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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-02-23 Harbor Commission SummaryKENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting FebruarY 23, 1982 Kenai City Hall John Williams, Chairman AGENDA A. Call to Order B. Roll Call 1. New Member C. Agenda Approval D. Approval of Minutes of February 9, 1982 E. Guest Speakers 1. Phil Bryson of Wince, Corthell, Bryson F. Communications 1. Letter from PNWA/1982 Mission to Washington G. Reports Bill Brighton/Removal of boat at the boat ramp H. Old Business 1. Discussion/TAMS proposal, Mike Horton of TAMS 2. Discussion of Coyle pr~operty Purchase/Jewel Russell of Property World ×7%~-~.-~z~ 3. Preparation of Budget ~.~....~;:.~,~.-/.~'~ .... ' I. New Business 1 Election of Vice Chairman ~,~?~ ........ ,,~-:~~~-,i ............ .~.~ J. Persons Present Not Scheduled to be Heard K. Adjournment KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting of ~February 23, 1982 Kenai City Hall John Williams, Chairman 1. CALL TO ORDER Meeting called to order at 7:10 p.m. 2. ROLL CALL Present: John Williams, Paul Weller, Tom Thompson, Leon Quesnel, and M.W. Thompson OATH OF OFFICE Mr. M.W. "Tom" Thompson was sworn in as new Commissioner 3. AGENDA APPROVAL Agenda passed with no additions or corrections 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES, February 9, 1982 Minutes passed unanimously with no corrections or additions 5. GUEST SPEAKERS A. Phil Bryson of Wince, Corthell, Bryson: Outline and Proposal for Boat Ramp Project A letter from Mr. Bryson had been handed out to the Commission and Mr. Bryson briefly went over it, asking for questions or comments. Mr. Bryson pointed out a factor concerning the gas line which runs through the Coyle property.~ Mr. Bryson had contacted Kusco Gas Co. representative Oscar Thomas 'and asked if the gas line could be tapped for the proposed mobil shower facilities and was told it was unlikely in that if there are up to 10 taps on a line, it would come under PUC criteria which they wanted to avoid; the second item being a pressure reducing station which wold be necessary and would cost from $100,000 to $250,000. It is estimated that gas service could go around the Coyle tract for $3.50 per foot for a 2" line. If access came through the Coyle tract, it will cost approximately $4500, if it goes along the platted right-of-way it will cost an estimated $15,000. Propane would be five times as expensive as gas service. John Williams asked if a tap would be possible from nearby property as both D~-ag$=-~th and Cherriers are close and it will be investigated as a possibility. KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting February 9, 1982 Page 2 Mr Bryson also asked the Commission to take into consideration that the surveying of the Coyle property may take longer than proposed. Mr. Williams asked that in that case, could a bid be put out earlier to get the project underway as by the time the surveying were done in October, it would be too late to benefit the boat users this summer as well as. funding problems. Mr. Bryson felt it could be done if smaller contractors were used, and be handled through a subcontract with one of the other phases. As the small boat harbor is a long. way from reality, the boat ramp becomes much more important. Tom Thompson asked what type of facilities could be completed by this year. Mr. Bryson answered that water, sewer, showers, possibly the ramp exapnasion or repair of the existing ramp. MOTION: Moved by Tom Thompson, seconded by Paul Weller to recommend to the Kenai City Council that a contract be drawn up for Wince, Corthell, Bryson for proposed engineering services as outlined in the attached proposal, the money to come from the Port Facilities fund, the amount not to exceed $32,300.00. There were no objections. M.W. Thompson expressed his opinion that the fuel loading facilities and the reapir grid were of primary importance and would be of great help to fishermen. It was noted that no further information had come from the Corps of Engineers in response to the letter written requesting information on permits and regulations. 6 · COMMUNICATIONS A. Letter from PNWA regarding Mission to Washington Chairman Williams presented the letter and asked if any commissioners would be interested in attending March 14-18th, pointing out the need to keep in touch with that organization, however, there was no one who could attend. B. Copy of Letter from John Williams to the Corps of Engineers requesting information on permits needed for the boat ramp project. C. Copy of letter to Don Wright owner of the abandoned boat "Optimist" from City Manager Bill Brighton The Commission discussed the need for the removal of the boat an'd what could be done in the eventuality of there being no response from the owner. KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting February 23, 1982 Page 4 B. Discussion of CoYle Property Purchase/Jewel Russell of Property World representative Chairman Williams presented the letter signed by the Mayor giving the City t-he 'first right of refusal on this land, plus the memo from City Manager Bill Brighton. The Commission is asked, by the City Council to consider the purchase of the land and pass along back to the Council, the Commission's recommendation. Mr. Williams pointed out that the purchase of any property by the City Council runs against the grain of the~ Council and also against their philosophy in that they are trying to divest themselves of property that are now being held. The land in question is adjoining the proposed harbor site, emphasis~ on the proposed due to the fact that a harbor is not yet a reality and' may never be built. Mr. Williams stated that he cannot recommend the purchase of this land or any additional property until such time as the silt and sediment study is completed. Tom Thompson referred to the proposal as a poker game depending on whether or not the harbor project proceeds. It was also pointed out by commissioners that the City had the property appraised by Frykholm at the request of the Commission which was lower than the package now before the members. Commission members asked if the proposal could be considered at all at this time as there is a lack of information and cannot recommend purchase without knowing if the harbor will go. Tom Thompson asked Mayor O'Reilly if' the Council had expressed any opinion, regarding this matter. Mr. O'Reilly suggested that the City does have other lands, section 36, Dobinspec, as an example, very attractive land of a different nature, and concurred with Mr. Williams that the City is desirous of not owning property, however, with the Coyle property, there is more use possible for it other than just a wet harbor and should the Coyles be so inclined, there is the possibility of a land swap, not so much centering on the value of land, but perhaps size since it would be difficult for anyone to purchase the entire land in question, being suCh a large amount of money. John Williams pointed out that there is a gas main running through the property that would have to be moved if puchased and the cost to the City would run approximately one million dollars which would be a detriment to the purchase price. Mrs. Coyle asked why the Commission had purchased the Roper leases and Mr. Williams responded that there were problems surrounding those leases that needed to be cleared up before any project could get underway. Mr. Williams addressed the Mayor's suggestion of working out something, recognizing that this is the offer to the City and that the City and Harbor Commission have what they consider an offer to the Coyles. KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting of February 23, 1982 Page 3 MOTION' Moved by Paul Weller, seconded by M.W. Thompson to request the City Administration to take direct action to remove the abandoned vessel "Optimist" from the City property in the vicinity of the boat ramp after the 30 day stipulation as stated in the. letter to Mr. Don Wright, the date being March 16, 1982. Motion passed by .unanimous roll call vote 7. REPORTS None 8. OLD BUSINESS A. Discussion of TAMS .proposal' Mike Ho~ton representative Chairman Williams briefly reviewed for the new commissioners what has led up to the representative from TAMS being present. He also outlined for Mr. Holton, the three stages the Commission would like TAMS to address by the next meeting. It can be an update on the old proposal, or whatever TAMS feels appropriate, "whether or not, if a full tide harbor is' designed in that area, whether or not we will be able to support it financially with the silt and sedimentation problems and do we in fact have those silt and sedimentation problems and can they be overcome". · Mr. Holton asked if the primary target is commercial use as in Homer since there has been a downward trend to commercial fishing, or is the aim towards recreational use. We mUst look at the magnitude of the sediment problem first which will take a full year before the next stages can go on. Will need to take a first hand look at the full scope of what is being requested. Mr. Williams appointed Waldo Coyle to volunteer to escort Mr. Holton around the area. The commercial aspect is of vital concern as there lies an overall constant demand as well as a basis for support, and hopefully, will relieve congestion and upgrade safety in the river. The question of commercial fishing and the problems with the salmon industry and the grading of the salmon has come up, and it is proposed that an inspection board be set up to monitor the salmon from the time they're caught until they're marketed and if this comes about, a harbor of this nature will pay off and will be a tremendous benefit. Mr. Wagoner pointed out that the Corps of Engineers has informed Ninilchik that they will no longer being dredging their harbor which means 100 boats will be looking for a place. The. question was asked concerning the number of boats that would be served by a harbor; it would appear that upwards to 400 boats would look to this facility. KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting February 23, 1982 Page 5 The..question of funds available was raised and Tom Wagoner confirmed that the $250,000 was set up by ordinance last December for land acquisition, but that was all, no furthe= funds had been allocated for land. Mrs. Coyle asked if there was a grant somewhere from the State, Mr. Wagoner answered that this was the mOney requested by the City which indeed came from the State. Tom Thompson felt strongly that some sort of a trade or agreement should be worked out if the City felt the need for the purchase of this property. Leon Quesnel expressed the feeling that the Commission could not make the recommendation as there was not enough to go on at this time. MOTION: Leon Quesnel moved that the Harbor Commission make no recommendation to the City Council at this time, seconded by M.W. Thompson. Mayor O'Reilly pointed out that what the Council needs are the readings on the Commission's thoughts at this point in time. In order to make a recommendation, the Commission needs to take a long look a few years down the way, rather than right at this moment. Regarding the suggestions of part land and part money, the negotiations could take place with the representatives of the Coyles and the City. John Williams stated that he is in favor of the purchase of the Coyle property but not at the price asked. Mr. Quesnel also supported Mr. Williams in that if the Commission and the City were not interested in the property in the first place there would not have been an appraisal and explained that his motion was made on the basis of the high cost of the property. Mr. Williams then asked the Coyles if the proposal to the City of $15,000 per acre the final offer or are they open to negotiations. Ms. Russell answered that at this point the price is $15,000 and no suggestion of negotiation has been made and no recommendation could be made. MOTION AMENDMENT: John Williams relinqished the gavel to Leon Quesnel to make the amended motion that the Harbor Commission recommends to the City Council that an offer be made to the Coyles through their agent to purchase the property in question for $5,850 per acre for a total value of $184,275, seconded by Tom Thompson. Motion passed by unanimous roll call vote KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION Regular Meeting February 23, 1982 Page 6 VOTE' On Main Motion Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote C. .Approval of Budget John Williams presented a budget he had drawn up for discussion. After reviewing 'the budget the Commission passed the following motion: MOTION: Tom Thompson moved, seconded by M.W. Thompson to accept the budget as presented by Mr. Williams. There were no objections 9. NEW BUSINESS A. Election of Vice Chairman NOMINATION- leon Quesnel nominated Tom Thompson, accepted by Mr. Thompson, seconded by M.W. Thompson ' Nomination passed unanimously 10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None 11. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business the meeting was adjourned. The next meeting of the Kenai Advisory Harbor Commission will be Tuesday, March 9, 1982 at 7'00 p.m. Respectfully submitted' ~net Lop~r, ~c~etary