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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1972-03-23 SummaryKENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING March 23, 1972 PUBLIC HEARING ON CIVIC CENTER MARCH 23, 1972 - FORT KENAY Howard Hackney brought the public hearing to order and introduced the architects, George Filler ~ Mike Plunkett. Mr. Filler related the last two days have been spent in workshops. The drawings you have seen intends to offer suggestions to space requirements, not intended to be a design. I felt it would stir up excitement and we did get the reaction. We need to satisfy the needs of the people with the funds available. There is a demand for additional space. The original 25,000 sq. ft. plus 3,500 sq. ft. needed to enlarge the library, pool and clinic, we will be able to stay within the budget. The $50-$60 per sq. ft. was a shot gun estimate, adding inflation and additional cost of pool. It will be another year before we can start construction, have to wait until after the November election. Some possibilities have come up within the last three hours. I will let Mr. Glotfelty explain this to you. Mr. Glotfelty stated that within the last three hours there is a possibility there will be an additional $300,000 of local funds available to match another $300,000 of State funds, which would make the total complex 2.2 million. We should know if the additional funds are available within a ~ week. This money could be made available by the Borough through a joint use agreement. Also a large part of the maintenance would be paid an the joint use agreement. If the $600,000 becomes available, we can expand different areas and equipment you have indicated you want. George Filler - If these monies are mailable, it would enable us to create a better theatre, a bigger and deeper pool and improvements to others. Lee Glad - I don't like my nose rubbed in it...... not buy their pool. To hell with the whole thing. _City Manager - This concept has been thought about before. This could set a precident for future pools. The Borough give a city a flat sum, say $300,000 ~ if they want a pool figure out how they can come up with the rest of the money. Lee Glad - If it would set a precident, yes. Hugh Malone - If one pool meets the demand, there is no reason to build two. This area would be paying for 600 of any pool in the Borough if the Borough builds it. The cost of operating would be reduced, If the monies are available, the pool and the other facilities could be increased. The agreement is good - why throw good money after bad. PUBLIC HEARING ON CIVIC CENTER MARCH 23, 1972 - FORT KENAY Page two k- Lee Glad - Why should we contribute anything? City Manager - There is another concept, build the pool in the Civic Center in a site selected by Planning and Zoning and the Council in a downtown area and have a mass transportation system (tramway or monorail) to link the facilities together. Navarre will be_going to Washington D.C. and will pursue this with the Department of Transportation. Gail Glad - This would not be self supporting. City Manager - This would take a long term revenue bond. The Borough would provide some amount of money used to replace buses. George~Filler - The location needs to be decided. We need to go back and re-develop the plan, but need the site picked out. Howard Hackney - This is going to be on the agenda at the next Planning ~ Zoning meeting. I expect they'll hold a public hearing. Phyllis Morin - If we build a pool, will the Borough build one? Hugh Malone - If there is a demand, they'll no doubt build one. Phyllis Morin - Will this be a bond issue? I Hugh°'~iafione - Yes, maybe they could without. Jan Alwin - Mr. Navarre told me here was enough oil tax money in reserve to use without a bond issue. Hugh Malone - It all depends on the cost. There is two years in reserve. Lee Glad - When we decided on a minimum sized pool, we were going on the assumpt on the school was going to build the first pool. George Filler - With the $600,000 we could increase the size of the pool and have a more versatile pool. The size of the library and clinic could be increased. If you can get this type of cooperation, grab it. Lee Glad - If they give us $300,000 the money should go to our pool. Cit Manager - I'm not sure I agree with that concept. If they throw 300,000 into the pool but with the matching funds we can increase the other facilities. This would set a precedent, yes, we gave Kenai $300,000 and will give you the same if you can come up with other funds and build a pool. PUBLIC HEARING ON CIVIC CENTER MARCH 23, 1972 - FORT KENAY Page three Lee Glad - I go along with the concept. I believe the lion's share of money should have the lion's share of control. City Manager - The school could use the theatre for play praatice and t e auditorium for assembly. Hugh Malone - What it boils down to is we would have $600,000 we don't have to pay back to anyone to increase the Civic Center Complex. Lee Glad - With the additional $600,000 could expand the pool and have a moveable bulkhead. George Filler - You need a pool that will satisfy the needs of the community. You should increase the size of the pool, not double it. A good portion will go back into the pool plus what the others want. Mike Plunkett - Juneau has a sales tax to pay for their pool. You need the size of the pool to be in relationship with the population. A 110' ft. pool would be more than adequate. Phyllis Morin - What is a moveable bulkhead? Geor~e_.Filler - It is a moveable barrier, mounted on rollers, you push to m-aI~e--a~ivider so there can be two different events taking place at the same time, giving the pool greater versatility. In King County in Seattle, they have a new name for the pool, "Aquatic Recreation Facility" because the pool is used for various activities. Hugh Malone - Does the name change make Federal Funds Available??? George Filler - The small pool is limited to a one meter diving board at a depth of 9 ft. If we enlarged the pool and made it deeper to 13 ft. we could add a three meter diving board. Phyllis Morin - What about the idea of putting the library in a separate building? George Filler - I am not in a position to come to a conclusion. Emil DeForrest - The people coming out of the swimming pool cannot get out o t e pool without changing clothes, so this would be no problem with the library. Phyllis Morin - Hows come the nurse is not in the Public Safety Building instead of the Civic Center? PUBLIC HEARING ON CIVIC CENTER MARCH 23, 1972 - FORT KENAY Page four City Manager - The Public Safety Building was presented for the Police and Fire. The Public Health nurse should go into the Civic Center. The old Public Safety Building could be used for another facility: Dr. Bailie - Why does the Health Nurse need 1200 sq. ft? My clinic has 1100. George Filler - I have a memo from the State outlining the minimum space required~or-work flow and noise factor. It lists space requirements for this type of operation. Mike Plunkett - They will require 2 small rooms, two toilet rooms, 1 o ice, waiting room, nurses office for 4 nurses and storage area. Gail Glad - We have 2 nurses now, how long before we need 4? Dr. Bailie - Within 5 years. Jan Alwin - I use the orthopedic facilities. An orthopedic doctor comes c-Town aka physical therapist and you just can't get in there are so many people. Phyllis Morin - Yes, they come down every six months and there are hearing clinics in between. Clarice Kipp - It is obvious we have a commitment. I can see no plans oar expansion, perhaps we could relocate the Health Center into another location such as the old Public Safety Building. George Filler - There is a potential expansion. There are plans to have more classes on various health problems, could possibly have a joint use out of conference rooms. Dr. Bailie - What services besides shots does she perform? Jan Alwin - The service is there when its needed. There is speech therapy, hearing and orthopedic clinics. Lee Glad - Are you going to be in town tomorrow to get new input. City Manager - We are getting the input tonight. Hugh Malone - If the monies are available and can expand uses of the other areas also, I wouldn't fight it. PUBLIC HEARING ON CIVIC CENTER MARCH 23, 1972 - FORT KENAY Page five George Filler - If the pool is enlarged it increases the number of people using it an~the flexibility. When the people learn to swim, they want to do something with it, such as water ballet, water polo, etc. The longer pool will give more pool water over five foot deep. Phyllis Morin - Does the cost of maintenance rise proportionately with the size of the pool? George Filler - Certain things yes, the more water there is the more it costs to heat it, heating and ventilation go up, management,. no, lifeguards, no. Lance Petterson - In the meeting about the auditorium,. somehow I feel we missed up. We tried to work within the money available, doing without this and that. I feel we were all too soft. I feel we should have the finest possible. G_e_or~e Filler - After our meeting, we felt you were too soft. You need a~nc. des-erve more when you consider looking for potential funds. Not only in getting funds but greatly enhancing the convention center. You need more than just a flat floor. If the money is available we need to get together again and talk about another ballgame. f Lance Petterson - We hope it will be available and get back together. We need the est use of the nucleus. I am in favor of a pool but hate to see the auditorium cut down. City Manager - The Convention Center is not wher~the money comes from but from t~ieTCommunity Center Complex. We have put a great deal of emphasis on the Convention Center but could get the funding without the convention center. Lee Glad - Keep in mind the Borough is not interested in a Civic Center, only the pool. Hugh Malone - With the matching funds we are not going to pour into one corner. Wilma Hackney - Homer has a 75~` pool. Why do we have to have a bigger one? Gail Glad - They have a waiting line. Jan Alwin - I took some Campfire Girls down ther and we.were thrown out. PUBLIC HEARING ON CIVIC CENTER MARCH 23, 1972 - FORT KENAY Page seven George Filler - I am not in a position to say now. Lance Petterson - It would be more flexible to have wood floors all over. Howard Hackn~ - It would be too expensive. They have to be re-finished too often. Phyllis Morin - When Ed gets the word on the money, will you be back with some dra lw ngs? George Filler - We will explore both potentials and come back and make a full presentation. Mr. Hackney closed the Public Hearing on the Civic Center at 9:30 P.M.