HomeMy WebLinkAbout1998-04-02 Parks & Recreation SummaryKENAI PARKS/k RECREATION COMMISSION
AGENDA
APRIL 2, 19 9 8
CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
CHAIRMAN RICHARD HULTBERG
ITEM 1'
CALL TO ORDER/k ROLL CALL
ITEM 2:
AGENDA APPROVAL
ITEM 3'
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 5, 1998
ITEM 4:
PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
ITEM 5'
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OLD BUSINESS
Softball Green Strip Camping
ITEM 6:
ITEM 7:
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ITEM 8-
NEW BUSINESS
DIRECTOR' S REPORT
Boys & Girls Club Donation request
Pop Warner Football
Eric Hansen Scout Park Design
Bernie Huss Fitness Trail
OUESTIONS/k COMMENTS
ITEM 9:
CORRESPONDENCE
ITEM 10:
PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
ITEM 11'
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INFORMATION
Council Action Agenda- March 4 and 18, 1998
Beautification Committee Minutes of March 10, 1998
Rep. D. Young letter to RR regarding multi-purpose recreational facility
Alaska/Northwest Regional "Elks National Hoop Shoot Contest" results
City League Basketball Final Results
ITEM 12' ADJOURNMENT
KENAI PARKS ~ RECREATION COMMISSION
*** MINUTES ***
April 2, 1998- 7:00 P.M.
City Hall Council Chambers
Chairman Richard HultberE
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CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chairman Hultberg called the meeting to order at approximately 7'00 p.m.
Members Present:
Richard Hultberg, Dale Sandahl, Ronald Yamamoto, Kelly
Gifford, Jack Castimore, Tim Wisniewski, Alicia Brewer
Also Present:
Director Bob Frates, Councilman Duane Bannock,
Contract Secretary Barb Roper
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Castimore requested an addition under Item 6, New Business;
Recreational Facility.
Multi-Purpose
Hultberg added Keith Huss under Item 4, Persons Scheduled To Be Heard.
Agenda was approved with the additions.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 5, 1998
MINUTES FOR THE MEETING HELD MARCH 5, 1998 WERE APPROVED AS
WRITTEN.
PERSONS SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
Keith Huss - Bernie Huss Fitness Trail- Mr. Huss reported that he
discussed the proposed work in the Bernie Huss Fitness Trail with his
mother and they think the improvements are a good idea. Huss
suggested that Parks consider utilizing people required to do community
service to assist with the work. Huss also suggested that a uniformed
officer make periodic walk-throughs to show a presence in the area.
Frates indicated the project should not incur a huge expense as the Girl
Scouts will be doing most of the work in order to earn a community
service award. A walk-through is planned to identify the work required
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and Frates stated he would be pleased to have a Huss family member
involved. Once the areas are identified, they plan to solicit assistance
from community service organizations such as the Elks, Eagles, etc.
Parks and Rec will provide departmental support by removing the brush,
loading it on vehicles and discarding it.
Yamamoto suggested that Norville be contacted to help out as he may be
able to provide equipment, etc.
Huss recommended that Carr's be contacted to see if perhaps their
employees can pick up the trash along the fence since most of it is from
their store. It was suggested that probably wasn't being done at this
time due to the liability involved with an employee working off premises.
It was noted the City installed the fence. It was also noted that Carr's
has taken care of the loitering problem on their property.
Frates indicated the project is going to take the participation of not only
the Huss family and the Girl Scouts but the community as well in order
for it to be successful. Huss indicated that he would do whatever
necessary to assist with the project and reported that his sister Maria
will be in town during the time recommended for the walk-through.
It was determined the walk-through would take place on Tuesday, April
21, 1998. The group would meet at the park at 4:30 p.m. Frates stated
he would contact Huss. Sandahl suggested marking just the trees that
should stay.
OLD BUSINESS
Softball Green Strip Camping
Hultberg introduced Mike Wiles of the Softball Association.
Hultberg brought attention to the memo included in the packet
regarding the types of complaints received about the softball green strip
camping area. Frates reported that the City Manager's office received
many calls last year with various complaints which included using
private dumpsters, hot briquets dumped on the grass, tying up the
facilities whether it was the shelter or bathrooms, and why are softball
players allowed to camp and others are not. Frates reported that City
Code requires written permission from the City Manager to camp in any
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non-designated tent area..Frates was unsure if permission was ever
obtained as there are no records of it but camping has taken place in
that area since 1981.
Frates stated if the Commission is in favor of tent camping in the area
then a plan of action needs to be developed to present to City Council. If
the Commission feels camping should not take place in the area then
other alternatives need to be considered, such as camping in the parking
lot, the FAA fields, or the tent campground. Hultberg reported there are
some individuals on the Council that will probably vote against the tent
camping because of the abuses that have been reported. Hultberg
continued, the Commission needs to come up with some ideas on how to
eliminate the problems. The issue was on the Council agenda on April
1, 1998 but was removed at the request of Administration.
Sandahl asked what happened between now and the last meeting since
the issue was discussed and it was determined then that tent camping
will continue. Frates replied, the issue was discussed with the City
Manager and he put it on the City Council agenda.
Castimore asked if the Softball Association has ever signed an
agreement with the City or if there was a contract is place. Gifford
replied there was not. Castimore asked if the Softball Association was
insured. Wiles answered, yes, they are. Castimore suggested that
ground rules be established and a formal agreement or legal document
between the City and the Softball Association be generated. Yamamoto
agreed that control was required and pointed out that the number of
people allowed to camp needs to be determined as there are limitations
with regard to the number of people versus facilities (restrooms). Wiles
reported the Softball Association brings in porta-potties during
tournaments.
Hultberg addressed the alcohol and open container problems. Frates
noted that signs are posted and they helped but the League was more
responsible for taking care of the problem as they want to make the
sport more of family type event. Frates noted the problem was much
better last year than in years past.
Frates asked if the Commission thinks that tent camping should
continue in the area then coordination needs to be made with the
Softball Association in addressing the issues, designating an area on the
property that is appropriate for tent camping and an area that is not.
Frates showed a map of an area and pointed out the areas that are off
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limits to tent camping. Frates also thought the Softball Association
could help with dumpsters and porta-potties to facilitate their needs.
Wiles indicated that last year was a slow year for softball as there were
only about 65 teams attending tournaments compared to years past
when there had been up to 135 teams. Wiles confirmed the teams like
the atmosphere and the fact that they can camp next to the fields.
Discussion took place on the utilization of the pavilion in the area and it
was confirmed that it is used for cooking and getting out of the weather.
Sandahl thought that both the Parks and Recreation Commission and
the City Council should be knowledgeable of the type of problems
encountered due to tent camping but the establishment of rules and
enforcement should be an Administrative function and Frates should
have the leeway to develop those guidelines.
Bannock reported this item was removed from the Council agenda as it
was determined the issue required Parks and Rec discussion. Bannock
stated the rules currently do not allow tent camping and it needs to be
determined whether these rules should be changed. Bannock
continued, the City Manager has a lot of concern about five weekends of
tent camping in the area, particularly when it is in conflict with another
big City party, which is the Industry Day function. If the Parks and Rec
Commission decides that tent camping should not continue, then
Council would direct Administration to close the area. If camping is to
continue then, Council wants the Commission to develop some controls
that would be appropriate.
After a general discussion it was determined that tent camping should
be allowed to continue. Castimore stated it not only provides a
convenience to the visiting ball teams, it also represents income to the
community as other businesses are being used such as the restaurants
and hotels.
Wiles stated the Softball Association was never aware there was a
problem until he looked at the City Council agenda. The alcohol issue
was discussed the past two years and it has gone very well. The teams
are eager to do what is asked by the City and if they are made aware of
the problems they would be addressed. Wiles continued, any rules
established by the City will be provided to the various teams in the
packet the Softball Association sends out each year.
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Bannock reiterated that Council wanted this conversation to take place
with the Parks and Rec Commission. Administration will make the rules
and Bannock made it very clear that Council will not, however, they do
take some flak when something goes wrong. Bannock suggested the
following ideas: tent camping be allowed in the area with time
limitations set, i.e., tents down at 9:00 a.m.; tents allowed within the
boundary of the softball field with tents coming down at 9:00 a.m. and
put back up after the last game is played at night. Bannock liked this
idea in particular as other people in the community could continue to
use the other elements of the park.
GIFFORD MOVED TO DIRECT THE PARKS AND REC DIRECTOR TO
ESTABLISH RULES TO BE PRESENTED TO THE CITY MANAGER
WITH INPUT FROM THE SOFTBALL ASSOCIATION. MOTION
SECONDED BY YAMAMOTO.
Frates indicated that opening this area up to tent camping is essentially
making the area a tent camping facility for that weekend. This means
the area is open to anybody.
Discussion took place on Industry Days and Hultberg noted the event
takes up the entire side of the area. Frates reported that Industry
Appreciation Day is purposely set and in fact the Softball Tournament
sponsored it last year. Frates reported there is no conflict. Bannock
stated it would be a huge conflict if 20 tents were there during Industry
Appreciation Day.
Vote
SANDAHL Yes YAMAMOTO Yes
GIFFORD Yes CASTIMORE Yes
WISNIEWSKI Yes BREWER Yes
HULTBERG Yes
Motion passed unanimously.
It was decided that Frates will provide a set of guidelines at the May
meeting.
NEW BUSINESS
Multi-Purpose Recreational Facility
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Castimore reported the discussion for a multi-purpose recreational
facility was discussed in May and October, 1996, January, February and
March 1997. Several studies were done on a multi-purpose recreational
facility (Castimore provided copies of a few studies).
CASTIMORE MOVED TO RECOMMEND THAT THE KENAI CITY
COUNCIL BEGIN DESIGN WORK ON A MULTI-PURPOSE
RECREATIONAL FACILITY BY THIS SUMMER. MOTION SECONDED
BY WISNIEWSKI.
Castimore asked for unanimous consent when the item is voted on.
Castimore reported that several groups had come to the Parks and Rec
Commission requesting such a facility. These groups include the skate
boarders, hockey parents, the local hockey association, figure skating
instructors, and many, many requests by community parents. Castimore
thought it was time to move forward and take some action on the facility.
Yamamoto reported that Wince-Corthell-Bryson had already begun work
on a design for a facility and thought it was even completed. Frates
noted there is a Task Force for the project.
Discussion took place on where the facility would be built. Yamamoto
indicated there was some land trade issues being dealt with at this time
so the actual location has not been determined. Yamamoto suggested
the Task Force come to a Parks and Rec meeting to give a status report
on the project.
Bannock reported he would not endorse the motion made by Castimore.
Bannock explained that he was intimately involved in the project as the
same piece of ground for the multi-purpose facility is purported to be
used for the Challenger Learning Center. In order to unleash this piece
of ground the City has to deal with the federal government, the State,
and the Borough. The land swap issue is important as it involves the
funding for the facility. This involves the City trading valuable property
to the State and the State will trade their property for the federal land
(BOR property). The property the City of Kenai is trying to get released
from BOR is adjacent to the golf course. Bannock continued, when the
three-way swap is done, the monies generated from the sale of the
residential lots are going to go to the multi-purpose recreational facility.
The Council has gone on record as saying they are not opposed to
fronting the money as soon as the green light is given to sell the lots.
Bannock appreciates the concerns expressed and the fact that
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Commissioners are tired of hearing about this but the process is very
slow. The City is involved with as many government agencies' as
possible on the issue and Bannock strongly recommended that everyone
contact the federal senators regarding the issue.
Discussion took place on the amount of money anticipated from the sale
of the lots. Bannock indicated there is a difference of opinion on the
issue as there has not been an appraisal on the lots and there is
speculation on how much someone will pay for a lot on the golf course.
Discussion took place on the proposed lot for the facility. Bannock
indicated the property being looked at is the property adjacent to the
high school between Lawton and Rogers. Castimore asked if Council
has decided the multi-purpose facility can only go in one place.
Bannock answered, Council had decided this spot makes sense in order
to pull the land trade off. As a result, with the anticipated lot sales the
facility could essentially be built for free.
Castimore stated the issue has been in discussion for 18 years and there
is a motion on the floor recommending that City Council move forward.
Bannock stated it wasn't fair to say that Council hasn't moved forward
because they have. Wisniewski did not agree with the proposal the City
put before the voters and thought it was pulled out of nowhere..
Bannock responded by stating the issue did not come out of nowhere as
there was a petition to put it on the ballot. Discussion took place on the
petitions and it was determined there were two. The petition generated
by Castimore did not make it to the ballot.
After further discussion it was decided that Frates would invite a Task
Force member to the next meeting to give a status report. Frates
reported the City does have a plan but it will take a lot of time.
Bannock will provide a name and filename of the issue for each
Commissioner so they will know who to contact and how to refer to the
project.
Castimore withdrew the motion with concurrence from Wisniewski.
Yamamoto left the meeting at 8:17 p.m.
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Director's Report
Boys/h Girls Club Donation Request
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The Boys and Girls club donation request went before Council as action
was needed right away. The Club requested 4.5 hours of free gym space
on several Saturday mornings for their soccer program. The soccer
program has grown so much they exceeded the capacity in their gym.
The request was approved.
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Pop Warner Football
A meeting is scheduled on April 13 with the group to address some legal
concerns. It was noted that Steve Foster is the Vice President of Pop
Warner Football and that this is a joint effort between Soldotna and
Kenai.
Eric Hansen Scout Park Design
The final design went to Council last month and was approved.
d. Bernie Huss Fitness Trail
A walk-through of the park is scheduled for Tuesday, April 21, 1998 at
4:30 p.m. An aerial photo has been ordered to help with planning.
Hultberg asked how any money donated to the Bernie Huss Fitness Trail
improvements would be used. Frates thought it would go towards rental
of small equipment.
OUESTIONS & COMMENTS
Frates reported that a local student took second place in the Elks State Hoop
Shoot. The men and women's basketball league final results are included in
the packet. Thank you letters will go out to sponsors of the events.
Commissioner Gifford asked about the status of the iron fence she would like
to see go in the front of the cemetery. Frates indicated that work continues on
the issue.
Commissioner Wisniewski asked when the bike trails would be swept. Frates
reported the department would start with the sidewalks first and should be on
the bike paths by late next week.
CORRESPONDENCE- None
PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD - None
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11. INFORMATION
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Council Action Agenda - March 4 and 18, 1998
Beautification Committee Minutes of March 10, 1998
Rep. D. Young letter to RR regarding multi-purpose recreational
facility
Alaska/Northwest Regional "Elks National Hoop Shoot Contest"
results
City League Basketball Final Results
12. ADJOURNMENT
SANDAHL MOVED TO ADJOURN. MOTION SECONDED BY GIFFORD
MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Barbara Roper, Co/nt~act Secretary
Parks ga Rec Commission
April 2, 1998
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