HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-01-25 Harbor Commission SummaryKENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMISSION
Regular Meeting, January 25, 1983
Kenai City Hall
John Williams, Chairman
AGENDA
1. CALL TO ORDER
2. ROLL CALL
a. Installation of New Member
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of November 18, 1983
5. GUEST SPEAKERS
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a. PNWA Minutes
b. PNWA Newsletter
7. REPORTS
a. Presentation by TAMS Corporation
8. OLD BUSINESS
a. Budget - include additional money for public relations material
9. NEW BUSINESS
a. Proposal submitted by Mr. Palm & Mr. McMillan
b. Trip to Juneau
10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
11. ADJOURNMENT
KENAI ADVISORY HARBOR COMMiSSiON
Regular Meeting, January 25, 1983
Kenai City Hall
John Williams, Chairman
1.. CALL TO ORDER..
The meeting was called to order at 7:04
2. ROLL CALL
Present: John Williams, Tom Thompson, M.W. Thompson, Leon Quesnel,
Paul Weller, and Allen Houtz
Also Present: Council representatives Sally Bailie and Tom Wagoner
Mr. Allen Houtz was given the Oath of Office and welcomed to the
Harbor Commission as its newest member.
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
Agenda approved with no corrections or additions
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of November 18, 1982.
Chairman Williams noted that the name of Allen Houtz was spelled
incorrectly.
Minutes were approved with the correction.
5. GUEST SPEAKERS
Chairman Williams called for anyone wishing to speak, there were none.
6. COMMUNICATIONS
a. PNWA Minutes
Chairman Williams explained to those present, and to the new member
what PNWA is and does for water related activities.
No action necessary.
b. PNWA Newsletter
No action necessary
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7. REPORTS
a. .P..resenta..tion by ..T .AMS C0rP0ra. tion
Mr. Michael Horton presented written material which will be included
in the packet.
Mr. Gary Schnieder submitted the request to the Corps of Engineers
for the modifications to the permit and there were no objections
from the Corps, the permit has been drafted and the signed copy
should be back in 3 to 4 months. The permit will need the signature
of the city manager.
Mr. Horton explained the ~drawings for the basins. In the drawing
it was shown that the basin would have to be pulled out every winter
and the piles would have to be stiff. Maneuvering into the boat
grid without sticking out into the current appeared to be very
dangerous .and for those reasons TAMS opted for dredging a basin,
the other reason is that it conserves a trial dredge for the main
harbor project when t hat one comes. Mr. Horton felt that this is
hopefully a temporary facility that will be moved out when the main
harbor scheme comes along. This wO. uld have a 3 to 5 year life span.
Mr. Horton feels that there is going to be alot of sediment in there,
the bottom being put at -6' which is the same depth of the river, the
idea that if there was quite a bit of siltation during a 5 year problem
it wouldn't be a very big problem, this could still be used at a half
tide or most tides. If the main harbor project does not go, then
it can still be used then the basin could be cleaned out every 5 years
or so. The drawings show a sediment barrier which would deflect the
current away from the entrance should the sediment prove heavier.
The fuel float shows a capability for 4 boats at 120' long with room
to put smaller boats on the back side as well, the pumps will be flush
with the boats so that 4 boats could be fueld with 2 pump installations
in the center of the floats. The grid itself has room for 2 boats as.
well and combined the approach trestle with the fuel float with the
boat grid so some money could be saved. It's 12' wide so a pickup
will fit on it with a 4' approach, the idea being that 1 pickup could
park close while another could pass.
The discussion then centered around time for construction of any part
of the project, Mr. Horton suggested a good time for starting would be
the end of May with dredging starting during the winter. Mr. Gary
Schnieder indicated that after talking with the Corps of Engineers,
there may be a time limit set by the the Corps for dredging and if it
isn't done around May, the city may have to wait to around mid-July
or later.
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Chairman Williams opened comments to the Commission. Mr. Horton and
Mr. Schnieder detailed the drawings for the Commission and public.
Councilman Wagoner stated that when this harbor idea was first introduced,
the question came up as to who was going to operate it and asked if
the Commission had made any provisions in it's plans. Chairman Williams
stated that the fuel terminal would be done as a concession business
and the actual policing of the repair grid had only been discussed to
a point where it was felt that this could go along with the person
running the fueling concession, with this person setting a fee rate
and the city taking a portion of it.
In terms of return from the harbor, Councilman Wagoner stated that
to give some sort of idea of where the fishing industry is, last year
his catch was 55,000 of fish and he quit fishing earlier than alot of
fishermen. Mr. Wagoner had to load those into a dory and deliver them
to the dock instead of pulling up to the dock in his fishing boat to
offload. If he could have he would have gained another~ $.10 per pound
or over $5,000 per fisherman if he could offload his own fish.
Mr. Horton then went into a report, on the progress of the sedimentation
study stating that from the data available from the dips already done
they fed it into the computor model, using figures from the worst possible
day 'in the year just to see what the worst conditions would be and came
up with a Sedimentation per year of 1.3' on the highest tide. The model
can predict a whole years tides, and even taking the very worst year
it came up with half of what the Corps of ~ Engineers predicted, and at
this very preliminary stage it looks as. though the yearly sedimentation
rate is one that is very acceptable in general terms. It appears that
this is in the sort'~'~of range that is going to come out.
There are 3 alternatives to consider for the main harbor, 1) the excessive
siltation alternative would be to build in a siltation lock where in
the summer time locks could be open'.ed depending on the tide taking
10 minutes for each boat to go through, which would be unacceptable
during the fishing season in the summer, plus it is expensive, 2) if
the sedimentation is less than excessive or a medium level, a~ sill
could be used which would stop the silt coming in on the lower end of
the tide and this would creat a half tide harbor, 3) and if it was a
reasonable silt situation there would be no problem, it would go into
the 5 year dredging (once every 5 years) and again to keep in mind, this
is very preliminary, there being no way to try to guess figures at
this point.
Mrs. Bailie asked where the fishermen were currently getting their
fuel. Councilman Wagoner stated that fuel availability was scattered,
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coming from Salamatof, some of the processors have floating barges
in the river, Columbia Wards, etc. Mrs. Bailie asked if the fueling
facility went in would there be alot of boats coming in. Chairman
Williams stated that on the river, Kenai is subjected to major fuel
spills every day that they are there. There are alot of fueling
facilities now, however each and every one of them in surveys that
they would gladly give up the fueling in that right now its a courtesy
thing and does not make them money and the do get alot of problems
from environmentalists and indicated that they would like the city to
take it over, Salamatof does have an agreement of some type with the
city where the city owns the fueling facility and Salamatof runs it
however is a very poor fueling facility, there being alot of problems
with fuel spills, and on the other side, water in the fuel putting
boats out of work. This basin is designed so that any fuel spills
can be boomed off and won't go out into the river. Councilman Wagoner
indicated that for the independents, there is a lack of places for
them to get fuel except the Kasilof River and if Kenai had fueling
facilities they would certainly want to come back to the area, benefiting
businesses in Kenai. Chairman Williams stated that one of the things
we tend to forget is that the harbor is servicing facility for a form
of transportation and commerce the same as roads are a servicing
facility for transportation and commerce on land.
Chairman'Williams asked the Coast Guard representative to speak on
items such as the fueling on the river. Mr. Sparks stated that right
now there any number of regulations on. all aspects of fueling including
nozzel size as an example. The public is becoming more aware due to
programs, the importance of keeping the rivers and waters clean and
effects of spills.
Mr. Horton pointed out that one more reading will be taken at break
up time so that the sedimentation that builds up.~under the ice during
the winter could be checked. Armondo Ballofet will be doing the
measuring about the month of May or whenever it breaks up. The two
TAMS representatives had been to the river to check the amount of
ice. The mathematical model is set up and can tell what the "critical
velocity" and current flow will be and an example of a worst case is
a 1.3' however, TAMS is optimistic as the reading is not a comparatively
high one.
The design for the basin is available and will accomodate 38 boats,
the entire harbor concept to accomodate 400. Mr. Horton stated that
TAMS is very aware as is the Commission that "if you have a 400 boat
harbor here at Kenai it's going to be full in a week, you will get
a demand from Anchorage and all around, this is a very good location,
its near Anchorage and alot of people are going to want to use it so
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there will be a bigger demand than just commercial, there are going
to be alot of recreation people that are going to want to use it.
One of the things we tomy want to look at is a dry harbor, boat ramps,
and fish unloading docks, there are alot of things that are going to
happen as soon as this scheme gets off the ground."
8. OLD BUSINESS
a.. .Bud. ge.t
The Commission discussed the funding for the harbor and the bid documents
needed at length, Chairman Williams reading the figures as accumulated
by. the finance director. A vote for support for seeking funding from
the legislature was taken 'with the Commission responding unanimously.
Since there is some money available through the grants and bonds part
of the project will be broken out of the bid documents TAMS will prepare.
Chairman Williams went on to the in-house budget detailing the line
items in particular items to be included which .would allow Commission
members travel to lobby for funding and the preparing of brochures
on the harbor project similar to those presented by TAMS Jto promote
the harbor to the public, last year's budget totalling $24,000.
MOTION:
Commissioner Weller moved to adopt the budget request for 1983-84 for
$24,000, seconded by Commissioner Thompson.
There were no objections
MOTION ·
Commissioner Weller moved to send a copy of the budget on to the city
manager's office, seconded by commissioner M.W. Thompson.
Motion passed unanimously
9. NEW BUSINESS
a. P.ro..p.o. sal.. su. bmitted by Mr. Palm & Mr. McMillan
Mr. Palm introduced the proposal stating that the land they were intereste
in was Tract B in the boat launch area that was used at one time by
Mr. Roper and what the tract would be used for is a 40'. fishing dory
for unloading of fish during peak fishing seasons, taking the fish from
the boats to the shore and then by truck to the canneries thus releiving
some of the congestion in the harbor during peak fishing seasons.
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Commissioner Weller asked if those plans would interfere in any~With
the plans the commission has undertaken for the boat ramp, the answer
was no. Commissioner T. Thompson asked if the land needs fill, Mr.
Palm indicated it could either be done that way or perhaps rails laid
temporarily, to be removed after the season was over. The Commission
asked if any buildings were planned, there were none. Have the men
checked with the Corps of Engineers, they had and the Corps had indicated
there was no problem in that use was temporary and the land was not
conservation and under jursidiction of the city. Basically the idea
is to provide an alternative to the canneries for those independent
fishermen who have no where to sell fish.
Bill Brighton explained to Mr. Palm and Mr. McMillan that the city had
spent $150,000 to get that land back and probably would not be in a
hurry to again tie it up and asked if any other land would be acceptable
to them. The Commission and Mr. Brighton agreed to help the gentlemen
in any way with any other land they might find that would meet their
needs.~
b. Trip to Juneau
The Commission discussed what members might be available to go to Juneau
to help in gaining funds for the harbor project. Both Commissioners
Thompson stated that they felt they may be able to and would get back
to the COmmission. Commissioner Quesnel stated that he may be available
to go around mid-March and will also get back.
10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
None
11. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned. The next
meeting will be Tuesday, February 15, 1983 at 7:00 p.m. in the Council
Chambers.
Respectfully submitted:
J~et Loper; S~c~etary