HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-12-09 Harbor Commission SummaryKENAI HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 9~ 2002
KENAI COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
AGENDA
ITEM 1'
CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL
ITEM 2'
AGENDA APPROVAL
ITEM 3'
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - - November 15, 2002
ITEM 4'
PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
ITEM 5:
OLD BUSINESS
a.
Discussion-- Kenai Coastal Trail Update
ITEM 6:
NEW BUSINESS
ITEM 7:
REPORTS
ao
Director
Dock Foreman
City Council Liaison
ITEM 8.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS/QUESTIONS
ITEM 9:
INFORMATION
a.
2002.
Kenai City Council Action Agendas of November 6 and November 20,
ITEM 10:
ADJOURNMENT
KENAI HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 9~ 2002
KENAI COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7:00 P.M.
CHAIRMAN TOM THOMPSON, PRESIDING
MINUTES
ITEM 1:
CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL
Chairman Thompson called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.
confirmed as followed:
Roll was taken and
Present'
Absent:
Others Present:
Thompson, Spracher, Eldridge, Simon, Foster
Barrett
Councilman Bookey, Public Works Director Kornelis, Department
Assistant Harris
ITEM 2:
AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION:
Commissioner Eldridge MOVED to approve the agenda as presented and Commissioner
Foster SECONDED the motion. There were no objections. SO ORDERED.
ITEM 3'
APPROVAL OF MINUTES -- November 15, 2002
MOTION:
Commissioner Eldridge MOVED to approve the minutes as written and Commissioner
Foster SECONDED the motion. There were no objections. SO ORDERED.
ITEM 4:
PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD -- None
ITEM 5:
OLD BUSINESS
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Discussion-- Kenai Coastal Trail Update
Kornelis reported he attended a meeting with the Army Corps of Engineers,
Alaska Department of Fish and Game (ADF&G), and City of Kenai administration
members. Kornelis detailed the following:
· A Corps of Engineers meeting was held and a baseline survey on
invertebrates, plankton, birds, and other marine life was discussed. The Corps has
formulated a tentative work plan, which is broken into three studies: biological,
hydrology, and sedimentation. Kornelis stated he felt the Corps is very supportive of
City of Kenai administration and the bluff erosion project; though the Alaska
Department of Fish and Game seemed less enthusiastic and helpful.
· ADF&G stated it could take as long as three years to complete and
compile the biological survey. Kornelis stated he and the Corps of Engineers strongly
encouraged them to complete it sooner, as this project has been ongoing for years and
should be made a priority. Additionally, Kornelis stated ADF&G should try to conduct
and complete any wintertime studies now, as the Kenai River is still ice-flee.
Councilman Bookey stated he has a meeting scheduled with Phil North, a
member of the ADF&G, to discuss and clarify some of the statements made at the
meeting. Bookey stated he also felt ADF&G was not cooperative in proceeding with the
project.
Commissioner Simon suggested sending a letter to the Director of the
EPA as a complaint against the ADF&G, specifically Phil North, citing unprofessional
conduct. Simon stated she feels this, as well as any past resistance, should be
documented and brought to the attention,of top EPA officials, Governor Murkowksi,
and Senator Stevens. Councilman Bookey stated that any and all correspondence
should come from City Council itself, if and when Council deems it necessary. At this
point concerning this issue, Bookey stated he felt a letter would be premature and
aggressive.
The Corps of Engineers is very supportive and a studies timetable should
be ready by March 2003.
ITEM 6:
NEW BUSINESS -- None
ITEM 7: REPORTS
7-a. Director-- No report
7-b. Dock Foreman-- No report
7-c. City Council Liaison -- Councilman Bookey reported the following:
* The next Council work session is scheduled for December 12 at 7 p.m.
and will focus on employee insurance and benefit issues.
The Commission and Councilman Bookey briefly discussed possible
future mill rate changes and bond issues; Commissioner Simon requested Bookey
explain what a mill rate is to three high school audience members.
ITEM 8:
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS ! (~UESTIONS -- None
ITEM 9:
INFORMATION
Kenai City Council Action Agendas of November 6 and November 20,
2002.
ITEM 10:
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 8' 10 p.m.
Minutes prepared and transcribed by:
Sharon M. Harris, Department Assistant
KENAI HARBOR COMMISSION MEETING
DECEMBER 9, 2002
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Harbor Commission
December 9, 2002
Item 5-a (Commissioner Simon Comments)
Verbatim
Simon' This is getting kind of personal, but I'm thinking that there was a time when
the Director of the Environmental Protection Agency that had been appointed by
President Clinton just quit and there was another person that was appointed to take
his place. Maybe a letter about, like, unprofessional conduct, having to do...
Bookey: I hate to see us go there and, you know. I feel confident I can make the point
with Mr. North pretty plain. That letter would have to go to Seattle, anyway. He
doesn't have a boss here, anyhow.
Simon' Right. The point of his being placed on the peninsula was to be able to work
better with local communities and be more in touch with ....
Bookey: I understand that, but sometimes, we don't want to jump into the foot that
he did. I don't want to go in and annihilate him at this point. I know Phil well enough
to sit down and talk to him and, you know, see what happens at that point. If
something doesn't come out of it from that, then maybe, but that would have to go to
Council and be discussed at Council. We can't authorize anything ....
Eldridge' Before the heavy hand comes down. He doesn't answer to Anchorage?'
Bookey: Well, he might, but I think his big boss is in Seattle.
the Western Division.
The head of the EPA in
Eldridge: Well, yeah, I knew it was in Seattle, but isn't he a branch out of the
Anchorage office?
Bookey: I'm with Keith, I really don't know.
Kornelis: We deal directly with him and with the Seattle office...(inaudible)
Simon' On that same line, I think that the amount of record-keeping that's going on
not only shows efforts of the city, on behalf of the project, but also try recalling or
document the resistance that's been consistently happening and, I would say that the
number of times you attempted to contact by phone, you know, all of these things.
And I would stipulate that, it's kind of dangerous to make stipulations. But, I predict,
you know, that whether, either way (inaudible) I would think that you're going to see a
lot of the same characters in the world that are here on the Kenai Peninsula, and until
those people are removed and other people are placed, I don't think you're going to see
a lot of cooperation.
Bookey: I probably agree with you on some of it, but, you know, we had a problem
politically with all of the agencies, what, two years ago, a year and a half ago, and I sat
down personally with a couple of different agency leaders and said "look, we~l get out
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of this politically but I want to see something happen in six months to a year." Well,
it's at a year today. And that's why I told you all, at our last meeting, I was tired of
waiting. Nothing has happened and I don't care if there was a flood, sure I'm sorry
that the rest of the peninsula was involved with a flood, but you know, the world still
goes on. We've just kind got left behind because our meetings got postponed,
postponed, postponed. And, Mr. North was one of them, who said to me, you know,
we can make this thing happen in six months to a year. Fine, I~l go with you the first
time, and the first time is fine, but if you stonewall me, you know, the second time is
shame on me and there ain't never a shame on me. I had, we had our last meeting
here, Keith can attest to it, I went, presented to the Council and said, "You know
what? It's time to change our tactics." The mayor agreed, the Council agreed, so we're
not going away. We're in it; we're going to stay in it. Politically you're going to see us,
we~l stay out of the way of the administration because that's not where we want to be.
But we're going to push this project and there are a few of us who don't have a whole
lot of time. But, John and myself are the two main ones who really want to see this
project locked down and completed within the next two years.
Simon' I'd like to just say it's one of the key topics of Senator Murkowski's
administrations really for. I'd think this project would make a marvelous showcase of
agency resistance to development.
Bookey: And I agree with you and I've already had that same thought pattern, my only
concern with it is is that by the time the new administration changes the regulatory
bill lease for us, I'm hoping we're already done. Even if he starts as of his date of
swearing in, by the time he gets his administration up and going and there is any time
for any type of public hearings or anything, you're looking at a year. And then you're
looking at a year to eighteen months to get new rules or regulations either reduced or
in place and I'm hoping we're long gone by that point.
Simon: I'm thinking that if we go ahead and summarize all the remedies that you've
exhausted and summarize that for the Governor, I'm talking about making it a
publicity (inaudible) more than that.
Eldridge- I think it's (inaudible) because, you know, the last director of Fish and
Game is gone. He went out with Knowles, there's a new interim director appointed out
of Anchorage and that's already got Fish and Game all abuzz, because it's somebody
new and Murkowski is still liable to appoint somebody else before it's over. One of the
things .... it might be helpful to get some feedback to Murkowski ahead of time, is, one
of the things we problems with down on the river with Fish and Game is their
unwillingness to work with us and try to protect our town.
Bookey: He's already aware of that. We put that issue before him the last three or
four years.
Eldridge'
now.
Well I know, down in Washington, but he's in a new hat and in authority
Bookey' We'll all be down, some of us will be down in Juneau for January/February
and that whole issue will be brought back before them. Because, like John said, and
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Keith said at the meeting the other day, Kenai Coastal Trial is the number one priority
for Kenai. Bar none. There ain't nothing out there more important to us right now
than the Kenai Coastal Trail. The commitment of the Council is there 100%. We're
going to see that something happens.
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