai sign, along with rocks. Chairman Wisnieswki addressed the time element and when would Mr. Boyson be done and landscaping begin. He indicated flowers could be planted in June, wi th consideration to when break-up would end. page -5- BEAUTIFICATION CO MM I TTE E/MEMO RI AL November 18, 1986 PARK COMMITTEE Chairman Wisnieswki suggested that we might consider giving Mr. Gunther an overlay of what we're looking at and he could give the committee a proposal and add maintenance into that. It was indicated that Mr.Gunther would be at the meeting of the 25th. Committee member Sheldon asked about how berm is set up and if plants have enough protection. Mr. Boyson indicated they should be alright, as long as they are set back far enough. Some are a little too close to the road, and there are trails going into center that ought to be excluded. Committee member Sheldon was concerned about people going into circle and thought it should be strictly visual. Entrance, vocal point, pedestrian traffic and design was discussed. Director McGillivray wanted to address the purchase of flowers in regards to the other nursery businesses in the Kenai area. Discussion was held as to how to solve the competition problem, to allow all nurseries interested, an opportunity to be considered. This will be brought up at the next meeting to establish guidelines. It was agreed to wait until January to talk with other nurseries and then award it at that time. Discussion on having benches around outside park was brought up. Chairman Wisniewski suggested discussed at the meeting next week. area it be Committee member Sheldon stressed the importance of hardy plants and shrubs for Alaska weather. Mr. Boyson indicated that a Mr. Clatt in Anchorage grows plants from seed and has plants that are very hardy. He could be contacted for some information on the type of plants needed and a price list. 9. PLAQUES It was brought up merchants regarding wait for the report that Glen was to approach local the plaques. It was suggested to from Glen. page -6- BEAUTIFICATION COMMITTEE/MEMORIAL PARK COMMITTEE November 18, 1986 10. CHRISTMAS DECORATIONS Chairman Wisniewski was concerned about when the Christmas decorations would be put up. Specialist Loper said that Keith assured her there would not be any problem. They would be put up before Thanksgiving. 11. BUDGETED MONEY Chairman Wisniewski asked how much was plants in triangle. Councilwomen Bailie into that. Also, Keith was to find out left over from the Construction budget. Bail ie would be at next meeting. budgeted for was to look how much was Councilwomen ADJOURNMENT: ,,, Meeting adjourned at 1: 30 Novem..ber 25 th, 1986, .... Tuesday, pm. Next meeting at 12 noon. will be held on Ni va-" A. Abut t o ......................... dba/Niva's Clerical Services for the City of Kenai page -7-