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AGENDA
August 12, 1996
Kenai City Hall 7:00 p.m.
Chairman Will Jahrig
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ROLL CALL
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES - July 8, 1996
PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
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OLD BUSINESS
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NEW BUSINESS
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Floats- Middle of River
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INFORMATION
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COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
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City Council Agendas
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ADJOURNMENT
Set date for next meeting.
Harbor Commission
***Minutes***
August 12, 1996- 7:00 p.m.
City Council Chambers
Chairman Will Jahrig
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CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Members Present:
Jeannie Munn, Will Jahrig, Tom Thompson, Mike McCune
Members Absent:
Barry Eldridge, George Spracher, Ray McCubbins
Also Presem:
Keith Komelis, Jim Bookey, Mayor John Williams, Paul Dale, Wayne
Freaden, Debby Fahnholz
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioner McCune requested that an update to the pilings be added to the agenda under
Old Business.
Commissioner Munn MOVED to approve the agenda as amended.
SECONDED the motion. The agenda was approved as amended.
Commissioner Thompson
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Munn MOVED to approve the minutes. Commissioner McCune
SECONDED the motion and the minutes were approved as written.
4. PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
Paul Dale congratulated the city on how well the city docks were handled with the traffic
flow of dipnetters and commercial fishermen. He felt everything went very smoothly. He
reported that Snug Harbor Seafoods is searching for an area to store their boats. They would
like to lease an area on the side of the dock lot to encompass approximately 480' x 100'.
They felt they would be able to line their boats up on the side. If they need to lease other
land for boat storage, they would still like to lease a small area large enough to place an
office with some parking.
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Wayne Freaden asked what would be the size of the smallest area they would need. Paul
Dale stated that there would be approximately 20 large boats and several smaller boats. He
stated the minimum area required would be 75' wide. He stated that there would need to be
electric service and a security fence installed.
Wayne Freaden stated that area requested is the least used area at the docks. Commissioner
Jahrig stated that there have been times where it has been really stacked in there.
Councilman Bookey was concerned that the leases go up for bid every year. Paul Dale did
not want the requested lease property tied up with the crane leases. He did not feel that the
center area that goes with the crane lease was of any added value to the crane lease.
Commissioner Jahrig was concerned that when the dipnet season is going, that the center
area is necessary.
Councilman Bookey suggested that it was an idea the Commission should maybe discuss and
make a decision at a later date after Council has had a chance to talk it over. Mayor
Williams stated that there are circumstances that may change in the area over the next 12
months. He suggested giving them a short term lease for now and by this time next year
they should have a better picture of what will be going on. Commissioner Jahrig suggested a
50' or 60' width.
Paul Dale suggested installing a series of gates and possibly a center dividing fence in the
center area.
Commissioner McCune stated that with a series of gates, snow removal could be a big issue
around the gates. Paul Dale stated that in the past he has mostly taken care of that himself.
He didn't feel that it would be worth it if he put in security fencing for a short term lease.
He felt that if there were improvements that Snug Harbor made, that they should be
considered for a long term lease.
Commissioner Jahrig suggested a 240' x 120' area would give him the space that he would
need.
Mayor Williams stated that he would have to talk to the city attorney about long term versus
short term leasing. Commissioner Jahrig felt that if someone else picked up the crane lease,
that they may need storage area if the center area wasn't available. He suggested just
shifting the center lease area to the side.
Mayor Williams suggested an addendum to the current lease. Keith Komelis stated that the
lease will be up in October. Paul Dale stated that he would be happy with a four year lease,
but suggested staggering them to one at two years and the other at four years.
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Councilman Bookey asked if there were two separate crane operators, would the smaller area
be sufficient to handle loading and unloading. Paul Dale and Wayne Freaden both felt that it
would be sufficient.
Paul Dale stated that Snug Harbor Seafoods is currently paying about $8,000 a year to store
their boats.
Mayor Williams suggested an extension to the current lease until the crane bid comes up
again. Councilman Bookey asked if Snug Harbor would be interested in storing their boats
with no security fence. Paul Dale stated that it would not be feasible.
Keith Komelis suggested a Credit toward the lease if Snug Harbor were to put the fencing in
and extending the lease until the crane lease expired to let them put in the fence for no extra
money.
Commissioner Thompson MOVED to delete the cemer area and extend the ground lease to
approximately 120' x 240' and allow Snug Harbor Seafoods to put in the security fencing.
Keith Komelis suggested using the area in from of the restrooms for storage.
Freaden stated' that was possible but it would need to be looked at.
Wayne
Commissioner Munn SECONDED the motion.
motion.
A vote was unanimously in favor of the
Commissioner Thompson asked what size storage area would be adequate.
that 50' x 50' would be sufficient.
Paul Dale stated
5. OLD BUSINESS
Mayor Williams stated that the Fish Board will not bend as far as the city's problems are
concerned with the dipnet fishery. He felt the safety concerns of the City is an issue that
needs to be addressed. He stated that Mission Street was fenced off to prevent people from
jumping off the cliffs. There were also people repelling down the cliffs. He proposed a
$1,000 fine imposed on anyone destroying property. He stated that the overall condition of
the bluff is that it is continuing to erode and asked the Harbor Commission to request an
RFP be done to include an engineering report, attempts to secure funding and the necessary
permitting to halt the erosion problem.
Mayor Williams suggested a sheet pile wall to be filled in behind with material such as
crashed car bodies, old asphalt, and concrete to be layered with sand up to the toe of the
bluff. He stated the engineering report would have to consider if the soil could handle such
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a wall. He felt that once the engineering report was done, then the funding could be sought.
The filling in behind the wall could be an ongoing project.
Commissioner Jahrig stated that curremly the road on the beach is receding and as the road
recedes, the beach is disappearing as the bluff is eaten away. He stated that the area they are
now losing is fill that was put in 20 years ago.
Mayor Williams stated that once the project is started, it needs to be completed and the city
will need to continue to maintain and improve it. He stated that if there is enough concrete
piling available to do all the needed area, then we need to look at getting it done. He stated
that the city is in a position to where they will be retiring their existing bonds by next year
and would consider going to the voters for a new bond if necessary.
Commissioner Jahrig stated that they are doing another rip rap job in Homer to the cost of
about $5 million dollars for a five mile project.
Commissioner McCune stated that the owners of the concrete pilings would like to get them
removed and are currently getting them appraised for tax purposes. He had a donation form
from them which he was going to give to Keith Komelis. Councilman Bookey felt that they
would have to have the money appropriated by Council to have them moved.
6. NEW BUSINESS
Floats - Commissioner Jahrig stated that the ramp at the city dock has been getting plugged.
He suggested purchasing aluminum ramps (8' x 32') for $6,000. He felt this would give
another 100 feet of ramp area and would allow room for people to tie up and to clean their
fish on. The ramps would have to have their own anchors.
Wayne Freaden stated that they would have to go through the Corps for permitting.
stated that the ramps could be anchored end to end along the mud bar.
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Paul Dale suggested that a dock like that could replace the existing mooring buoys and could
handle more boats the mooring buoys now hold.
Commissioner Jahrig felt that the ramps were choked off. Councilman Bookey stated that
when it got to its maximum capacity, then it had to level itself off, since the ramps could
only handle so much traffic at one time.
Wayne Freaden stated that the ramp system along the dock would work, but it would have to
be done right. He felt that getting the anchoring done correctly would be important.
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Councilman Bookey felt that the issue of authority needed to be addressed at the d°cks.
Wayne Freaden reported that there had been several incidents where people just would not
listen to them. Commissioner Jahrig suggested a badge. Wayne Freaden suggested
approaching the Fish Board with a time limit on the dipnetting hours instead of a 24-hour
opening.
Wayne Freaden stated he would like to see another piling put in and about 20' of ramp.
felt they would also need to extend the pads.
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Commissioner Jahrig felt that it would be best to keep the dipnetters totally separate from the
commercial fishermen. Commissioner Thompson suggested handing out a pamphlet to
everyone using the city docks explaining the procedures.
Councilman Bookey stated that he hoped that there was input to the Legislature for funding
from the people who were concerned that the facilities were inadequate. Wayne Freaden
stated that there were probably 3,000 launches with an average of 4-5 people per boat.
Commissioner Jahrig felt that interaction with the Board of Fish with suggestions from the
City would be appropriate.
7. INFORMATION
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COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS
None.
9. ADJOURNMENT
The next meeting was scheduled for September 9, 1996.
Commissioner Munn MOVED to adjourn. Commissioner McCune SECONDED the
motion. The meeting was adjourned at 9'35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Debby J. Fahnholz
Harbor Commission
August 12, 1996
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