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Home My WebLink About1985-10-10 KRSMA Board MinutesKENAI RIVER iSpecial Management Area "Working together...for the river" AGENDA KENAI RIVER SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA ADVISORY BOARD OCTOBER 10, 1985 KENAI PENINSULA BOROUGH OFFICES 10:00 am, SOLDOTNA :- ~` 1. Call to order, President Jefferson 6' 2. Ro 1 1 ca 1 1 ~ '~,,, :. 3. Reading of the minutes 4. Staff report, Neil Johannsen 5• Committee reports Social/Recreation, Bix Bonney Permit, Carol Gorbics Lands, Sharon Jean Biological/Upland Habitat, Leo Hannan Fisheries, Irv Carlisle Guide, Pau) Dale Agency, Dave Stephens 6. Unfinished Business Proposed resolution concerning state land disposals, sponsored by the Lands Committee. 7. New Business Presentation on bank stabilization engineering contract, by Mike Tauriainen, consulting engineer Discussion of the Preliminary Report of the Social/Recreation Committee 8. Staff comments 9. Public comments 10. Adjournment Kenai Rlver Planning, POUCh 7001,Anchorage, AK 99510, Anchorage 2762653 < 10`7 , Kenai Area Office, 8oz 1247,Soldotna,AK99669, Soldotna 2625587 'L~~ Kenai Peninsula Borough, eox 850, Soldotna, AK 99869, Soldotna 262-A441 0 Alaska Division of Parks and Outtloor Recreation, Department of Natural Resources, in cooperation with the Kenai Panlnsula Borough. CzUIDE Cl~tiP11TTEE . l.R.S.M.A~. ADV CRY G~`1At:J r°linutes 1Cr-14-B5 f°leeting convened in the Yenai Peninsula Boro~.igh Asserr~bly Chambers at b:35 p.m. Members present were Chairman Pa~.rl Dale, Irv Carlisle, Dennis Ronda, Harry Gaines, Bix Bonny, Jae LLr,gston, and staff rnernber Walter Yd~~rd. Absent was Jahn Hanson. Ele~~,~en members of the public present. Dale suggested that the committee should deal with those agenda topics ttrst had pre~riously been postponed pending the outcome of the Sccialf~°.erreatianal Committees r-ecornmendations regarding boats and rrintarS and rerUested ar~y additioriai agenda topics. Aaende topics listed ~,vere ~~ 1} Hours arld D6U°~~!f gl7ltle Opi~railarlS 2} Regalation format for park permit stipulations 3} Ciutfitter and Pental Boats 4;~ Fee structure for commercial acti~,1ities t~otr an: by Lar~gstan f second by Gaines, That the hour and day restrictions on guide operation be lifted. Disc~.rssion. Carlisle opposed because of the threatened legal challenges to tl~ie 35 W,P lirriitation recrrnrr~ended by the board. 6'ix es;pressed his Corfu=ion regarding h1a';~~ this board could recommend tf~e rela,<ing of a reg,.riation that Carrie out of the Board of Fisf~~eries, and stated that he felt that tl~ie reasons for tree hour an,9 day retric:tians are still valid. tangsten spoke in fa~rcr of the motion ar~d pointed out that the Giride Carr~mittee sf~~ould tie abl?. to vote on tf~~ese issues in sa far as theca are State F'ark pcr~r,it stipulptiorra regardle:_,s of tk~hat the Board of Fisheries might or rrut;i-a r:ot ~~.e, 's,'ard printed c~.rt that rerna+.~ir.q tlta restriction: from the r~~rk's permit would still 1eo~+s t}-,e Fish ~: Garr,e regulations iri effect, but ttlat it wrauld clear the ~^rai~ tar passible o~harn~e in tho:,e regulations as 1•r.ss deemed appropriate. Lannston painted out tflat the 35 HP restriction would make it difficult for- guides to gi~,e tv;~a qualit,~ trips Fier dey witf-iin the 6 a.r7i. to 6 p.rn, lir~iitatians r: id Fish ~:. Game's creel census data sho~n~s t`~r+~t the public has rriade veru little use of the before and after hours i r,ri~rds r~,~l~iicl~~ was the original basis for the restriction. Gaines suppartad tl,_~ rtiotian stating that tftt. 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. restriotian causes an unr~ecesseru ru~ah of guide beats gair~g,.rp and dov,~n ti~~e river at the opening ar~d r_ osing times, adding to the m~erall r_.ongestior~. Lengstc,n pointed out r.l~rat lifting the restriction 1'r~ouid also allay;v the guides to fish the rnarning tides. 6'onr,,.; appa~ed the motion contradicaing the use of tl~~e data Guide irornmitteF' ir;utes 10-14-85 Paae 2 regarding fishing activity before and after guide hours and stating that in f pct the rcgulatian should be changed to Ge 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. to compensate for the time change. Ne aiso pointed out that much of the public testimony dealt with the competitian from guides on the river which the hours of operatian regulations were designed to reduce. More discussion regarding the effects of the 35 HP restriction on guide operations. Langston pointed out that because of the difficulty of maving five people upstream, it is likely that most of the fishery vrill change to backtrolling and backt~ouncing instead of drifting. Bonny brought up the corr,plaint of some guide boats rna~~ring do~wnri~der before fishing hours and tieing up a hole. Langston painted out that it is like?i~ that the fishery will change to where g!.aides and oti~,er fishermen will w:rk each hole thoroughly as they move do~,^rn the river. Gaines pointed au'. the benefit of less tendency for boats to n:r7 up and do~n~n the ri~-;er for transpartatian. More discussion of merits of the ariginal n~iotion. Banda suggested an amendment to the motion to deb vv:th the noise issue migl~,t be in order. Langston said that he would suppart a restriction of no motor operation on the river between 1©p.m. and ~ a.rn. if it applied to everyone and nat just to guides. flare discussion on advantages of removing the "race track start" element of the restriction. Gi.:ide t:harlie Dixon stated that he attended the meetings where the haur :;nd day restrictions Vvere enacted and the reason that the regulation was e:r,acted ~,^ras an allocation issue, to allocate sor7~~e of the fish that wo,.rld I~a~de been caught by Guided anglers to nan-guided anglers. He stated that it_ s_hauld be ria part of a park: permit s~tipulatian. Gt:id> Gar, F'ir~g cornrnented that a lifting Of the hour restrictions would f?~~~de the pasiti~;~e effect of red!rcing the concentration of guide boats at u~r,~i pc,rticuler haur cf the da~a sir,~ce g,.:ides ti~~ould not all be r,.:nning inn tf~~e s:erne scl~~edule and many would ta4:e se~deral 1-,a~.rrs aff in the middle of Cite day. bonny stated that the purpose of tf~,e Fish c Game regulatian on guide hours ~~,v~~s not allocation, but ratl~,er public relations, that it ~^ras a proposal for better F.R. for the g,.rides concei~,+ed of by Eab Ragland and several others. Lruide. Larry S~.riter stated that ti~~hen the reg~.rlation was made it was portrayed to the guides as allac:atian. iir,re disc~.rs~"ian. 4~lard asked Langston and Gaines if they thought that Borne g~.rides might try to cram tf,ree trips in per day if the hour Guide Cammittee !nutes 1U-14-85 Page J restrictions were lifted? Langstan replied that it would be almost an irnpo~sibility for a guide to keep that up very long. P1ore discussion. Amendment offered by Lanc :ton and seconded by Gaina_s add the phrase "ar,r that guides be lirnitetl to a maximum of two trips per day." Vote on the matian and the amendment: Gaines & Langston yes; Eor~rr;, Dale, Randa, Carlisle no. h1ation fails 2J4 notion: by Gaines !second by Langstan, That the hour restrictions an gr.~ide aperations be lifted and that guides be limited to a maximum of two trips per day. Amendment try Dale ! secanded by Gaines, that the haur restrictions be m~~~ified to prahibit guide boat aperatian betvreen the hours of 9 p.m. and 5 a r~. ar~d %hat a recorr~rnendatian be sent to the Sociai!Recreationai Committee asking them to recommend these sarr,e haurs of closure for all motorboat activity on the river. Same discussion. Guide bob Saxton stated that he thought that a restriction on all rndtarboat activity bet.^reen the hours of 9 p.rn. and 5 a.m. is a super good idea to give the fish a cf~;ence and the river a rest. Asrrendenent by Carlisle !seconded by Gaines, that the hour restrictians be ci?ar fed to 4 axri. to 6 p.rr,. and that a recarr?r??endation be sent to the _=CialJr.eCreatianai COn1P"nitt88 askir?g therti t~~ recommend `Chat the 8ntire ri+;~er be closed to all rr,atorboat activity betvaesn the t"ncurs of i0 p.m. and ~d a.rn. Disi!.iesion cm tF,e an",endrner~ts and prai:edural clarification. Vote an the Carlisle Amendment: Dale, Randa, Langstan, Gaines ar~d Carlisle yes; Eonr?y na. ArnendmFnt passes 5r' 1. 'gate on the Date Amendment: t1atior~ died Q!o. fvmer~idment try Randa ! secor",ded by Carlisle, that in order to encourage da~.;e1eprrier~t of a drift boat fishery, that fishing frarr, non-matori~ed guide boats be all~~~~rY~ed bet~.veen the ho~.rrs of e p.rn. fo 1U p.rn. C?isci.rsion on arr~endrnent. G~.ride Dan Ring stated that the ~~rr?endrnent tiaras for a special interest. Bonrua Stated that the laasenirlg of these guide Gi.;ide Cornmitte~ mutes 10-14-85 Page 4` restritaions ~^ras helping the guides at the expensa of the nan-guided p+.;blic. Langsr.en stated that the public doesn't want a r,r~n-pawered fishery. Carlisle painted out that this wouldn't be a excl+.rsi~-,e drift fishery and further, that he is yet to have a conflict with anon-pa~wered drift baet and wauld like to see action such as this that would encourage that kind of fishery. Vote on tfle Randa Amendment: Carlisle, Dale and Randa yes; Banny, Langston and Gaines no. Mation fails 3/3. Gt3ide Larry Suiter made the camrner+t that P1r. Carlisle should take a patrol up the ri~~rerbank starting just belo~^r Sterling and go right +.rp to Kenai keys and start, asking Borne of the alder, displaced residents if they want to ga to a drift Irs"~erg.....suggesting that i;e rrrght be surprised at their ans;'~rer. Ce ~tiale responded that he vould rush and try to get up tf+ere first thing in tl~+t~rnorr~ing. h1r. Suiter e*pressed his appreciatian. Call for a vote on the original Gaines f°lotian with the Carlisle Amendment. Restating of the rr~ot~an and amendment by staff member 1^tard for clarity: Motion restated: Tl+at the h~aurs of c~peratiilns far guides be ohanged to 4 a rn. to 5 p.m. and that g+_;ides be limited to twa trips per day, and that a recornmendatian be ser+t to the Social/Recreational Carnrnittee asking there to r-ecamrnend that the er-~tire ri~;~er be closed to all rnatorbaat activity bet;^~~een tl+e f~+aurs of 10 p.m. and 4 a.m. '~d®te on %he Motion and ~mendme;rt as restated: Gale, Carlisle, Gaines, PBr~lda, and Larnastan UI=.s; Borrru no. 1'1'~;tlan passes 5f i. FiatlCln: by Langston / SECat'ided t~'.~ Bonny, To send a recornrnendation to the c~~ociallRr-::creational C:nrnrnittee'askiny them to recarnmi~nd that any person Oper;i.h~ng a boat net be alia~n~ed to fish ~~rhile tPie boat is in motion. flrlcluding drifting ~~~itf~l pa;^ier cuff} Giscussion. Lanoston camrnented on the safety h~iazard of a person truing to o~~~erate a t,oat tih~Piile tlleu are playing ark landing a fish. It was painted o+.;t tl~+at this motion ~~~rol.rld prevent people fror~~ fisl~lir~g by themselves L;r~les_~ they anc:hared. Bor~r~y stated that tf~~e motion is full of holes, but tfr~t ti?e ~~ocialf!-'ecraational Cornrnittee v~;•auld be happ+,i to handle it. ~~ate on the P~4ation: C?aie, Gaines, Langston, Randa ar~d Borrr~~y yes; Ca;~lisle op~~~osed. Motion passes 511. Gui~~e Committe6 ,,mutes 10-14-85 Page 5 2} Regulation format far park permit strpulattcns. Discussion of the need for certain stipulations to become regulations for easier enforcement and to facilitate the changeover of tfte guide permitting from Dept. of Fish fir. Carne to the Div. of Parks and O. R. Madan: by Gaines i second by Carlisle, That the appropriated permit stipulations be incorporated into park regulations. Dale spoke in favor of the motion, pointing out that the 8aard of Fish regulations may not be around forever and these regulations are more properly part of the park regulations. Bonny spo4;e against the motion stating that regulations are tro difficult to cf~~angeand adjust. Staff ~~ it=~e! ~'~r -`,- ~-iii IfT9d fw.t, r,r~7~ , r~'., q~~~. lri jf c+~j hVi trl e!lf OrCing perrrl't stipulations and explained the need for the regulation format. Much more discussion pro and can Pate an t?'ee Nation: Carlisle, Gaines, Dale, a~.d Randa yes; bonny and Langston no. Motion passes 4i 1. 3} Outfitter and Rental 8aats. Tf~e chair suggested and the committee unanimously agreed to table this topic until the next r~ie~etir~g so that John Hansen could be present since he is directl~~ affected. 4} Fee structure for corr~rr,ercial activities. tbatian: by Gaines f second by ~onml, That the fee schedule for sport fisi-~ir~~q guiiiss remain the same as in 1D85. x$150.00 AF; R'esid~~rit1$,450.00 ~,rm-re:,ident} h~lo disc:ussior~. V't?t.~ on the Motion: Ciale, G;ine~a,, 6onr~y, Randa, ar.d C:ariis1e u_es; Lar~,gstan na. r°lotion passes 5f 1. Li1sCa18siC~n of tre fee StruiaUr'e firt" atfser"C0rr1n'lef"clal aper'atCirS. Caine.°~ a_kad for a clarificatii~n of wheitl-~er further public notice is required. €~atian: bra r=onr~y f sea7r~d by Gaine~_, That ever~~ guide on tl~~e P;enai Ri~~~er, ~ti~,~~l7eitlier for recreational boating nr" fishing, tie charged a uniform permit fee. Ciiscussion i~f differi~nr,es bet~~~,~een fishir7g g~+.rides and the upper river flaFit g~.ride operatior~~s. Clarification of the float. c~rrtpanies concerns by staff member ;^tard. G~.ride Comn~~itte€ mutes 10-i4-85 Page b' notion to Tabte the nation: by Ronda, to allow the drift companies an opportunity to come and defend themselves in person. f1otion died for lack of a second. ?~i0 more disc~.usion. Call for the question. Vote on to notion: Bonny, Carlisle, Dale, Gaines, and Rar~da yes; t~5ngston rN. Motion passes 5/1. Discussion of Charter Boat Taur Operators. Consensus of the committee tf~~at the last motion passed applied to al' commercial operators in the Kenai Ri~,~er Special Management tires. ~'and~a brot~~:;f~~t up an old business item of ~.he drafting of a motion regarding tt~ie problem of enforcement against unpermitted guiding op~ratior~s on the aver. This topic ~~as again refered to stbff for ti^rording and clarification. nation to Adjoarn: Passed by ~.inanirnous consent I°leeti,7g 5ujru,rned at c:5U p.rn. GUID` COMMITTEE K..R.S.M.A. AOVi` RY BOARD ' i~iinutes 10-21-85 f"eating convened in the Cierk's Conference Roem of the Kenai Peninsula E!orough building at 640 p.rn. rternber s present ~^,rere Chairman Paul Date, Harry Gaines, Ir~;' Carlisle, Jof~n Hanson, Joe Langston end staff member Walter Ward. ~% ~~~ ~ ~'~ ~' Absent mere Dennis Ronda and Bix Bonny. Tf~~ree member: ~;f th-~e public present. Group discussion an additional topics for tonight's agenda. ': ;~,a ti Agenda: 1} Rental Boats and Outfitters {further discussion/letter recei~~rer. ir-i~rn "Kenai Drifters"} 2} Destn_.~~ated Funding ~ Di_ci,3si~: ~ cf t~~~:~r trot pr opcsr~7 .JJ r-iP littritat,on °rriii affect guiding and other cornrnercial operations ~ 4} Disarssion of Guides transporting bank fishing clients in guide boats ors Sundays an,d i°ionda_ys in July 5} Fishing rnear~s and methods Sui~~e clarification disc~.!asion on agenda ite~rn ~'4 and re~,~ie~rv of last years list cf items tabled tip 1980. Staterner,t by 4dard regardir7g tk~~e need for the cornrr~ittee to act quickly on any items desired to he placed in the furry of ne;^r reg~.llations for- 1986 beoause cf the timing of tP~e reg~.rlatior7 packet to be prepared for p~.rblic hesri r gs. C;isc~.:s:_ion of tfte need for a notice to be sent to ail pf the permitted o~rides to advise tf~~em of if~~e recent i~~orsepo~^rer reconir~~er~dation made by ''+~ advisory board tiMP~~i~~h is antiL:ipate~d to be in effect for t}~ie 1986 - ~~_~~s~u?, and to ad'~ii3r~ t}te~~n1 rrf the regtfleti0ri forrnatii}n process, Ur-~anirnous agr-eemant. Discussion of t.P~e need to send a notice tp all of tfie pern~~itted r~orrfishir~g r;i.rides to ad~•~ise tht;m of the recornrns~nd~atinn that tf~iey also t,e cilargw.d a g~,i~~e pG~rrnit f~_e of $.iSO.!?~7 AK Reside=nt 1 $~~+5~:~.~70 felon-R.e.:ident annually be-ginning ire the 1986 seas~~nso that tl~~ey can plan accordingly. [nlr~,anirno~.rs 2qt"eet118nt. O!_r,estinn from hlarreen regardirsg agenda item; =2 C~e~siynated Funding and tf~~e rfteiT~~-~ hande.d oi.rt from tte State Pena Eci~nor~~ic Fragrar~~ flanage.r Fred '.%reernan. Discussion of tf~o apparent patf~;~,~ray for achieving ti~~e designated iuridinq desires of tf~ie committee. Guide Carnrr~ittel mutes 10-21-B5 Page t} Rental Boats and Outfitters- Discussion of items previously passed by the caW~mittee, rarr~ely: That the Di~~rision of Parks & Outdoor Recreation issue Outfitter Permits to those persons who rent boats, equipment, supplies or other like materials intended to be physically used t~rithin the P:enai Ri~rer Special I7anagernent Area and ,that in tf~ie case of rental beats, a permit sticker be issued for each boat. Outfitters be required to carnply with the fallov,~ing items: a} Rer~tai beats identifiable by company Warne ar~d boat RR {painted or affixed to bath sides of boat in 6"figures}. b} State Parks Outfitter Permit Sticker affixed to each boat. c} Boats equipped to conform vrith all applicable U. S. Coast Guard regulatirns and applicable state laws and regulations. d} Provide proof of liability insurance coverage to a rninirnurn of $t OO,OOU per individual i 3:500,000 per event covering operation of the boat by the renter, and Warning the State of Alaska, Di~disian of ~ Parks arnj Outdoor Recreation as "the additional name insured." e} Outfitter pay an annual permit fee of $150.00 far Alaska Residents or $450.00 for N=gin-Residents to the Di~~rision of Parks and Outdoor Recreation. Tflare ti^ras di~.i:ussion to the effect ti~~at the permit stipulations and prequalification criteria that vrere applied to tide G~.ride Permitting praceas sl~icurld also be applied to a~_rtfitters if they are appropriate. The applicable preq~.ialifii~~ation criteria wo~.rld be: f} Cornpletian cif Outfitter Permit application in f~rll. ~,.. a:.. g) r i Ci'v"iuulg a pliuta5tatlw C:npt~ Of the Ala~,k5 Giusir"lesa ~iCer°~oe far° th8 t. a f-1 tl 8 3' . h? Prc~'•:'idir~g e pi~iotostatir_: copy of the Certificate f Autl~roriiy to ct:liect I:enai Fer~ins~.tla Bcrro~.rgh ':.ales Tax for ti~~e business acti;~ity, if located iW the !<erroi PeninsuL_°E~nrough. i} Pro~~ride the AK rxrn~~bers for eacf, peg^rerbaat to be ranted far i.tsG on tl~e Kenai Ri~~rer with cur~re~nt registration. C:~iscussion initiated by Langston req~ardinq the potential increase in rental t~oets cau~aed tea the limitiWia of guides and tPie 35 HP liW~it. Decision to react to that crisis when and ii it occurs rind to monitor any increase. t1~~rough the parmittir~g prac:ess suggested. h1r~re diacu~ssion an fees initiated by Langston covering reasar~s for fees, rie~_,ignated f~.rndiru~, ralatior~si~~ip of c~.rrrant fees to carrimercial operator fees in other :dates, end speculation cn the likelii~~aod of percentage of i,ross fees. P!o further action taker, Guide Conimitte~ ~iruates 1~-2i-G5 Page 3' Discussion of the effect of the proposed 35 HP limitation on the g+.ride ilSinessBS. General discussion on the effects of the 35 HF limitgtion end suggestions being r:iad8 to lessen the impact. Langston made the point that most of the g!.rides are probably better financially able to sustain the loss in changing to a srrialler Goat acid motor tPu9n the public large boat owner is s~ir~ce the guide can ~^rrite it off as a b!.rsiness loss on his income tax, but added that none of tfle g~.rides war-!t to )i,e ti~~ith tfle v5 HP limit. Hanson Drought up ttie topic that D~.rsir~essrnen need a "grace period" to pI~!ase in major changes such as this so that they carp plan and snake re,asonatrle decisions to adj~.~st their Gusir~ess to accornod~ate the change. Lar~ston stated that t}ie irr,pact will De snore cme of decreased safety than en economic since there will be smaller boats tieing operated i!n propellers during lo~rv ~hrater conditions. Carlisle stated that it is likely that there ~~rill De e~~~en fe'rver accidents ~,~hen all of the boats on the ri~,~er are more or less tiie same size instead of the current safety hazards of operating small Doats irs a mitred err:~iranrnerit of lac ga boat:.,. Gicc!.;ssion of the reduced safety of a small bo,:,t ~^rithout a console hecau:;e of reduced G~isibility for tfie operator. G.tide Tirn B-rg made tfie staterr,er~t sG',_•aking for ~5 to ~G guides stated th.it fie hasn't iie~~rd any of tliern s~~y that they could li~~re'r~ith a 3°~ HP r estricttion or tli't they arer!'t going tc be financialli_; im~,.rt.ed bra this c'acision. He stated that a rut of tllern te~ai it would tie nice to ha~de sorr!e :;ort r!f Pn_:rsepotih~er lirnitution but that it hoc to De something that e'r:r'Ui~rlr, ,,r,ri 11'JA, ~^~ith. Ma ::;tatE3d that: trio gL11dr :, c,~~nnot operate vrith 35 ~"i;"' l110to,r"s tlr'iaU';8 if!ey bra 1!.;3t t' C~ sr'r!a)1 iot 6l1U tl.l[ie iii i:oriir7ierCl51 crJerstion ~^rhiere tii8 g~.;ide rra~r~ts to pi_rsh four cli~7nts up the ri~,~er. He ~~tated that guides need to tie bb'fe to use a'rror6;horse type motor so that tflr~y c:an get reasonatiie. us~~ out of their equipment. l~ l,irger motor thbt can tic throttled Dark is snore rerasiiri~at!le for a cornrnr_rcial operation than n.,r~nirnj ~, :.`,5 HF motor at f~.rll tEirrttle all of tfie time, Dlo'n~ing up motors fregirentlil. He steed that the guides would li6;e tp come up to rnorc suitable sized motor tP:~t ttieia could vi~ori; t,~itii and lit~~e with for the long to!rrn. Guides don't 'Nant to sea the re'so!.rrce dbrriaged or destroyed Dut they d0 I'15Ve t0 Gor131deP- tl?e. eGOllor,ii~;g of th81r Orieratlori In relatlori to the rescu.+rce, acid the propoaed ~5 HP restriction is going to impede the guides acid clients use of the raso~.rr ce. He stated that tf~ie guides would acre-pt a eorriprornise po~s~ition if it ti^~~bs phiased in to gi~de thorn adequate notice. G!.ride Committee'"mutes 10-21-85 F'age 4 Guide Bob Barton stated ti"~at most of the guides knew that s motor limitation ~^ras probably coming, but that he and others believed that it was going to be a limitation to 4-cylinder motors and had purchased motors and beats acr_ordir~gly. He stated that he and his wife will be facing a $70,OG0 loss in equipment changeover in a single year if the 35 i-iP limitation is implemented. Tim berg stated tl~~at he spent tti^ro months out of state last year doing researcf"~ to determine the rninirnum horsepower motor that would efficiently propell five people in several different types of boats. He stated tl~~at Pie ti^rasn't able to gi~•re this information during the three minutes ti~~at he was allowed to speak at the advisory Goard meeting. He statr.d t1"~at a 4rJ NP motor pra~,+ed to be ~~daq~.lete for a rnanusl tiller steering boat bi.rt that there was impro'red control and safefy in a console steering system, and that for that a 50 HP or 60 HP motor was required, dellendir~~g on ti~~e rr~anufar_.turer. Ne ::fated that he put two of these Goats on the ri~,~er last season to field test them and set an example. 1^tard stated that this is certainly valuable ir~forrnation, but questioned ~rvf-~y it had riot been presented to the ~ocialfRecre°tional Cornrnittee earlier ~^r!7er~ theca had soiicite.d ~,vritten proposals and public cornrnent rr~eetin:a ~wcre t"~eld ir7 5oldotnr~ and ~nchnrage? Tim Berg replied that ha I~radn't presented the study results because he and others had not anticipated tl",at the board ~^ra.rld_ recornrrn~~r"~d such a severe horsepower lirnitat.ion ar irnplernent it so quickly, ar~d therefore thought that they ~~,^~~i.:ul,d be in gt~~od slrope as far as being readyto r?o with 4~ or 50 horsepower. `v'lard queeair°~ned the t~^ro guides present V,~heither they felt thatbecause of the corru~r~erci,al concession nature of the guide operatiur~s and the ability to r8i?UI;jY.e t!i% quld25' aCtl',ritle°, tl"IrnUi{n p8ri1'llt stlpUlati0n5, ll~a% u :~peCaal exCeptlOn sf"IOUld be made to allu`r1' gUldes t0 Operate i~1'lth larger" rr,Otors th,ar"i the general public i.~~ pear?fitted to use? Bob ~~axtor, expressed ~.or~cern that a special er,ceptii~n juat for guides ~rrould open tf"~em up to f~_;rt~n.r criticism frOri~ the p~.rblic regarding their larger boats. wle ~~.;sqc+sted instead that boat oper~atr,rs be tested and licensed and that the t:;~~erators rriaeting a f;igrn=r° stanuar°d be alloti~^ed to use larger motors. fh_~re discussion bra the cornrnittee regarding the dasirablility Of allowing tl-~e ~~~.ride to bring forth a compromise position that they would support rr^~ tf"~en the i~uide Cornrnittee possibly recort7~~~er~~dir~g this corr~prornise to tl"ie full board at the. Plo'~,+ernber rneetir~g `~h~itf~i a request tf~iat the ;5 NP ~~ G~.ride Cornrni tet ~inute~_ 1U-21'-85 Page,;... lirnitatien Ge reconsidered. f°lore discussion on logistics of hearing this furtf~~er ir~~put. Langstcm indicated that the guides are having a meeting in tl~;e next fe~v days and tl;et he and Harry Gaines would Ge better able to represent the ,aides' position on this topic after that meeting. Carlisle rnade the point that if they can achieve agreement cn this issue and speak iorrnost of the 155 permitted fishing guides, that they would have a lot rr!ore strength in trying to effect a change. i~~otion: t!y Hanson /second Gy Gaines, To inform the President Jeff Jefferson and the State Parks administration that the Guide Committee intends to hold a special rr~eetinq on PlovemGer 4, i~3o5 to allow the guides to pr~e~::ent f~.rrthar information regarding the potential effects of the p'r opo=,ed 1:~5 NP lirnitatinn ors their guide businesses and to present their alterl~~~ative comer-ormse prcposal re_,ardinq irnpiernentation of a ilorsepo`rver limitation whicY~ the majority of the guides agree to support. Tf~liF; infc!rrnation will Ge e~•,aluated by the Guide Cornrnittee and if found accepta.!le, adopted as a recornrnendation and transmitted to the full Advisory Board at tf~le 1`io~demGer 14th meeting with a request for reci,nsideration of the issue. Ti~lat a letter of notice Ge sent out to all of tl~le pc~rrnittpd g!.rides advisirn~ ti~lern of this rneeting and its purpose and t!`r32 ti~,,.'re not be a guilt meeting held orr October 2c?th. Ois,:ussinn i.n~i rnotion. Tirn Berg c:orrirr~~ented that he felt the special rt~leeting `was a Bond idea rind that he belie~•r~ed that the rnajoritl~ of tf~ie e•cti~~,re ol.lides could re~taeh a cor.~~prorriise position t!y that tirr;e, but tl~lat ...cde r!, ~t ~. ";US tie COri1e ^y tPd•S `i'r'f10 i^llli ri~~i Cyr c'e tf r'o 1 h, ~ °u:iirig `rri in. r,r"~Il.'j_ ~'C1%lon GeCal.lS[? Uf t1181r (J}1~n partji:ular" SItJ.latlorl ~"1Gt-e dISLUGSIOn 6iufion passed lay unanimous consunf. .li_3tt' Pc , :. '•!;~;; rC~.~al''"..t~'0 Tn pr ~'.~ii° G ~7CISIl'".VI UhBi7?idL!'1 i'I~I UI ii ir_ c~.arr~r,t ,guide boat si~etrnotor horsepo ;•er presently in use ar~d ti, rnail tP~is o the rorrirnittee mr=mbrrs hefore ti~~e next n~ieeting. h'Qii~n: tai Gaines I second by Langston, TI-lat tl;e Advisory Board rer~nrr~id~:r tl~ie rnotion placing a moritorii;rn nn the g~.rides and that r~o ni!rltori~.rrr~ be placed or; the g!.ride.s until a season has passed to justify sur'~f!ly and dernand fitr the guide ser~~,ices Cased upc!n the recorrimendations t,eing adopted Gy trie board tP~is ile,ar. Di cus~sicu~l rey~~rdirn~ the issue and the reasons that the guide rnernbers of tPie curnrnittea appear to ha~-,~e cl~langed tl~leir position !7n this topic. uuide Commrnitt Mirnates 1U-21-85 Page' Langston stated that he is not opposed to a ore year freeze on the guide nurr,bers t~.rt that he's no longer sure that a perrnnnent moritorium is tiie spray togo in light of the other Herr restrictions. Gaines painted out that at the tune that the rnoritcriun? was voted on tna the committee that t!?ere arras unlimited horsepo~^rer, and that the new se~tere horsepa~r~~er restrictions rr;ay create the need for mnre guides, and that nobody knows yr}?at that rramber is r;o~rv. P-lore discussio;i. Carlisle pointed out that this rnoti on and reopening this issue at this tune would have t}?e likely effei . of damaging the chance for any compromise on tl~;e horsepo~n~er issue to taFie place. Gaines suggested that the motion could be amended to tie a temporary hold on t}ie guide rnambers, but not a parrnanent limit. Carlisle pair?tad out that there 4vill sane form of ongoing k;enai Ri~,~er ad~~isory bnsnd that ,.^~o~ald presun?ably be able to recornrner;d an adjustment of tlie. nllrilber 01 guid pe'rrr'ItS if rieeila~l in thE' fG~t_1re. ("lore discuJdcron. ~ic,rion to Tab3e the ~tetins~: by Gaines, Ur~ar~irnous consent. h1ee.tirig ad;ourned at 9:G0 p.m. October 1, 19&5 Jeffrey Jefferson, President Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board 215 Fidlago Street Kenai, Alaska 99611 , RE: Minority Position on the Report of the Social/Recreation Committee Dear President Jefferson, As a member of the Social/Recreation Committee I regret that I feel compelled to declare this minority dissent with reference to the recommendations the Committee has made to the Board. I do not believe the Committee's work has been systematically com- pleted. I do not believe the recommendations can stand the test of reason which may arise in litigation. Finally, as isolated recommendations in the absence of a clear, overall plan they will not generate the necessary public support to be effective. pgrsonal Overview ,off ~ Future River The Kenai River Special Management Area in the year 2000 which I would like to see and which I think would be consistent with SB 417 is an area which: provides all necessary protection for the resource while providing the greatest diversity of recreational oppor- tunities for as many people as are compatible with resource iua li.t enan%e. provides areas particularly in the reaches above Skilak Lake where non-fishing, passive uses of the river can be carried out in a "natural" setting. recognizes that the intensively used area below the Soldotna Bridge is and should be maintained as an ac- tive, developed recreation area in a semi-urban setting with use limitations established on the basis of resource protection and public safety. minimizes use of the river as a purely transportation corridor in light of the proximity of a roadway system which allows movement from one major section of the river to another. recognizes that the portion of the river from approxi- mately Eagle Rock to the Inlet has special qualitiies not present in other sections of the river and may be suitable for certain activities which would be undesir- able elsewhere in the river. accounts for a reasonable distribution of bank users (fishermen, picnickers, etc.) throughout its length. recognizes the full potential of the two major lakes in the system to provide specialized recreational opportunities. addresses the appropriate relationship between the urban centers (Kenai, Soldotna, Cooper Landing, etc.) along the river and the social and recreational uses of the river. These types of objectives and more will have to be stated before specific recommendations can be made to achieve them. ~ytic},gs ~ ~j~ Committees Recommedations The recommendations which the Board is receiving from the Commit- tee fail in my opinion for, at least, the following reasons. The Committee has not described what the river of the future should be, so there is no way to judge whether or not their recommendations will achieve the desired re- sults. Much of the data which was available to the Committee was not reviewed prior to the passage of the recommenda- tions, and some of the recommendations bear no relation- ship to the data which was considered. There were a number of alternative ideas offered for addressing some of the issues which the recommendations address. These alternatives were not discussed as pos- sible choices in place of the recommendations which were delivered to the Board. speed signs - alternative to motor size speed zones - alternative to motor size enforcement - alternative to motor size and over- crowding fishing methods - alternative to overcrowding fishing zones - alternative to overcrowding user fees - alternative to loading limits The recently released Inghram report on erosion suggests a very limited relationship between boat traffic and erosion. The committee received no information to suggest a shortage of fish in the River or a direct relationship between boat traffic and damage to the fishery resource. The criteria which the Committee itself tentatively 2 adopted for making recommendations, if in fact they had followed it, does not lead one to the recommendations which the Board is receiving. I would urge you and the Board to difference betweer, recommendati adopted= and recommendations which this instance I am not questioning strongly suggesting the absence leading to the recommendations. recognize that there can be a ins which are democratically are logically developed. In the voting procedure, but I am of a logical thought process Alterative p,~gsoectives gD Committe~'~ Reco m nda ;on It seems to me the following recommendations are at least as reasonable and in most cases more so than those currently con- tained in the Social/Recreation Committee's report. I do not consider this list all inclusive but rather significant compo- nents of the eventual overall plan. My conversations with members of the Fisheries Committee suggest to me their recommendations will not strongly support the idea of large boats and motors being a major threat to the fisheries resource. If this is so, then there must be other reasons for limiting the boat and motor size on the river. According to the limited amount of data we have received from the Division of Parks on boat counts and descrip- tions, setting the horsepower limit at 35 horsepower (a size of motor which is only produced by three manufac- turers) would be changing over fifty percent of the boats. If the limit were set at fifty horsepower, a significant portion but less than fifty percent would be affected. We must scrutinize any proposal which suggests it is necessary to modify the use patterns of the major- ity of users to achieve the desired goal. Since it is unlikely many people would choose to sit out a four-to-six hour trip on the river with no chance of fishing it may be a limit of no more than four people fishing from a boat would achieve essentially the same ends as limiting the total number of people in a boat while still providing families and others with con- siderably more flexibility. I see no justification for invoking loading limits and horsepower restrictions in the 1986 season. No evidence of that level of crisis has been presented to the Com- mittee. It would be far fairer to all users and would not unduly threaten the resource to set 1988 as the target for full implementation. Discouraging use of the river as a transportation corri- 3 dor {a "highway" from A to B) would somewhat reduce the congestion and associated problems. The drift only zone below the Funny River may effectively reduce such travel between the lower river and the Skilak Lake area. It would seem reasonable to me to establish that zone on an interim basis for 1986 and 1987 and then make an evalua- tion of it and make the final determination to coincide with the 1988 motor restrictions. I believe there are a number of related and critical issues which remain to be addressed by the Committee. For example, What is the desirable level of use on the various sections of the river? What is the relationship of that desired level to the level of use currently being experienced? Will boat loading limitations increase the total number of boats on the river? What are the benefits of instituting a user fee? How would it be administered? Would such a fee unfairly treat any major segment of users? What is the proper role of non-fishing (planes, hydroplanes, jet skis, etc.) uses of the various sections of the river? What are the major "off-season" (October -April) on- river activities? Does the plan address these uses? Are controls of some type necessary? Is the prohibition of motorized craft or the limitation of motor size a legal action on a river system which has been officially determined to be navigable? Do the recommendations of the Social/Recreation Committee form a complete and effective plan when they are put together with the recommendations of the other committees? Will they achieve the protection we are seeking for the river? In the paragraphs above I have tried to suggest the nature and magnitude of the work which remains to be done by the Social/Recreation Committee. I would also suggest that ill-advised recommendations accepted quickly to accomodate a tight schedule may well be counter- productive and result in time wasted. 4 I believe the recommendations currently before the Board are sufficiently premature and unrelated to overall objectives to warrant my request that the Board instruct the Social/Recreation Committee to (1) withdraw its recommendations, (2) more systema- tically and comprehensively develop its recommendations and (3) resuiptnit them a~--~ future meeting. Sir}~¢erely, Harms/ Gaines ~~~~ ~® $~] ~ t®~~~ ~~ NEXT AI)t/i50&~Y ~®l~RD Id[EETdNG: ~1°I-IEdi IpIEETINGS SCEIE®CJLED: No. 11 September 27, 1985 Advisory Board: October 10, 10:00 a.m., Borough Building, Soldotna. For more information call 762-4515 or 262-5581. Agency Committee: October 3, 10:00 a.m., Alaska State Parks Office, Suite 1258, Frontier Building, 3601 C Street, Anchorage. Biological/Upland Habitat Committee: No meetings scheduled for October. T'~.f1NNING tJPI~ATE: Guides Committee: October 7, 14, 21, 28. 6:30 p.m., Borough Building, Soldotna. nds Committee - Work Sessions: October 5, 12. 10:00 a.m., Central Peninsula Hospital, Conference Room, Soldotna. Permits Committee: October 11, 9:00, Civil Defense Room, Borough Building, Soldotna. October 29, 1:00 p.m., Habitat Conference Room, ADF&G Building, 333 Raspberry Road, Anchorage. River/Fisheries Committee: October 2, 9, 16, 23, 30 Soldotna. SociallRecreation Committee: October 3, 10, 17, 24, 31 Soldotna. 5:00 p.m., Borough Building, 6:00 p.m., Borough Building, At the October meeting of the Kenai River Advisory Board, topics of discussion will include the recommendations of the Social./Recreation Committee and the Guide Committee. The Social/Recreation Committee will recommend that. the following limitations be placed on boats and boating practices beginning in the 1986 season: - a maximum outboard motor power rating of 35 horsepower; - a prohibition of jet pump units on motors; - the number of boat passengers should not exceed the number specified on the manufacturer`s capacity placard, or four adults, whichever is less. Two children under the age of twelve may be counted as one adult passenger, but in no case should the total number of passengers of any age exceed five. _~her recommended regulations and exceptions include: - no horsepower and passenger limitations on Kenai and Skilak lakes; - designating the areas from river mile 72.9 to Skilak Lake, and the area downstream of Funny River confluence to river mile 25.2 as non-motorized zones; - designating the area from Skilak Lake downstream to river mile 46.0 as a non- motorized zone between the dates of March 15th and June 14th. The Guide Committee will recommend that the Commissioner of the DNR implement a moratorium on the issuance of Kenai River Fishing Guide Permits as of September 9, 1985; that the total number of permits issued be set at 120 combined motorized and non-motorized permits, wixl~ a ,. ..,.a ~,.a , . ,._. ®~~- ~~ ~~ I~IEXT AI7l1i~®IIY I3®laRI3 n'IEETING: KENAI RIVER 9/t2/85, 10.00 am, Borough Building, tali 762-4585 or 262-5581. Social/Recreation Committee, Sept. 5,12,19 & 26. 6:00 pm, Borough ®TE[ER 1~EETIIV(~S Bui (ding, Soldotna. S CI-IEDIJLEI): Lands Committee Public Meetings, 9/9/85, 6:00 - 70:00 pm, Central Jr. High, 15th s E St., Anchorage. 9/11/$5, 3:00 5:00 pm, & 7:00-10:00 pm, Borough Bldg., Soldotna. 9/16/$5, 7:00 -° 10:00 pm, Community Ctub Cooper Landing> 9/19/85, 7:00 - 10:00 pm, City Mali, Kenai. Gi,ide Committee, Sapt. 9,16,23, & 30, 6:30 pm, Borough Bidg., Soldotna r'ermits Committee, 9/13/85, 9:00 am, Borough Bidg., Civil Defense Rm., PLAI~INING IJPI?ATE: ;-- Soldotna. 9/24/$5, 1:ao pm, Dept. Fish ~ Carne, 333 Raspberry Rd., Habitat Conf. Rm., Anchorage. 10/11/85, 9:00 am, Borough Bldg., Civil Defense Rm., Soldotna. Several. of the Kenai River Advisory Board sub-committees are working to compile their reports and recommendations, to be presented first to the Advisory Board and later to tdatural Resource Commissioner Esther Wunnicke. The committee work will be converted into a Kenai River Management Plan, scheduled for final approval in June 1986. At its September meeting, the Advisory Board will discuss the report of tl3e Biolo~icallupland Habitat Committee. The !.'0°page report discusses cdiidiife species and habitats of concern throughout the Kenai River watershed, divides the river corridor into six management units, ahd mentions numerous examples of management recommendations. Highlights of those recom- mendations include designation of a fish and wildlife habitat zone along the river, and prohibition of channelization, diversion, or obstruction of water flows which would lead to drainage of wetland areas. Copies of the committee report are available from: Kenai River Planning, Alaska Department of Natural Resources"Pouch 7-OOi, Anchorage, Alaska 99510. A teehnical group is studying the feasibility of the fish and wildlife habitat zone recommend- ed by the Biological/Upland Habitat Committee. The group will soon be reporting its findings to the River/Fisheries Committee. The Permits Committee has campiled the endorsed guestionaire, desiyned to assess public awareness and support. of permitting procedures. The Social/Recreation Committee recently conducted a series of public meetings in Soldotna, Cooper Landing, and Anchorage, where it heard a range of opinion on such topics as rec- reation facilities, boating practices, non-motorized river segments, and bank erosion. Meet- ing summaries are available from the address above. Kenai River Planning. The Lands Committee will soon be holding public meetings to gather opin°sons on the management and regulation of )ands adja cent to the river and lakes. Sample topics include fish and wildlife habitat zones, tax incentive programs for property owners, sign regulations, and recreational subdovisions. The schedule of meetings is listed above. The Guide Committee is reviewing the 1985 season, discussing problems and successes of the new guide permit system. The committee will be proposing revisions of the permit system, hacarl nn tha iQ~1C ®v~.mron..rn ~., .1 tha ra.-....,...a na~t6n.,c .,F sl.,, c,.~~~.i /o,.,.. ,..-,a :,.., T....,..,.w«,..._ ~~ t®g ®$~z~~ t~~~~ P~ NEXT AI311IS®I$Y B®A13I~ MEETING: Advisory Board, Septemr 12, 1Om00 a,m., Borough Lands Ccmanittee, August 15, 3x00 p.m., Borough Building, 5oldotna. Social/Recreation Committee, August 15, 29, September 5, 12, PLANNING [JPI)ATE: 6:00 p.m. , Borough Building, Soldotna. T.._ various advisory board subcommittees are busily concluding their research and beginning to formulate their recommendations for presentation to the full advisory board, The board intends to finish reviewing the recomu~ndations of all the sub-camnitte2s by December, 1985, and to pass its reccarmendations on to DNR Commissioner Fhumicke by January, 1986. The Social/Recreation Committee has scheduled public rr~etings to hear proposals and ideas from the public on recreational issues, such as fishing methods, boating praotices, and the need for public access and recreational facilities. The public meeting tins and locations are as followsc Soldotna, August 21, 3-5 p.m„ 7-11 p.m., Borough Building. Cooper banding, August 22, 7 p.m., Cormrrnu~ity Club Building. Anchorage, August 23, 3-5 p.m., 7-11 p.m., State Court Building, Courtroom C. For more information on the Social/Recreation Conmitte2 mieetings, contact: Bix Bonney, 561-5115, Tom Walker, 262-9419, or Dave Stephens, 265-4515. The Lands Committee has extended its deadline for the public to make written proposals concerning land use and develapm~nt ad jacent to the river and lakes. The new deadline is September 1, 1985. The committee has scheduled follow-up public meetings to hear verbal testimony on such topics as waterfront zoning, non-develont buffer zones, tax incentive programs, and sign regulations. The moetings are scheduled for the following tins and locationsc Anchorage, Septemr 9, 6-10 p.m., Central Jr. High Auditoriinn. Soldotna, September 11, 3-5 p.m., 7-10 p.m., Borough Building. toper Landing, September 16, 7-10 p.m., Ccxinnuiity Cluh Building. Kenai, September 19, 7-10 p.m., City Council Chambers. For more information on Lands Committee matters, contact Sharon Jean, 262-9011, Les Palmer, 262-4517, or Dave Stephens, 265-4515. The Biological/Upland Habitat Committee has also issued a call for written proposals concerning habitat values on uplands of the river corridor. They are very interested in knowing about areas used by animals for special purposes (eagle nesting trees, moose wintering areas, self denning areas, etc.) and their management. The deadline for written cona~nts or proposals is August 14, 1985. For more information, contact Leo Hannan, CC 7. 9011'1 s....«.. n"«3... 7^19 AG^IC ....~ rt-..... Cc.....b....... 1G G.. ACYC Biological/Upland Habitat Committee, August 14, 7.00 p.m., Borough ®THEIi MEETINGS Building, Soldotna. SCHEDCJLEII: puts Committee, Au st 14, 7c00 gu p.m., Borough Building, Soldotna. tiF,`I?.I RIVER SPGCiA 1ANAGEMFNT AREA ADVISORY 1RD !'1EE'LING MLUUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 KENAI PENINSULA BOR9UGft BUILDING The regular meeting of the Board was called to order by President JeFf Jefferson at iG:1G a.m. 2. ROLL CzLL MEIfBERS PRESENT: Jefferson, Jean, Farnsworth, Breeden, Evenson, Bonney, Barnes, Novy, nest, Gaines, Bowker, Gorbics, Hannan, Johnson, Krasnowski, Rumfelt. MEMBERS ABSENT: Da 1e, Carlisle, Monfor. ,t~'~~ ;;'.~ 3. APPROVAL CF MINUTES of August 8, 1985. -. STAFF REPORT i.~ A. Skip Harding 1. Expressed the director's appreciation with the speed and efficiency that the Board has been working. 2. Discussed the time frame for the Board's work. Explained the process that recommendations must go through to be implemented: Once the Board passes the recommendations they wi_1.1 go to the commissioner who ~.aill make recom- mendations including any amendments, Chey then go to the Parks staff who will work with the Department of Law to transform them into the correct legal language, public input will be sought (~.nc;.uding public hearings), changes will then be made, they will. then go to the Department of Law, the 1,ieutenant Governor will promulgate. If recommendations are received by November 15, the process can be completed by May 1, 1986. If it isn't possible to do this there may be diiPiculty getting regulations in place for next summer; it makes sense to do all of tkre regulations at one time. Jefferson expects that by t_he cor,cl~~s'ion of the October meeting the Board will bees ail of the recommendations appropriate for implemenCation ir, the 1935 season; the less urgent: ones to be handled later. E.arding said that that could be dc~e but would prefer r.ot to have it done that way for efficiency. He said the the Alaska Administrative Act requires public process; as a matter of policy they will incorporate public hearings. JF=an understood that whet, the re~.on:mendations came in from each committee that the Board would be hoidine heapsings cn those adopted and that the public needs to F;now chat these meetings are public meetings. She feels that the public is waiting For a series of recommendations to come out to respond. The Board will be in trouble if the public feels that they have missed their opportunity to testify-. Jefferson asked Stephens to make sere that the announcement for the next meeting incladcs the information that the m~eciegs include a public comment time as the proposai.s are considered. Stephens said th<t the way that has been handled is that the agenda has been highlighted in the Newsletter. He commc-snted that public hearings mean verv fort*ial proceedings where people step to the microphone, state their name and address anal their comments are recorded; public meetings are less formal and there is ar, exchange between the people who are conducting the meeting and those who are paticipating. During a pu6l.ic hearing, norma lly the Board conducting the meeting is the one that implements the regulation. -1- KRSMA MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 ?~ STAFF` REPORTS CONTINUED Harding feels that it was made clear at the Social/Recreational Committee meeting that committee meetings are public meetings and the re would be public hearings later before regulations are adopCed. The hearings that the department will hold are mandated by law; the committees' hearings are not. He was assuming that the Board would be co-partners with the Agency in hearing testimony at public hearings. The testimony is recorded and becomes part of the public record. Eyenson is concerned that each commit*_ee's recommendations will become "sacred"; things could fall through the cracks between the areas of each committee's respon- sibility. Asked Jefferson about his statement "integrated plan". Jefferson responded that he meant that all of the various sub-parts would be put together as a document which would represent the plan. The point of meeting once the document has been put together by DNR is to see how the recommendations have been incorporated; to make sure that important areas haven't been overlooked, or mis- understood. Evense^. a=_k~,~? if -_ ._.rz cerrecr to say that the Board's acceptance and approval of each committee's recommendations is contingent upon integration of all these things. If there are concepts in conflict then any later decision would override the immediate acceptance. Jefferson said we are now dealing with recommendations and then will be dealing with a plan; they are two different things. Whatever is recommended today is not something that the Board is locked into; it can be changeddoc.m the road. Bonney stated that the recommendations brought in by his committee are the result of public input. Think s. that the Board should be able to accept, reject or modify a recommendation but not, at that time, take further testimony from the public. Jefferson said that rules set forth how that is to be handled. Following debate by the Board the public will have ar, opportunity to present opinions. There are strict time limits. Jean thinks that since every person`s concerns cannot be addressed they will be interested in responding to the specificity of each issue; it is different from someone saying what they think in general terms. Lf the Board doesn't t.isten there will be problems. Jefferson asked whether or not the by-1a_ws should be modified so as to cut off ouu l.ic hearings in front: of the full Board on the passage of the recommendations. Bonney said that people can comment but debate and regulation should be passed before it is opened to the public. There is still time to comment at the public hearings. Eyenson is concerned about recommendations from two diff.erer.t committees conflicting. The committees were loosely established; the Bo=.rd could get locked into something that isn't best overall. Jefferson agreed but asked what happens next month when dealing with something that needs to be implemented for next season. Should these be viewed separately from other recommendations? Eyenson suggested that since each Board member is on at least one committee now, they should be very critical. of each recommendation. If each or,e is handled this way the problems can be minimized. Harding said that the final aim is not to produce a plan but to effect positive ct;anges on the river; the mechanism for doing that is public taw. At some point the full Board reeds to listen to the public. Johnson thinks that it is his job to see that the public is heard; is concerned about the regulations and private lands. motion was made and later withdrawn to have public comment after the vote by the Board. Debate followed: Bonney said that by law when the reguaations come out there has to be pub lic hearings before they become regulations. -2- KRSMA MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 4. STAFF REPORTS CONTINUED Jean feels that the Board would be remiss if not willing to listen to the public before adopting any reccmmendations. Best doesn't see how the the Board can vote on something and then hear the public. No one has been to all of the hearings (to get all of the public input). Bonney asked why have the committees if their recommendations aren`t going to be followed. (Withdreca motion.) He feels that this process further complicates the process. Is not Crying to cut out the public; has been meeting twice a week on it. Evenson commented that the work committees have been a way to gather public input in order to develop concepts; doesn't matter when public comment is held at the Board meetings. Is against passing these committee recommendations on to DtiR before hearing from all of the committees that is practical. With an overview there is a chance to modify some of them. Jefferson said that once the Board has concluded debate the floor should be open to the public nn that point. It will be the chair's responsibility to confine the debate and the time. There is nothing to prohibit any member at any time from calling the quesiton, Gorbics asked that once a public hearing is held if there is public criCicism of the recommendations would DNR come back to the Board or is i.t a DNR problem at that point? Harding answered that on a formal basis DNR would not come back to the Board; wouldn't want to go back through public hearings. That's why there is concern that the Board hear public testimony and present an integrated package of all the issues so that the Board is sure about what is being recommended. Johnson is bothered by what will DNR pay attention to; everyone has a different opinion on what is right. 5. COMMSTTGE REPORTS A. Social/Recreational, Bix Bonney Announced the resignation of Tom Walker from the Committee; Al :^Ihi.te will be replacing him. "Held public meetings in Soidonta and Cooper Landing that were well attended. In Anchorage attendance was pcor; was accused of scheduling the Anchorage meeti:_g to conflict with the Seward Silver Salmcn Derby and the State Fair to keep out the "big boat people". Went on record as saying that was not so. The committee is meeting weekly on Thursdays at 6 p.m. for debate ar,d discussion er' recommendations. First and most critical recommendations aoi 11 be mailed to Board members at least a week before the meeting; hcpe to have the remainder finished by the November meeting. B. Lands, Sharon Jean Public meetings will be held during September. Wi11 be developing recommendations through October and possibly Novembe=_. In view of the state's request, will attempt to move on those items that need to be turned ineo recommendations. t}'ants to have Kurt Glickersham talk to the Board about planning as an alternative to zoning. C. Chair, Sharon Jean Discussed the time frame for recommendations coming to the Board; co-ordinating with. other committees on recommendations before presentation to the Board. D. River~Fisheries, Jim Evenson Has not met this summer; most members have had time conflicts. btembers have done a Iot of reading and studying; cai11 have a lot of input if not specific recommendations. This is not the subject for public input, rather it is finding out whether there are answers for specific questions. This committee will not have as spectacular results as some others. KRSMA MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 !; S. COMMITTEE REPORTS CONTINUED E. P.gency, Dave Stephens Met to discuss the Biological/Uplands Habitat report. Several members were there others sent in written commen_s. Received no written. comments fr.;m the Borough, Fish & Game, Corps or Forest Service, therefore, must depend on those agencies to represent themselves here today. The overwhelming conclusion reached was that the Biclogical/Uplands Habitat Committee did an outstanding job in giving a frame work from which to work. Jefferson had asked the Biological/ Uplands Committee to extract the most important recommendations from the report and present that seperate ly; attached. The full report has more specific in- formation about species habitat values and distribution. It also has examples of management recommendation::; attached to different areas. It is not meant to be all inclusive. Ag_~ncy Committee wants to convene a technical group of pecple, biologists and permit reviewers, to begin work on giving those management objectives more detail. F. Pzm'_ts, Carol Gorbics Based cn the Agency Committee ;meeting Permits decided to pull together the Ad Hoc Committee used for developing moratorium guide Lines. Ad Hoc has worked at trying to develop implementation plans for Unland Committee recommendations. Fia r,s on 11 go to the Permit Committee before they come to the Board. The Ad Hoc Committee has beer. willing to help and the hope is to keep their help for other committees. Everything will go through the Permits Committee before coming to the Board when finished. AdHoc Committee meetings also open to the public. G. Guide, Bix Bonney ?'.eets Mondays at the Borough at 6:30 p.m. The Board will be receiving recommend- ations for some regulations including moritorium and attrition to a certain point on guides and guiding activity to include the handling of commercial rental boats. These will be coming up for debate, public input and deliberation in October. 6. NEW BUSINESS A. Proposed resolution concerningstate land disposals, sponsored by the Lands Go T,mittee Jean reported that at the last meeting Stephens presented a memo about a person leasing state land wanting to purchase it; asked the Lands Committee to comment. A resolution was developed and mailed to members to have the state not relir,ouish any lands until the mar,ag~ement psau is completed. Harding inform~~ed the committee today that the state is requesting that adopticr. (of the resolution) be post- poned because of some technical questions. Some concern on the Committee's ;art if the resolution is not adopted. JEAN MOVED THAT THB STATE CONVEY NO STATE. LAND WITHiN THE KFS@fA UNTIL THE C0~`~1- P':.ETION OF THG OCTOBER MEETING; SECONDED. Jean said that this is only a pcstponement in case there is anything pending. De=bate: Breeden is in agreement with the motion. Stated that throughout the Borough the state has been Forced to buy back land for recreational purposes, doesn't want to face this on the Kenai since we don't now know what lands are needed for parks, etc. Wants to see state lands reserved for the use of all the people. The state has enforced a moritorium on building on the river; it's long overdue for a moritorium on the disposal of state lands to~prevent having to buy them back. Cerbics wanted to amend ^withi^ the KRSPIA" Co "lands adjacent to the KRSh1A" oecause KRSMA is ordinary high water to ordinary high water. Stephens told the Board that there are some 55 ti~ear leases below Skilak Lake as we. 1.1 as state land in the upper river and Kenai Lake area, some of which -4- KRSMA MEETING MINUTES SERTEMBFR 12, 1985 6. NEW BL`SiNESS CONTINUED are under permit to private individuals under an old Forest Service program. it is those lands that will be affected by this resolution. He said [hat the more correct language would be "along and adjacent to the KRSMA". °onney asked for Harding's opinion before voting. Harding said that he had limited information. It is not so much a DNR oroblem with subs*_ance and direction but more of a technical one regarding specifically preference rights under adjudication of Forest Service lands. Received a call from the Division of Land and Water Management; they would like to talk to the Committee to discuss the technical difficulties so that thay could be incorpor- ~ted into the language. Hannan said that there are some permittees in the East Quartz Creek area who have first choice on the disposal of that land. It has been ongoing for over 3 years a 30 day delay won't make any difference. ~Sotion restated: JEAN MOVED TO POSTPONE THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION AND ASK THAT THB STATE \OT GCNVEY AMY LP."]P ?N THE NE`{T 30 DAYS OF I'NTIL TEI^ ".]E X,'" BO,q.RD ME TT_?'~ C?YTIL THE APPROFEtIATE TECHNICAL LANGUAGE CAN B"c INCLUDED IN THc RESOLUTION; PASSED WITH ONE OPPOSED. B. Presentation by Lee Westenburg, University of Alaska graduate student, concerning research findings,. questionaire results Apologised for the length of time it has taken to get the results. Hopes that the information will be of some value to the Board. The theory behind the project was mentioned. Recreational use on a site is going to be a function of the type and level of development in the site; there won't be heavy recreational use in the middle of an area without much development as opposed to recreation use on the Kenai River because of high access, etc. Different types of recreational users are going to respond differently to the imple*.nentation of a management plan. That is the focal point of the questionaire. Broke recreational use down by activity, identified some of the managerial interests, identified different types of user groups to determine how they responded to some of the management actions and projected the effect of the development of a plan c:, those groups baser on this infomation. There was no decision making designed into the research. IdenCified 5 types of users on the river: bank fishermen, boat fishermen, guided boat fishermen, river floaCers and general. No random study taken from users; an equal sample from each group. was attempted. Should give some good indicaitons of how the people on the river feel about. it. Keep in mind that it is not a random sampling r.or equally rep resentstive but broken up 6y the river. Ques- tionaire had 3 sections: general section of characteristics of users, a list of concerns and a series of proposed management actions. Study focuses most on the concerns of the users. Explainer the tables presented to the Board sho*.a- ing a summary of the data collected. Believes that people are wil.iing to accept core restricitons and that that won't prevent them from visiting the Kenai any more than the crowded conditions have proven*_ed [hem from having a good time. Pointed out that tables S and 8 have some of the most important information for the Board's use. Did an Item Analysis to see which 'items are val.ir; based o^ those a score was computed for users in terms of being in favor of more or less management. Questions: Barnes asked how many respondents and how large was the "other" group. b:estenburg told the Board that there were about 1,000 from 5 groups; 600 respondents to the questionaire (some were not valid) 500 - 550 valid responses. 100 - 125 for each group. The "other" group was the smallest; between 75 - 100. -~- KRSMA MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 7. OLD BUSI#JESS ' A. Discussion of Management Objectives and Draft Report of the Biological/upland t{abitat Committee Leo Hannan presented to the Board the framework. Said he saw the job of the committee as providing infcrmation and educational tools for the rest of the committees to use. Feels that the proper procedure is to come to the Board for approval of the entire report and the objectives. If approved recommends that it go to the Permit Committee for specifics. The Permit Committee has already established several. subcommittees and Che information can be used Co come up with their objectives f.or presentation to the Board. Reiterated that the members (of the committee) felt that their objective waseducation; feels they have done their lob. MOVED THAT THE BOARD ACCF,PT THE COiA1ZTTEE'S REPORT IN ITS ENTIRITY AS PRESENTED; SECONDED. Debate: Jefferson said that the motion includes asking the Board to adopt the recommend- aefons for management units based on the BiologicalJUpland Habitat Committee's species and 'habitat concerns (the fourth page of the report). The motion is also to forward this to the Permir Committee for implementation ofspecifics. Johnson spoke against the motion; feels that man, an endangered species, was left out. Hannan thanked Johnson for his input on the committee; he was a dissenting voice, however, he did provide valuable information. Breeden feels that there is no specific recommendation either for or against anything. Commended Hannan on a marvelous report, and asked him why there were no hard and fast recommendations. Hannan stated that he viewed the committee's objective as educational which means presenting the facts and that is what was done. How these facts are used is the prerogative of the Board and not the committee; the committee's charge was to get the facts to the Board. Breeden asked for further clarification on the proczdures. Jefferson stated Chat part of the motion was to send this to the Permit Committee and they would .formulate specific proposals based upon these general reccommendations. Breeden asked why the Permits Committee and not others. Jefferson answered Chat there is nothing to prevent other committees from doing what the Permits Committee is doing; the Permits Committee seemed to be the most appropriate to formulate specific proposals. Other committees can come up with other modifications. There was no public comment. QUESTION CALLED; PASSED WITH ONE OPPOSED. Jefferson brought up Che issue, discussed earlier, about the timing cf the recommendations. He stated that there are two situations facing the Board. 1) the adoption of recommend- ations as they come be Fore the Board for adoption in the overall plan, and 2j the adoption of reconnendations which may or may noC be included in the masterpl.an but which 'the Beard would like DNR to implement in 1986. Those recommendations which the Board would like to see implemented and in effect for 1986 must be given to DNR no later than November 15 in order for them to be drafted into regulation fcrm and to hold public hearing and comment periods. Evenson mentioned that any specific recommendation should be held i.n abeyance and considered a tenative approval until the entire plan is brought together. Then the Board will hold apublic hearing on the entire document, debate it and either pass --' it or vote against the plan. The October and November meetings nave been targeted foe considering recommendations from some of the committees. Zf a committee has a largz number of items for consideration it might choose a Eew for implementation in 1985, the rest would be part of the overall plan. The Board's approval of the entire plan would be tenative but thos-z immediate items would be implemented for 1986; the -6- KRSMA MEETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 7. OLD BUSINESS GONT'NUED next time the Board saw them they would be in regulation form and would be adopted. Bonney agreed that some of the recommendations must be dealt with for expediency in 1986, that doesn't mean chat they will be exactly the same for 1987. They might have to be modified to fit the overall plan. Jefferson said that the ones designated for 1986 woa;.d have the force of law if adopted. Modifications may have to be made after looking at the overall plan. Evenson asked i.f it were practical to change a regulation from 1986 to 1987. Harding stated that there is some concern that the plan not get too fragmented in the rush to get it done for 1986. Asked the Board to Cry to be as comprehensive as possible so that the public can see a whole package that doesn't change year after year. Jefferson said that the concern of the Beard is that they not get boxed in so that changes cannot be made once the entire plan is seen. Evenson expressed concern that one committee's recommendations might have a bearing on another one. The whole problem might -esalve itself nnw that it has been discussed, Gihen the time comes to vote there might be some things so obviously pressing that they will need to be ready in 1986 if aconcensus can be reached. Would rather see a good solution held offtill 1987 rather t~.han a bad one in 1986 because of a rush. Jefferson asked the committees to identify those items that are pressing for 1986. Johnson cautioned that some of these things will be taken to court; wants to see some attorneys give an opinion on what chance they would have. 8. STAFF COMMENTS Mr. Harding said there are a couple of Board vacancies. Jefferson said the Board would know on Monday. The procedures are that the Board members coi11 be notified in the next agenda package about any vacancy and would be asked to make recommendations for replacement. If the city of Kenai seat has been vacated then the city would be notified to appoint a replacement. 9. PUBi:C C011_'ENTS A. 91 White Inwatching this Boardfora long time; wants to bring something to its attention. Ii i were to brim seven "men of the cloth" together and ask them who the di.ety was they would give seven different answers. This is the way we're looking at the Kenai. Since we have called it a park everyone has his interpretation cf a park. So~T,e think it's where mother used to take me to swing is a swing, another thinks it's where I used to feed the ducks in Che pond, another of Yellowstone ?ark, another of Plt. McKinley. Before this Board will to 11. me anc decision they will have to realize that in this 100 miles of park everybody has his owa concept. of what a park is. Until they come to that consensus - that it is many things to many people - the first 15 or 20 miles is where people go to catch king salmon, that's all they care about, next part is where people want to step out of their house, get their boat, go to the fishing hole and go fishing, the next part is where they want to float down the river and take pictures. The Kenai River in 100 miles is 100 things. Because it is called a park I don't think we will ever make it a road river. Nor do I think that we want to make it a concrete slough ?ike Lcs Angeles. Every place that you look at you've go to think about. It's not going to fit even in but there is somewhere in between that's got to fit everybody. Somewhere you've got to think of those people who own that property. Some of those places have to be protected. Some, by nature, are going to change. Id i?e re it is a determinant by use more than by nature you've got to give that consideration to those people. When you think abouc this, although it is a park, it is a place of recreation for ehe people of Alaska or the nation within a park. When you make your deliberations you should keep this in mind. -7- KRSiNA MBETING MINUTES SEPTEMBER 12, 1985 PUBLIC COMMENTS CONTINUED B. Betty Wilkinson, Keystone Estates My husband and I have attended most of the Board meetings and have previously given public testimony. Does the Board want testimony from people who have previously testified, do you want their testimony again? Or do you want those of es who have previously testified to sit back and deep sti11 and let new comers speak? Wi11 the entire document be available to the general publ.c prier to the public hearing on the total docume ra that is prepared as the final recom- mendation'? It is important that this information be available to the public in advance so that the public can read and study to make any comments that they might have. Jefferson said that the Board is interested i.n hearing everybody's opinion on any proposals that it hears. The document wi11 be available to the public prior to the Soard's vote on it. There wi.l1 be ample cpportunity to review that prior to the Board's derision; there ~oi1i be time to comment as welt, BOARD COMMENTS: Bonney cautioned the Board about the length of time they have been working on this project. He said that he has seen evidence of cabin fever occurring and to guard themselves we11. It's easy co get frustrated and upset. 10. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 2:20 p.m. Immediately following the Board meeting Mr. Massimo of Aqua Terra Company gave a pre- sentation and slide show about bank stabilization techniques. He had been cn the river examining some sites. He is knowledgeable about a number of techniques for bank stabilization. Tite K.R.S.f1.r~. Advisory Board Guide Committee.; September 9,1935 l~10TlL1N by Bonney, seconded by Gaines: Tha± the Larnrnissianer of the Department of (natural Resources implement a moratorium an the issuance of Kenai River Guide Permits as of September ~~, 1985. The aptimum total r~iumber of Kenai River Guide Permits be established at 12~ combined motorized and narrmotorized guide permits. This optimum number should have an eventual minimum ratio of 3u~ non-motorized to 7U°°; motorized guide permits. The aptimum number end minimum ratio shauld be achieteed ±hrough natural attrition from the existing 124 motorized and 31 nan-matarized guide permits. Passed by the Guide Lamrnittee 9-9-85 / doting "yes" ~vere Dale, Banny, Gaines, and Randa; Absent were Langston, Carlisle, and Hansen. ~'~ ,. PERMTT COMMITEE MEETING AUGUST 27, 1985, 1:00 p.m. ADF&G HABITAT CONFERENCE ROOM, ANCHORAGE Members present: Carc1 Gorbics, Chris Godfrey, Tim Rumfeld, Don McKay, Sue Millington. Members absent: Floyd Heimbuch, Clyde Saltz, Sam Best. Chairperson Carol Gorbics opened the meeting at 1:00 p.m. The committee briefly reviewed the comanittee's outline for our masterplan chapter. Don McKay volunteered to author item IV-C - Identification of acceptable activities and item V-C - Sample plans. The committee then. started a review of the Upland Habitat Committee's report to the Advisory Board. The committee looked at the "Management Recommendation Examples" and listed the activities that would be allowable if the report were implemented. The listing is on attachment A. After reviewing River Mile 0 to 11.5 the committee felt that the Habitat Committee should be contacted before the Permit Committee comments on their recommendations at the Advisory Board Meeting. The committee has these specific questions for the Habitat Committee: 1. Can you give us some ways to accomplish these recommendations? 2. How do you propose the designated riparian zone be managed? 3. Specify where high value wetlands are targeted or were all wetlands to be considered? 4. Can you clarify the difference between functional integrity and integrity? The committee then made an outline of the existing permitting framework as it applies to Attachment A; this outline is Attachment B. Carol contacted Lenny Corin, they will meet this Thursday, to advise them of our concerns with their recommendations and to be sure we understand what they intended their document to present, ie., no development. The committee set up its schedule as follows: September 13, 9:00 a.m., Soldotna, Borough Building, Civil Defense Room September 24, 1:00 p. m., Anchorage, ADF&G Habitat Conference Roem October 11, 9:00 a.m., Soldotna, Borough Building, Civil Defense Room October 29, I:COp.m., Anchorage, ADFL.G Habitat Conference Room The meeting adjourned at 3:10 p.m. ~'~..; RIVER MILE 0"~ 11.5: MOUTH OF.THE KENAI RIVF `TO EAGLE ROCK I. Management Objectives A. Estuarine/Tidal Wetlands (page 6) 1. No activity in estuarine tidelands (see map) from to .I. Management Recommendation Examples A. Kenai River Mainstem (page 8) Compatible human uses and activities 2. No mooring buoys 3. No increase in sport use on the Kenai River 4. No additional commercial barge use B. EstuarineJTida1 Wetlands (page 9) - Incornpatible human uses and activities 5. No dredge or fill activities in estuarine/tidal wetlands except for habitat enhancement or certain public uses. 6. No drainage of important wetlands of value to waterfowl, waterbirds, and caribou (see map). 7. No utilization of sensitive habitat areas from to during waterfowl season except for the use and development of access route and viewing areas if necessary. 8. No powerlines shall be permitted if they pose a hazard to waterfowl movement. C. Habitat Restoration/improvement Opportunities (page 9) Interpretative Opportunities 9. A11ow habitat enhancement projects and interpretative signing D. Riparian Zone (page 9) incompatible Human Uses and Activities (page 10) 10. No activities should be allowed in riparian zones which would result in increased bank erosion 11. A11ow supervised recreational programs E. Tributary Wetlands (page 10) Compatible Human Uses and Activities 12. No ORV use between March 16 and October 31. Incompatible Human Uses and Activities 13. No dredge and fill operaticns unless consistent with objectives for this habitat or there are r,o prudent upland alternatives to meet public need. Does this mean no development? 14. No channel, diversion, drainage or obstruction of natural drainages. 15. No agricultural activity if it involves drainage or damage to wetlands important to waterfowl, waterbirds, caribou and anadromous fish. F. Habitat Restoration/Improvement Opportunities 16. Repeat ;~9. 1i. Require roads to be reculverted to restore natural drainage patterns. •/. _~ .' ATTACH~PENT "'B" Existing Permitting Framework I-A-1 Landowners II-A-2 COE, ADNR (if in KRSMA boundaries) ZI-A-3 ADNR, ADF&G II-A-4 •• II-B-S COE II-B-6 •~ II-B-7 ''°, landowners II-B-8 DNR II-C-9 ^ II-D-10 COE ZZ-D-il '~, DNR II-E-12 •• II-E-13 COE II-E-14 ADF&G II-E-15 *, DNR (if state lands) II-F-16 ^ ^ No good strong jurisdiction JOINT MEETING'of PERMIT AND UPLAND/HABITAT COMMITTEES AUGUST 16, 1985 KENAi PENINSULA BOROUGH BUILDING ASSEMBLY CHAMBERS Permit Committee members present: Floyd Heimbuch, Chris Godfrey, Sam Best, Don McKay, Tim Rumfeld, Sue Millington. Members absent: Clyde Sa1tz, Carol Gorbics. Habitat Committee members present: Leo Hannan (Chair), Lenny Corin, Linda Gintoli, Mike Novy. Members absent: Andy Johnson, Ted Spraker, Jeff Parker. Public present: Les Palmer, Janet Palmer, Al White. Chairman, Leo Hannan, opened the meeting at 7:00 p.m. and introduced new DPOR staff member, Hetty ^litchell to the committees. Hetty had been working on the mapping of the habitat areas and presented the maps to the committee. Lenny Corin distributed a brief of their recommendations that will be given to the KRS~fA CAB. The briefing paper basically condenses their management area descriptions. Chairman Hannan read the cover letter that will go with their recommendations to the Board. The letter was approved by the Habitat Committee and was given to Dave Stephens to be typed on KRSMA letterhead. -- Lenny Corin briefed the group on the complete report and, other than minor cor- rections, it is complete. The report was adopted by the Habitat Committee and will be presented to the Board at the September 12 meeting. The Habitat Committee closed their meeting and the Permit Committee addressed a few items of business. At the KRSMA September 12, meeting there will be a presentation by an expert on gabions. All members should attend and keep in mind what the Kenai River's specific needs are and if gabions will help accomplish them. Chris felt that a letter should be written to the DEC regarding the attendance of different representatives to Permit Committee meetings. The committee would benefit greatly from the consistency that a single DEC representative would give. Chris will assist in authoring this let..*_er if necessary. Committee members should review the Habitat Committee's reccmmendations and be prepared to discuss them at our next meeting. Keep in mind what specific information is needed regarding recommendations for wetlands. Dave Stephens was asked when the permit committee questionai.re would be mailed. Dave stated that it should be ready in two to three weeks. The next meeting will be at 1:00 p.m. on August 27, in Anchorage, at the ADE&G habitat conference room. s „ r3 ~~' ' 'jSpeciaiiVianagementArea ( ~' ~,~,. "Working POgether... /or the river" ,Y.. Qi~M'u~~~G>3~( ~ OO ~/~Gt3D PROPOSALS WAN'PED The Lands Committee of the Kenai. River Special Management Area Advisory Board is requesting proposals and ideas from the public. Lands Committee goals and objectives are: GOAL: TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT FISH AND WILDLIFE HABITAT VALUES OF THF. KENAI RIVER CORRIDOR BY ENSL"--RING RESPONSIBLE ANll ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND LAND-USE ACTIVITIES. Objectives: Maintain the functional integrity of ].and areas supporting crucial lifecycle stages of important fish and wildlife species. To accommodate private property interests and rights while protecting upland ar,d riparian habitat values. GOAL: TO PROTECT AND ENY.ANCE PUBLIC USE AND ENJOYMENT OF THE KENAL RIVER BY PROMOTING ATTRACTIVE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND LAND-USE ACTIVITIES THROUGH, BUT NOT LIMITED T0, ESTABLISHING A COMPREHENSIVE SET Oh LAND-USE POLICIES AND GIIIDELINF.S IN COOPERATION [v'ITH THE KENAI PENINSULA BOROUGH AND THE CITIES OF KENAI AND SOLDOTNA. Objectives: Maintain the natural. appearance and scenic qualities of certain river/lake segments. Ensure that there are adequate public lands adjacent to the special. management area for river access, fishing, camping and other publi-c purposes. Protect archaeological, cultural and historical resources in the Kenai River corridor. The Kenai River watershed is being studied without regard to land ownership at this time. The committee will. be holding public meetings later this summer and needs input from interested members of the public now. Proposals should be in writing and should satisfy some aspect of the above goals and objectives. Deadline for proposa s is August 1, 1985_. For further information call: Sharon Jean, 262-9011; Les Palmer, 262-4517; Dave Stephens, 561-2020. Mail proposals to: Kenai River Planning Alaska State Parks Box 1247 Soldotna, Alaska 99669 ~~ Kenai River Plan ning, Pouch 7007, Anchorage,AK 99590, Anchorage 276-2653 '--\ e f®'7 Kenai Area Office, box 1247, Soldotna, AK 99669, Soldotna 262-5587 'L~ Kenai Peninsula Borough, Box 850, Soldotna, AK 99669, Soldotna 2624447 o Alaska Division of Parks and Outtloor Recreation, Department of Natural Resources, in cooperailon wUh the Kenal Peninsula Borough. Permits Committee Meeting July 30, 1985 ADFG Conference room - Anchorage, Alaska Members present: Chris Godfrey, Sam Best Members Absent: Carol Gorbics, Sue Millington, Clyde Saltz, Floyd Heimbuch, bob Martin, Carl Yanagawa Public present: Don McKay, Lenny Corin Chris Godfrey chaired the meeting which began at 1:30 pm. Chris made the following announcements: 1.) Please contact Sue by 8/5 concerning the river trip to be held on 8/13 - 8/14. 2.) The next committee meetino will be at 7:D0 pm on 6/14 in Soldotna in the Civil Defense Room of the Borough Building. It will be a joint meeting with the Biol. Uplands Habitat Committee. Don addressed the questionaire. Sue will be contacting Dave Stephens to get it in the next news letter. Sam says he feels it°s too long. Lenny suggested that a response date be included. He also suggested the return address be printed on the back page with a bulk stamp. Then people could fold it over, staple it and put it in the mail. There should also be info included about drop-off boxes in various locations such as the library in Cooper Landing, the Borough Building in Soldotna, and ADFG in Anchorage. Don wanted to know if DNR would be changing the format to reduce the number of pages, maybe by using smaller print. This might encourage more people to respond. Don stated that the canmittee needs to decide on what info we need from other committees and agree on ii. Chris and Sam slated that Carol had sent written requests to•3 or 4 committees last winter requesting info. Sam said we should deal with the Biol. Uplands Habitat packet now and deal with the other requests later. Chris_ will check with Carol to insure that the requests were sent out. Lenny discussed the Biol. Uplands Habitat packet in detail. It is being updated. Lenny said the final version will be available at the joint committee meeting. Chris stated that the committee needs to review the packet and be prepared to discuss it with the 'Biol."Uplands Habitat Committee. The Permits Committee needs to decide what we need from the report. Sam stated that the management goals are the critical elements. Chris discussed the research she had done on performance bonds. Due to problems with performance bonds,~it looks like escrow accounts may be more feasible. The members present decided that the entire committee should discuss the concept at the next :meeting. They should decide whether or not to recommend i;hat the Corps adopt the requirement for all or certain Kenai River permits. Chris distributed an informational sheet for members to review. a~ e Don said that the Permits Committee should formally request a copy of the maps that the Biol. Upland Habitat Committee has prepared from Dave Stephens. Lenny said he will have the maps available for the joint cc:nmittee meeting for reference. Oon said the Permits Committee members should start looking at the master plan and decide what additional info we need to complete our chapter of the report. Ne suggested that members start writing portions of the chapter. Chris asked if there was any more business to be addressed. Being none, the meeting adjourned at 3:10 pm. ~t ~. ~~~~ tca~~~6 ~~ ~~~' the ~~~~~ iVEXT RDi/I~®RY B®AFiil N[EETING OTp-iER PiIEETINGS SCC-~~t3LIL~[7: P'LANIVIIVG CIPDA'TE: Number 8 July 2, 1985 F(RSMA Advisory Board: July 11, 1985, 10:00 a.m. Borough Building, Soldotna. Call: 283-9187,. 265-4519. Permits C~ranittee: July 11, 1984, ittn~diately following KRSMA Advisory Board Meeting,. Borough Building, Sol- dotna. Call: 753-2724, 265-4519. Biological/I3pland Haaitat C~r:ctittee: 3n1y 10, 1985, 7:.00 p.m.,: Cooper. Landing Community Center. Call:. 552-3307, 265®4519. River(Fsheries 'ttee: July 9, 1985, 5:00 p.m., Bor- ough Building, Soldotna, Call: 262-9193, 265-4519. Social/Recreation Ccet¢tu_ttee, July 8, 18, 1985, 6:O0 p.m:., Borough Building, Soldotna. Call: 561.-5115, 265-4515. Lands Committee: July 1S, 1985, 11:00 a.m., Borough Building,. Soldotnap July 18, 1985, 3:00 p.m., Borough Building, Soldotna, Call: 262-9011,. 265°4519. Guide Committee: No July meetings.. Agency Cce:~ttittee: No July meetings. Gordon Davis, a nationally recognized resource planner from Portland, Oregon, was. guest speaker at the June KRSMA Advisory Board meeting. Davis°`s journey to the Kenai. was sponsored by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service: Davis talked about his ex}~erences erorking on the Gray°s Harr and Coos Bay Social Management Area plans, both. of which used citizen advisory boards similar to the. Kenai River Advisory Board. He introduced the ideas of using °`mitigation banks°' and B°agency letters of intent°' as methods for resolving conflicts and making sure the p3:an works. Davis dis€ributed a tv-page inforn~tion flyer on °°lessons learned°° frcme s of his projects. Copies of this paper are. available frarr the Division of Parks. and Outdoor Recreation urn request.. Some highlights are as follows: - Make sure your funding is adequate to finish. - Present technical information in ways that peoplecan understand.. - Caripramse is essential to resolving conflicts. - Decide now how the plan will be used. The July meeting of the Advisory Board will be an abbreviated version. 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