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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-02-10 Harbor Commission SummaryKENAI HARBOR COMMISSION AGENDA February 10, 1997 Kenai City Hall 7:00 p.m. Chairman Will Jahrig I · ROLL CALL 2~ ELECTION OF OFFICERS o APPROVAL 0F AGENDA m APPROVAL OF MINUTES - January 13, 1997 1 PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None Se OLD BUSINESS a. Boat Ramp - Surrounding Property (request by Commission) 1 NEW BUSINESS a. Boating Facility Budget Information b. Dock Leases 1 INFORMATION a. Seminars Information COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS ae City Council Agendas 10. ADJOURNMENT Harbor Commission ***Minutes*** February 10, 1997 - 7:00 p.m. City Council Chambers Chairman Will Jahrig 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL Members Present: Will Jahrig, Barry Eldridge, Mike McCune, Jeannie Munn, Tom Thompson, Ray McCubbins, George Spracher Members Absent: None Also Presem: Keith Komelis, Paul Dale, Wayne Freeden, Debby Fahnholz 2. ELECTION OF OFFICERS Commissioner Eldridge MOVED to retain the currem officers for another year. Commissioner Munn SECONDED the motion. The motion was passed with a unanimous vote. 3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Commissioner Thompson MOVED to approve the agenda as presemed. Commissioner McCune SECONDED the motion. The agenda was approved as presemed. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Munn MOVED to approve the minutes as written. SECONDED the motion. The minutes were approved as written. Commissioner McCubbins 5. PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None. Harbor Commission February 10, 1997 Page 1 ® Ae ® Ao OLD BUSINESS Boat Ramp - Commissioner Jahrig asked how much of the dock area is covered with gravel. Komelis responded that there is approximately 5-6 acres of gravel. Commissioner Eldridge asked Paul Dale what area they curremly occupy. Paul Dale responded that they occupy a portion of the five acres near Carlyle. He stated that the 30 acres he was occupying is tied up in an estate and may not be settled for another year or two. Commissioner Jahrig asked if the Corps have been comacted to designate some of that area as wetlands. Kornelis stated that they had gotten a permit from the Corps to fill for parking at the end of Spruce Street. He stated that the Council still has to decide if they are going to designate the funds to do the fill. He felt that this is an equally importam area for dipnetting. He stated that if there were two more ramps they could get the boats in and out faster, but then they would need more parking. Commissioner Eldridge suggested going in and out near the pilings. Commissioner Jahrig stated that was a pretty dead area. Wayne Freeden stated that last year was the first year there was a shift in that direction. Komelis suggested another ramp between the currem ramp and the docks could be possible, but it would be tight. Paul Dale suggested a loader or a tractor that could alleviate everyone from having to back down and load and unload their boats would smooth things out a lot, something similar to what they do at Deep Creek. Wayne Freeden felt it would help alot if they could just keep people off the floats. Commissioner McCune stated another approach could be to approach the Cherriers about their property. Commissioner Jahrig suggested putting a limit on how many were allowed to launch, and when it was full to mm people away umil someone leaves and space becomes available. NEW BUSINESS Boating Facility Budget - Kornelis passed out a history from 1994-1996 of the budget. He added a building item on the budget. Commissioner Jab_rig asked what R&M Services were. Kornelis responded that it was for comract services which can fluctuate a lot from year to year. Harbor Commission February 10, 1997 Page 2 g. Commissioner McCune asked if scales are provided. our operations. Momelis responded only for Komelis asked for a response on the building expansion request from the Commission. Commissioner Jahrig stated he was aware of the crowded conditions. Wayne Freeden was concerned because of the money being in the open and there being no room to move around. Councilman Bookey asked how much money is usually there. Wayne Freeden responded that the largest day brings in about $1500 in ramp fees, plus fuel money. Councilman Bookey was concerned that 150 square feet was really going to puSh the budget. Wayne Freeden stated that anything would help. Commissioner Jahrig stated that there isn't even a place to hang wet clothes. Commissioner McCune felt the increased space is warranted but felt they should look at other building materials. Wayne Freeden stated that he just asked for an estimate of the same material that is already there. Commissioner Eldridge asked if 2x4 construction would suffice. Wayne Freeden stated yes, it would, it just wouldn't look as nice and would require more upkeep. Commissioner McCune MOVED to recommend to Council the expansion as presented. Commissioner Eldridge SECONDED the motion. The motion was passed with a unanimous vote. Dock Leases - Komelis suggested having an outcry auction on the leases.. He suggested having one lease go on a 2-year lease for one term, the other on a 4-year lease, then when the 2-year lease comes up to make it also into a 4-year lease. This would have one lease renewing every 2 years. Paul Dale stated that since 1990 they have paid consistemly more on the 4-year lease than on the single year lease, but he felt that the 4-year lease offers the lessor more stability. Councilman Bookey asked why they changed from a 4-year lease to a 1-year lease. Komelis stated that it was by direction from Council. Commissioner Jahrig warned to cominue the poundage fee. Komelis stated that the fee schedule would stay the same. Commissioner Jahrig asked if they should both be on a 4-year schedule. Kornelis again stated that he would like to make one a 2-year lease for one term, then make them both 4-year leases to have them on a 2-year cycle. Harbor Commission February 10, 1997 Page 3 Kornelis suggested they could also do an outcry auction. He stated that they had to do it once before with a minimum bid and it worked OK. Commissioner Spracher felt an outcry auction might be the best. Commissioner Jahrig didn't feel that an outcry auction would be the best way to go. Councilman Bookey felt it needs to be checked out to be sure its legal to go that route. Komelis didn't care either way, he just felt there would need to be a minimum bid. Councilman Bookey asked how the poundage would work on an outcry auction. Kornelis stated that they would have a minimum for that also. Commissioner Jahrig asked if the minimum bid should be raised. everyone think about it and make a decision at the next meeting. He suggested that Councilman Bookey stated that he was comfortable at an $8,000 minimum bid. He felt supply and demand would set itself. He felt on an outcry auction the poundage would have to be set. Paul Dale felt that it was a good idea to set the poundage and felt six cents a pound was fair. Commissioner McCune stated that he felt that fee was light. Komelis felt that at eight cents there wouldn't be as much fish. Councilman Bookey didn't feel the city should subsidize a service that can be done by private enterprise. Commissioner McCune asked if we are covering our costs. Komelis stated that someone would be there anyway and felt it was fair. Commissioner Jahrig asked if there should be a minimum bid, a fixed poundage or a floating poundage. Commissioner McCune asked how many boats were in the storage area and how many fish of the boats fish for them. Paul Dale responded that 20-25 boats are in there. Komelis stated that on page B2 they look at the basic bid and give it to the highest basic bid with an estimate on the poundage. He stated that there'was a lease clause that said if they were 10% under their estimate the city could throw out the contract. Commissioner Thompson suggesed a fixed poundage rate and then let the competition bid on the minimum bid. Commissioner Eldridge suggested 3-3/4 cents a pound and a minimum bid of $8,000. Commissioner Jahrig felt there wasn't much room for a grey area. since the bid is for four years, there is still room for bidding. Paul Dale felt that Harbor Commission February 10, 1997 Page 4 Commissioner McCune felt the best way to go is to establish a base poundage. Commissioner Eldridge stated that since it has been established at 3-3/4 cents per pound to leave it at that. He agreed with going with the 2 and 4 year lease and felt the staging area should be drawn up as part of the lease. Wayne Freeden suggested that the staging areas could be cut in half. Commissioner Eldridge MOVED that 3-3/4 cents a pound and an $8,000 minimum bid be established with one lease for 4 years and the other initially at 2 years to become a 4-year lease, thus having one lease come due every 2 years, staging areas to be designated and handled through a sealed bid. Commissioner Munn SECONDED the motion. The motion passed with a unanimous vote. Co Boatyard Facility - Commissioner Jahrig stated that the storage area is going to have to be looked at again. Commissioner Eldridge didn't feel it was in the best interest of the facility to look at a long term lease. Councilman Bookey asked what time frame they were looking at. Paul Dale responded that they would like a longer lease, but the would like like additional space. Commissioner McCune suggested a 2-year lease with a minimum bid. Komelis stated he would have to talk to some real estate people to establish a value, since it is considered raw land. Councilman Bookey suggested just letting it go for bid and let the bid establish itself. Komelis suggested bidding it after bidding the dock facilities. He stated he would research it further and bring it up for discussion again at the next meeting. 8. INFORMATION Seminars - Commissioner Jahrig brought to everyone's attention the flyer in the packet on the seminars offered in Anchorage. ® COMMISSIONER COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS Commissioner Jahrig mentioned that the Harbormasters Meeting is scheduled to be held in Wrangell this year in November. 10. ADJOURNMENT The next meeting was scheduled for March 3 due to the possibility of not having a quorum. Councilman Bookey stated he would get approval from Council for the meeting date change. Harbor Commission February 10, 1997 Page 5 Commissioner Munn MOVED to adjourn. Commissioner Eldridge SECONDED the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 9'20 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Debby J. Fah~olz Harbor Commission February 10, 1997 Page 6