HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-10-07 Harbor Commission SummaryKENAI HARBOR COMMISSION
~oP. O. Box 580
Kenai, Alaska 99611
AGENDA - October 7, 1980
REGULAR HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING:
HARBOR COMMISSION MEMBERS:
October 7, 1980- 7:00 p.m.
Kenai Public Safety Building
Robert Peterkin, Chairman
John Williams, Vice-Chairman
Tom Ackerly
Tom Wagoner
W. M. Burnett
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Ron Issacs
Marvin Dragseth
EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS:
Betty Glick, Councilwoman
Mayor Vincent O' Reilly
A-G-E-N-D-A
A. Call to Order
B. Roll Call
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Agenda Approval
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Approval of Minutes (.none
E. Introduction of Guests
F. Communications
1. Administrative Coordinator Memorandum
2. Letter to Dept. of the Interior
3. Letter to Mr. Roper
G. Reports
from City Administration
1. Gary Davis
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Mayor O'Reilly
H. Old Business
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Selection Administrati~ Coordinator
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Governor's Boards & Commissions Vacancy List
AGENDA - OCTOBER~ 7, 1980
I. New Business ..... -~ ...........
J. Persons Present Not Scheflul~d to be
Kenai Advisory Harbor Commission
Regular Meeting, October 7, 19 80
Kenai. Public Safety Building
Robert Peterkin, Chairman
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Peterkin called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
'ROLL CALL
Present: Chairman Robert
Commissioner Tom Wagoner,
Tom Ackerly, Commissioner
Peterkin, Vice-Chairman
Commissioner Ron Issacs,
Marvin Dragseth.
John Williams,
Comm is si o ne r
Others Present: Mayor O'~Reilly, Wm. J. Brighton, and Gary Davis.
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AGENDA APPROVAL
H. 3. Selection of an Engineering Firm (Addition)
H. 4. Corps of Engineers (Addition)
I. 1. Possible statements to be prepared for Clarion. (Addition)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the Special Meeting of September 27, and the
minutes of the Regular Mee~ting of SePtember 30 were not completed
at this time.
~INTRODUCTION OF
GUESTS
There were no guests present.
COMMUNi.CAT IONS
1. Mr. Davis referred to his memorandum in the packet.
explained he has revieWed Phase 1 of the Borough Coastal
Management Program and the Executive Summary.. There are
things to the City included. He stated he would like to
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contract recommended for the Administrative Coordinator in view
of harbor activities. There are things that are important that
could be done by the Coordinator.
.Chairman Peterkin asked when Mr. Davis' contract was up.
Mr. Davis stated it began Sept. 26, it would end Nov. 26.
F. 2. The letter to the Dept. of the Tnterior was discussed. Mr.
Davis reported he stopped by.the Customs Office for Port of Entry
in Anchorage with no result.
Chairman Peterkin stated the most important part of the l'etter
was "What this effectively means is that ports of entry are
established through the political process." He indicated
possibly we should shift it to Ted Stevens.
Commissioner Wagoner suggested shifting it to Mike Gravel.
Mr. Davis suggested indicating to both of them our need for
assistance.
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Chairman Peterkin suggested Mr. Davis send a letter to Mike
Gravel and Ted Stevens. Perhaps an outline should be included
.with gasoline and fuel costs and the way fuel is handled.
Commissioner Williams stated perhaps the number of foreign ships
calling~in Nikiski that need a Port of Entry could be included.
Chairman Peterkin felt that was a good idea. He pointed out
everytime a foreign ship comes in there are four agents that must
come dOwn from Anchorage. They include a representa'tive of
Immigration, Agriculture, and a health official. The oil
companies have to pay for this. ~
Commissioner Wagoner suggested Mr. Davis contact Larry Porter at
Phillips.
F. 3. ~Chairman Peterkin asked if anyone had comments on the letter
to Mr. Roper. Mr. Brighton reported he received a telephone
~call "~from Rick Baldwin. He informed Mr. Brighton that Mr. Roper
has engaged him as his attorney. Basically, he informed Mr.
Brighton there will be some negotiations down the road.
G. 1. Mr. Davis reported the City has been receiving more letters
from the State and Federal agencies responding to the
Comprehensive Plan. The COE's response was the COE's authority
under Section 10 of the River and Harbor Act of 1899 is on
navigable waters. Their authority under 404 is on navigable
waters which is further defined as waters of the U. S. which are
· navigable waters by legal definition. Senator Towers of Texas
has submitted a bill to clarify COE jurisdiction.
Mr. Davis stated he had held off on any P.O.'s for Pacific
Northwest Waterways Association.
MOTioN
Commissioner Wagoner moved, seconded by Commissioner Williams
that Gary Davis proCeed with procurement of the necessary plane
tickets and reservations for himself and the Chairman of the
Harbor Commission tomorrow to get in on the Supersaver.
There was discussion and a roll call vote. The motion passed
unanimously.
Mr. Davis report.ed he has been reviewing the Borough Coastal
Management Program. One area very important to the City is Areas
Meriting Special Attention. In the Borough's Plan, Fish &
Wildlife isn't included. Fish & Game has snow geese areas
included. Mr. Davis .stated there are some areas that need some
response. One is the bluff erosion problem. Bluff erosion is
addressed in the Coastal Zone Management act under Hazardous
Areas. Also, there is a chapter dealing with historical values.
Old Kenai Townsite is of major historical, economical and
residential values. There may be some avenue for specific
funding for studies on the bluff. Mr. Davis reported he had not
called Murray Walsh to see how it fits with the current OCM
Grant. The current grant does address the Borough's Coastal
Management Program. It states that one of the work tasks is a
monthly summary of work accomplishments inclu~ding active summarz
of participation in the Kenai Peninsula Coastal Development
Program. Mr. Davis stated the contract for the Administrative
Coordinator is quite general and allows for the coordinator to
spend quite a bit of time in covering the City's interests.
There may be a need for additional funds and for technical
engineering studies.
Chairman Peterkin asked Mr. Davis if he had a chance to talk to
the Borough about our participation in CZM at the City level
versus Borough level.
Mr. Davis replied no. Mr. Davis explained Kramer, Chin & Mayo
have a contract with the Borough for Phase 2 of the Kenai
Peninsula Coastal Development Program.
· Chairman Peterkin suggested Mr. Davis contact Kramer, Chin & Mayo
.and see if we can get a meeting with them.
Mr. Davis stated the initial step is to fill out the Questions &
Comments sheet they distributed. He had been going through their
plan and had come up with recommendations for the City to pass on
to them. In Chapter One, they quote from ~Woodward Clyde. They
have no new input. Woodward Clyde skirted the whole Kenai area.
Some definite inclusions are needed to evaluate the small boat
harbor, port and the Kenai River. Under Economic Resources &
Activities, subtitle Recreation & Tourism it says Kenai has the
local intrastructure to accomodate tourism and recreation. There
is some evident resource activity and impact. Those were just -
two areas. Mr. Davis stated he would find more and bring to the
Harbor Commission's attention.
Commissioner Williams stated he would like Mr. Davis to pursue
the investigation for further funding for study on the bluff.
There has been some further subsidence of that bluff along Willow
Street. There could be a small creek there. Commission Williams
said if it continues at the present rate it could go out to the
pavement within 24 months.
There were other examples stated of bluff erosion.
G. 1.Mayor O'Reilly asked when the next Harbor Commission would be.
Chairman Peterkin reported the 21st.
There was some discussion and Chairman Peterkin changed the next
meeting to October 28th.
Mayor O'Reilly stated he felt a responsibility towards the small
boat harbor. He spoke on the enthusiam in going for State
funding, his convictions and the Commission's. He felt the
initiation of solving the problem is in the wrong hands. He felt
the City should do some thing.
Chairman Peterkin called a recess.
Mayor O'Reilly reported representatives of DOW would be here
October 23 & 24th.
Mr. Brighton asked if the bond money from Juneau can be used, for
example, buying back leases.
Chairman Peterkin stated he would be getting to that later ~in the
meeting under Old Business. He would answer that question at
that time.
H. 1. Chairman Peterkin, in refe.rring to the Administrative Coordinator
position, stated he felt it was indispensible to keep up with the
Federal, State and Borough participation for representation for
the City of Kenai and the intenseness of PaPerwork. He felt the
Comm.ission should follow through and put it in an adfinitive
sense to the City Council.
Commissioner Williams stated when we originally approached Murray
Walsh to fund this administrative portion of this work, three of
the areas were AMSA, CZM, and Wetlands.
Commissioner Ackerly asked Mr. Davis the status of~the 80-20
Grant.
Mr. Davis reported the City .has pre-accepted the grant from the
Borough when the Borough accepts it. The total amount of the
grant is $64,000. The Borough's share is $51,200 and the City's
share is $12,800. That will be reduced by one-tenth. The City's
share will come from the Harbor Commission's operating budget
funded by the City Council.
Commissioner Williams noted that not one dime of the $500,000 has
been spent.
Chairman Peterkin pointed out the Commission has not selected an
Administrative Coordinator.
MOTION
Commissioner Williams moved, seconded by Commissioner Issacs, a
recommendation be sent to the City Council indicating the Harbor
Commission has selected from the available applicants, Mr. Gary
Davis,-to be the Administrative Coordinator, and requests that
they act in having the contract prepared.
There was some discussion. Mr. Brighton reported the other party
had since written a letter withdrawing their interest.
There was a roll call vote. The motion passed unanimously.
H. 2. Chairman Peterkin stated the Governor's Boards & Commissions
Vacancy~ List would be discussed at the uctober 28th meeting.
H. 3. Chairman Peterkin asked the Commission if they would like to
select an engineering firm and further have that engineering firm
go to work immediately. The City of Kenai has had money in
Juneau since 1974. The major problem with this money is that it
takes an engineering firm to do the study to spend the money. We
should come up with a design for a greenbelt, etc. for Tract A.
It will make that $500,000 - $600,000 available. He suggested
the Admin. Coordinator could contact either BLM and/or Don
Statter's office and clarify whether that money can be used to
purchase property. He further recommended the Admin. Coordinator
or a subcommittee into negotiations with the Coyles for 30 - 40
acres above -~-ract A. It is a superb piece of land that should be
looked at immediately.
Commissioner Williams stated he believed in the concept, and the
Commission has talked about the acquisition of lands for
· development of an industrial park. He stated if the harbor is
built where private enterprise has designed it, it only lends
more emphasis of development of a private park by private
enterprise.
Chairman Peterkin called for a recess.
Chairman Peterkin asked for the Commission's feelings as far as
deciding on the engineering firm, and having them proceed as
scheduled.
Mr. Brighton stated the Council will have to have some more
conversation among themselves and change the direction in the way
they are going. They are of the opinion we have ceased any
decision as far as a small boat harbor.
Commissioner Issacs felt the Council must make some decision on
the negotiations first.
Chairman Peterkin stated we have had the money in Juneau since
1974 and must have it surveyed and a feasibility study done to
free that bond money.
Mr. Davis reported some of the firms have asked what the
selection criteria was and where they came out in the tally. He
suggested ranking them. If nothing is done for six months they
might not be interested anymore.
Chairman Peterkin stated what he was pressing for was to free the
other 1/2 million- Whether or no't the negotiations with Mr.
Roper proceed or not we need t° free that money if for nothing
else for a greenbelt or for a place for people to launch their
boats.
Commissioner Ackerly asked if we select an engineering firm and
ask them to go to work, wouldn't we ~have to ask for an amendment
to the bids?
Chairman Peterkin replied no. The first selection, includes the
whole packet of lands.
Commissioner Ackerly stated we are asking them to study a small
boat harbor, bluff erosion, can we come back and ask them about
recreation. He thought it might be out of scope.
Chairman Peterkin said the $500,000 - $600,000 is to develop a
boat harbor for the City of Kenai. That is exactly what it would
do. We have made several unsuccessful at. tempts for over a year.
They keep telling us you have to have an engineers report to do
it.
Commissioner Wagoner asked how extensive it would have to be.
Mr. Davis explained it would be a feasibility study. There would
be 'no detailed drawings, testing or soils investigation. It will
be a feasibility to determine public need for the facility.
Commissioner Wagoner stated we have a report that says we have
the public need. Take the COE Windshield study and ask for the
money.
Commissioner Williams stated we must remember when they wrote the
bond issue, they wrote it to issue monies for construction not
for design. The Legislature has since recognized that error and
in future bond issues they've compensated for that. We needed to
get the money for the design so we could get the other part. He
was not sure they would accept the COE Windshield Survey or the
Wince-Corthell-Bryson & Freas study.
Commissioner Wagoner stated if We have enough information to get
that $585,000 loose he was not in favor of sponding more.
Chairman Peterkin asked if.the money was tied directly to Tract
A.
Commissioner Williams said no.
Mr. Davis stated the money could be used for lots of things. For
example, land acquisitio~n, docking facilities, wharves, boat
launching faclities, boat ramp facilities and floats inside the
harbor.
Mr. Davis stated between himself and compiling the Wince-Corthell
and COE Windshield Survey and some subcontracting to the firm
might be all it takes to put. it into the formal form.
There was some discussion on whether to select the firm and
forward the recommendation to Council.
Commissioner Issacs pointed out that all the members of the
Commission were not present.
Chairman Peterkin replied we are only missing one and he didn't
hear all the presentations, and has been absent the last 5 - 6
meetings.
MOTION
Commissioner Dragseth moved, seconded· by Commissioner
Williams to get on with the selection of an engineering firm
and forward it to the City Council.
There was a roll call vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Ackerly suggested CH2M Hill be the engineering firm
selected. Chairman Peterkin agreed with Commissioner Ackerly
that CH2M Hill representated themselves to do a more thorough
job.
Commissioner Williams nominated TAMS as the firm to be selected.
Commissioner Issacs preferred TAMS. He stated CH2M Hill as his
seconded choice. He felt TAMS had more experience in Alaska.
Commissioner Williams stated he was impressed with both. Going
through the detailed cost breakdown there was little cost
difference except in one item and that was in the modeling.
Commissioner Wagoner felt CH2M Hill's meetings were high priced.
Commissioner Williams felt the $50,000 CH2M Hill's figures were
high for modeling when they indicated the last modeling was under
$20,000. The overall plan presented by TAMS was unique and
different because there is no other harbor in Alaska like it.
Commissioner Wagoner noted TAMS in 'the first ten minutes covered
what it took the first presentation one hour to cover. Then they
went on to explain how local engineering problems could be
handled. They have experience in Alaska and local knowledge of
Co ok Inlet.
Chairman Peterkin noted CH2M Hill had a good deal of experience
in Alaska, all the proper computer data, the staff was good, and
they were recently involved with the Port of Homer study. They
seem to have gone further with their money. They are the only
ones that said they were going to take the project to Juneau for
us. They also recently obtained have a good environmental staff.
TAMS will consult with Dames & Moore to do the environmental
work. CH2M Hill has a strong environmental section. Having
recently worked with Yakutat they have more political hammers to
pull.
Commissioner Williams pointed out the approaches to the permit
process. CH2M Hill indicates costs based on Environmental Impact
~ssessment not Environmental Impact Statement which is a
difference of $20,000 to 1/2 million.
Chairman Peterkin noted all subscribed that they would do an EIA.
None said they would do a Statement.
Commissioner Ackerly asked are there any other firms that
impressed any of the Commissioners?
Chairman Peterkin stated his first choice is CH2M Hill, TAMS is
second and he would eliminate the other two.
One' concern of Commissioner Williams was extra bills coming in
from CH2M Hill. TAMS gave us a good hard figure.
Commissioner Dragseth stated CH2M Hill has more people, the price
is close, CH2M Hill is all in house and they won't have to call
on any-other firms.
Chairman Peterkin pointed out CH2M Hill went in depth on the
industrial park and greenbelt.
Commissioner Issacs didn't feel CH2M Hill was quite as qualified
in harbor experience. Their key personnel is Outside. The ones
here have experience in structural-bridges, etc.
Commissioner Williams asked if the City has had any difficulties
wi th CH2M Hill.
Referring to the Sewer Treatment Plant Mayor O'Reilly stated CH2M
Hill did test borings and they didn't turn out.
Mr. Brighton stated in or der to get true readings they needed
additional excavation. Ther~ was a $90,000 overrun.
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Chairman Peterkin asked what the total project cost was.
Mr. Brighton st~ated four million plus.
Commissioner Williams stated this disturbed him. The results of
soils samples are important.
Chairman Peterkin asked if CH2M Hill did the engineering as well
as the contracting.
Mr. Brighton said no.
Mr. Davis added they subcontracted the drilling.
Mayor O'Reilly reported CH2M Hill also did work on the airport.
The work done had to be done in time to accomodate the fish
flights.
Commissioner Wagoner stated he would like someone to call Larry
Farnen in Homer and tel.1 him which firms we have and ask about'
the working relationship they had with each.
Mr. Davis reported CH2M Hill did their dock extension 5 - 8 years
ago. Their last big project was the Masterplan for the fisheries
park at the end of the spit. CH2M Hill and TAMS we re in the
finals. They selected TAMS and both had done previous work for
Home r.
The dry harbor was addressed. Chairman Peterkin explained the
dry harbor will be paved and will have floats and cradles for
floats. TAMS is talking about a gravel a'rea.
Commissioner Wagoner stated TAMS said they didn't recommend a dry
boat harbor.
Commissioner Williams stated TAMS was the only firm to come in
prepared to present us with a boat ha'rb°r, and said here's a way
to beat the siltation problem.
Commissioner Issacs stated .the dry harbor isn't the big problem.
There was some discussion on the lock system.
Chair. man Peterkin referring to the concept of the harbor that
~'AMS distributed, stated personally, he felt they did this as a
sell job on the Commission.
MOTION
Commissioner Ackerly moved, seconded by Commissioner Dragseth
that the Commission accept CH2M Hill ~as the engineering firm.
There was a roll call vote. There was a tie vote with
Commissioners Peterkin, Ackerly and Dragseth voting yes, and
Commissioners Issacs, Wagoner and Williams voting no.
Chairman Peterkin called a recess. Mayor O'Reilly left the
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meeting at this time.
MOTION
Commissioner Williams moved, seconded by Commissioner Issacs to
select TAMS as the engineering firm and send that recommendation
to the City Council.
There was further discussion. Commissioner Williams stated CH2M
Hill in Alaska has been involved in ice studies, water and sewer
construction, some heavy dock facilities- no boat harbors. TAMS
has worked with ice and docks.
Chairman Peterkin stated CH2M Hill has a tear drop design- a new
and innovative design. ,They have boat harbors in Coos Bay,
Charleston and Wenatchee. We are not° the only ones with
sedimentation problems. ~
Mr. Brighton stated CH2M Hill was very competent in the
engineering for the Sewer Treatment Plant.
There Was a roll call vote on the motion. The motion failed with
Commissioners Issacs and Williams voting yes, and Commissioners
Peterkin, Dragseth, Ackerly and Wagoner voting no.
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MOTION
Commissioner Ackerly moved, seconded by Commissioner Dragseth to
accept CH2M Hill to be the engineering firm.
The motion passed with Commissioners Peterkin, Ackerly, Dragseth
and Wagoner voting yes, Commissioners Issacs and Williams voting
no.
H. 4. Chairman Peterkin reported he had a call from the COE and
they said the total project has been set back for one year due to
lack of funding. There was a cut in the federal budget. It cut
back all but two projects in the State of Alaska, one in Homer
and one in Seward.
Commissioner Ackerly reported October 24th Ted Stevens will be
here. It would be a good time to talk to him.
I. 1. Chairman ~eterkin reported it has been brought to his
attention that possibly the Commission should make some
statements to the Clarion regarding the Roper situation. Perhaps
the Commission should make some type of rebuttal.
Commissioner Williams had a list of prepared statements and
questions.
Commissioner Dragseth stated maybe silence is golden.
There was further discussion. It was decided to hold off on any
statements.
The next scheduled meeting will be October 28.
With no further discussion the meeting adjourned at 11:05 p.m.
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Cha%r~~ ~. ob~rt%< '~e~r Zi-n
Kenai A~isory Harbor Commission
Respectfully submitted,
Klm Howard
Admin. Assistant
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