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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-01-20 Historic District Board Summary_ HISTORIC DISTRICT BOARD j January 20, 1997- 5:30 p.m. ~~*AGENDA~~~ Kenai Council Chambers Chair porothy Gray 1. ROLL CALL: 2. ELECTIONS: 3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 16, 1996 5. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD: 6. HISTORIC BOARD REVIEW: 7. NEW BUSINESS: 8. OLD BUSINESS: a. Sign Grant i • Rotary Club • Shk'ituk't Village sign quotes ~• Sign Text • Townsite Historic District Signs 9. REPORTS: 10. INFORMATION: a. City Council Agenda - December 18, 1996 & January 8, 1997 b. Letter to OHA dated 12/30/96 c. Historic District Board Roster 11. BOARD QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS: 12. ADJOURNMENT: HISTORIC DISTRICT BOARD January 20, 1997- 5:30 p.m. ~ ~' ~MINUTES~ ~ ~ NOTE: Quorum not established until 6 p.m. Meeting called to order at 6 p.m, 1. ROLL CALL: Members present: Dorothy Gray, Michael Huhndorf, Bill Kluge, Gloria Wik, Rebecca Godek, Kim Booth (Godek and Booth arrived at 6 p.m.) Members absent: Alan Boraas, Ethel Clausen Others present: Councilman Joe Moore, City Engineer Jack La Shot, Administrative Assistant Marilyn Kebschull 2. ELECTIONS: KLUGE MOVED TO RETAIN GRAY AND HUHNDORF AS CHAIR AND VICE-CHAIR FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR. MOTION SECONDED BY BOOTH. Gray asked for further nominations. No further nominations offered. UNAN,IMOUS. 3. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: GRAY ADDED TO NEW BUSINESS DISCUSSION OF THE LINDGREN/JONES HOUSE POSSIBLE DEMOLITION. NO OTHER ADDITIONS. AGENDA APPROVED. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 16, 1996 Gray asked for any changes or additions to minutes. None noted, BOOTH MOVED TO ACCEPT MINUTES AS SUBMITTED. WIK SECONDED THE MOTION. MINUTES APPROVED. 5. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD: 6. HISTORIC BOARD REVIEW: 7. NEW BUSINESS: a. Discussion--LindgrenlJones House Gray noted that the Bookeys' plan to demolish this residence, Gray showed the Board a picture of the house from the TSH survey, Booth asked if the house was structurally capable of being renovated. Gray stated Mr, Bookey may have interest in using land for another use. Gray noted according to the TSH survey the historical significance of this building is that it is one of the very few remaining early Kenai residences and the largest residence from that time period. Gray stated she felt is would be appropriate for the Board to suggest that it be offered to someone and moved to another location or sold rather than being demolished. Gray stated there may be someone in the community who would like to make it into an office or a home. Huhndorf commented that in so many pictures of Old Town you see that house so prominently. Huhndorf noted that if you had a photo layout of the town, you could stand at Fort Kenay and look at that house and get a layout of the rest of Old Town. Kluge asked if there was a timeline as to when the house was scheduled for demolition. Gray stated she didn't know. Kluge commented it probably wouldn't be for a few months. Gray asked how the Board would like to pursue this? Booth stated perhaps they could enter into dialogue with Mr. Bookey to work towards saving the building. Godek asked if the building was structurally sound? Gray stated that the survey says it is in poor condition. Gray noted that the surveyors were only able to survey exteriors. Kluge stated if it could wait until the first week in February, he would volunteer to get with Mr, Bookey to tour the building to see if the building is structurally sound. Gray asked if they should write a letter to Mr. Bookey to offer Kluge's services. Booth commented that she didn't feel that he would do anything during the winter. Kluge stated he felt it would be a good idea to contact Mr. Bookey anyway. Gray noted that if Mr. Bookey is interested in moving the building that would give them some time to find another place for the building. Gray asked how it should be handled. Booth stated Mr. Bookey is easy to speak to on the phone and perhaps they should just call him. Gray noted it would be nice to have it in writing for the record. Huhndorf noted they could do both, Booth stated they could call saying they are calling from the TSH board noting that the Board understands the house is Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 2 Minutes scheduled for demolition, ask if he has a schedule, and advise him of the Board's concerns. Booth volunteered to contact Mr. Bookey. Moore stated the Mayor wanted the Board to know that the Cunningham house is also scheduled for demolition. Moore noted it has been offered to the city. Gray asked how big the house was. La Shot noted it is 18 by 23 feet, two story. Kluge noted there are some stories in conjunction with the house. Kluge stated Mr. Cunningham was shot there and according to the current owners he still visits the house. Gray stated she thought the Mayor had mentioned bringing it over to the park strip. Moore stated that Parks and Rec didn't like the idea. Moore reiterated that the Mayor wanted the Board to know the house was available. Booth asked if there was other land they could work with. La Shot noted the city has property but not sure it was whether they could work with it. Godek asked if a house is moved if it loses it's historical significance. Huhndorf stated. it depends how strong the significance is after it is moved. Huhndorf noted there are houses that have been moved from Kasilof that didn't affect their significance. Huhndorf noted it would have to be reevaluated once it was moved. Godek noted it would be a shame to move something like that and then have it lose it's historical significance. Huhndorf stated he felt part of the significance for that house is the location. Huhndorf noted it was endeared to his wife whose mother was raised in the house. Huhndorf stated it could prove to be of value because the spot will still be there and perhaps they could fix information to the original spot. Gray stated she felt they should put both the Cunningham and Lindgren/Jones houses on the agenda for the next meeting and in the meantime to think about possibilities for them. Gray noted they could be two good projects for the Board. Gray noted Booth has volunteered to phone Mr, Bookey. Gray asked if they needed a motion to have Kebschull write a letter to Mr. Bookey noting the Boards interests, concerns, and possibly even quoting text from the TSH survey. WIK MOVED TO HAVE KEBSCHULL WRITE MR. BOOKEY. MOTION SECONDED BY BOOTH. UNANIMOUS. 8. OLD BUSINESS: a. Sign Grant • Rotary Club Kluge noted he met with an individual from Sign Art who was supposed to be providing a quote for routering of the signs with the Rotary putting the material Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 3 l~ . Mmutes together and getting it ready to router. Kluge stated he spoke briefly with the city ~ about what the have to ut in metal si n osts. Klu e noted a oint that had Y p g p g p came up was to make the signs so they could be taken down in the winter adding he felt this was a good idea. Kluge stated he is working on a scheme for de- mounting the signs. Gray stated she covers them and that was a suggestion from Mr. Sherman. Kluge noted that may be the easiest approach, Huhndorf asked if that was just to protect from the weather. Huhndorf asked if it was too costly to re-lacquer. Kluge stated they have to be resealed every four to five years. Kluge stated they are proposing to use a semi-transparent stain, oil based. Kluge stated if he hasn't heard from Sign Art, he will call him to find out what is going on. • Shk'ituk't Village sign quotes Gray stated there are two quotes in the packet and one from Sign Art which was passed out tonight. Kebschull explained that the sample in the packet was provided by Sign Art as they are doing a similar project for Sitka. Sign Art wanted to show how the sign could be constructed so that the top could be removed and the art work removed for protecting. Kebschull noted they were supposed to provide a quote for the art work adding they had stated they would provide three or four copies of the art work. Kebschull commented that the quote that was passed out today was received at 5:15 p.m. Kebschull noted Sign Art had explained they are having difficulties with their suppliers who are in Seattle who had basically shut down after the recent flooding. Gray asked Kebschull to update the Board and to explain the idea about possibly diverting funds. Kebschull explained that the two quotes in the packet appear similar in costs adding that both were more than had been budgeted for. Kebschull noted that the Sign Art quote is extremely more expensive than the other two. Kebschull noted this could have been that it was sent at the last minute and was an estimate. Kebschull stated the Sign Art quote would be $4500 for the three panels. Kebschull reported she had spoken with the city's Finance Department to ascertain if they knew if funds could be diverted from the TSH signs since there are only 14 signed agreements to date. Kebschull noted that doesn't mean there will not be a few more agreements received but there still should be excess funds in that portion of the grant. Kebschull noted that the agreement received from OHA does not split the funds as the budget in the grant document, instead it is split by contractual services, professional services, and supplies. Kebschull stated the city's Finance Department stated they couldn't answer the question and referred her to OHA. ~ Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 4 Minutes Kebschull noted that OHA had been closed for the holiday. Kebschull stated her suggestion would be to divert funds if the Board wants to proceed with the Shk'ituk't sign as proposed noting this will be probably the only way they will be able to afford it or obtain funds from another source. Gray asked for comments. None offered. Gray asked if Kebschull should determine if the funds can be diverted? Huhndorf stated he felt that would be the best route to take. Booth asked if that would take away funds from another portion of the grant? Gray stated it would take funds from the TSH signs but noted the Board does not have the full number of signs that were applied for. BO~TH MOVED THAT IF MONEYS CAN BE REAPPROPRIATED WITHIN THE GRANT THAT THEY DO S0. WIK SECONDED MOTION. Gray clarified that the motion was that Kebschull should ascertain if moneys can be reappropriated from the townsite historic markers to the Shk'ituk't Village sign. Gray added that they could then make a decision at their next meeting. UNANIMOUS. Kebschull noted that the quotes that were in the packet were the only companies she had been able to obtain quotes from and asked if anyone had other contacts to ) . . ~ let her know. Booth asked if Sherman Signs had been approached and Kebschull advised he had and that he did not produce these kinds of signs. Godek noted that at Corporate Express they have Lexan signs but thought they were painted on. Godek offered to find out who Corporate Express obtained their signs from. • Sign Text • Townsite Historic District Signs Gray noted each member was given an assignment to contact, as a courtesy, the property owners who had agreed to the signage. Gray noted some members had brought copies of their text to share. Gray stated she could read them but added that because of the time limitation they may want to wait until their next meeting. Gray commented that because they have not received permission from all the property owners, the Board may want to contact OHA and ask for an extension to obtain the other agreements and complete text. Gray asked if the other members agreed to ask for an extension. Gray noted the two people she contacted were pleased adding that Roger Meeks was very happy that he had been allowed some input into the text. Gray noted he ~ Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 5 Minutes added only one word. 1 Godek asked who had Diane Loftstedts' property adding she had not been contacted. Kluge noted that he could not get a hold of her and had been unable ~o get her phone number. Godek suggested calling Harborside Cottages or to call her and she could obtain the number, Godek commented that Loftstedt is excited about providing information for the sign. Godek asked if Gray had written something out for the Jahrig Electric Building and asked what the chances of getting name of the building changed? Godek noted that originally it was the Old Cannery Building. Gray asked what it was listed as in the survey and Godek noted the Pharmacy/Jahrig Electric building. Godek noted that the Vozars own it and would like it to read the Old Cannery Building. Gray stated~ she felt that may be more appropriate. Huhndorf asked that since it was Jahrig Electric afterwards if that would be mentioned in the sign? Godek stated that the various purposes of the building could be mentioned in the sign. Godek noted the Vozars had stripped the building down to what it was originally as the Old Cannery building. Gray noted she contacted Elizabeth Wilson for the Wilson House and Roger Meeks for the Civic Building. Huhndorf contacted the owner of the Oskolkof/Dolchok Cabin and the Kenai Fire HaII/Jail. Kluge had the Showalter House and the HermanlMiller House. Wik noted she had the Chaffin House and the Kenai Bible Chapel. Gray asked everyone to write text for the next meeting. Gray asked if there was anything else that needed to be taken care of with the sign text in preparation for the next meeting. Booth noted she had been unable to contact with anyone at the Wildlife Refuge. Kebschull noted they had informed her the buildings were a part of the native land trades and they do not expect to maintain ownership much longer. Huhndorf stated he had received comment to take out Oskolkof and replace it with WiklDolchok. Wik asked about the 200 letter limitation. Kebschull advised that was a figure that was thrown out when the grant was written adding that the Board would need to decide how much space there is and how much information is relevant. Kluge showed an example of what 200 characters would look like noting it would easily fill a four by six inch plaque. Huhndorf noted that wouldn't include spaces. Gray stated it should. Kluge suggested getting as close to as possible and if needed they would edit the information. ~ Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 6 , Minutes 9. REPORTS: ,~ 9. INFORMATION: a. City Council Agenda-December 18, 1996 & January 8, 1997 b. Letter to OHA dated 12/30/96 c. Historic District Board Roster 11. BOARD QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS: Booth noted she had her resignation letter adding she had hoped that she would be able to be a formal part of the board until May. Booth noted that her Board of Directors had asked that she resign because of her duties between now and when she leaves her position. Booth commented that a lot of what the board is doing is why she joined it. Booth stated she has to formally resign but noted she will contact Mr, Bookey and work on the signs. Booth noted that she will continue to work with the group perhaps as an advisor. Gray noted that she would accept the letter with regret. Gray noted that when she was in Hawaii there was a number in the corner to identify signs which helped with the walking tour. Kluge noted they had talked with the sign salesman about that. Huhndorf asked if someone was working on the walking tour. Booth stated she would like to work on that noting that the brochure could expand the information on the buildings. Godek noted that she could work with Booth on that as she is on Booth's Board of Directors. Godek noted she could ask the Visitor's Center Board to support the TSH Board on the brochure. Huhndorf asked if the Kenaitze Indian Tribe could add information to walking tour or if they would just be staying with information from the survey. Booth commented they could provide information. Gray stated she would update the Board on the Mission Street project at the next meeting and on the street lighting. Gray noted the Board would request moving the next meeting to Monday, February 24t". Gray commented that Godek, as the unofficial membership chair, will be looking for new members. ~ Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 7 Minutes 12. ADJOURNMENT: Meeting adjourned at approximately 6:35 p.m. ~Resp tfull submitted: ,~ ~ :~ , C , ,- Mariyn Kebschull Administrative Assistant Townsite Historic District Board January 20,1997 Page 8 Minutes