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Home My WebLink About1975-08-27 P&Z Summary~~ KENAI PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 27, 1975 7:00 P.M. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE RON MALSTON, CHAIRMAN ITEM l: ROLL CALL ITEM Z: APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 13, 1975 ITEM 3: PUBLIC HEARING Request from Mr. ~, Mrs. James D. ~, Millie M. Medema for a variance to allow double wide mobile homes in Northgate Estates Subdivision. ITEM 4: OLD BUSINESS a. Regulations for the reclamation of Gravel Pits: b. Monfor/Davis~Car Wash/Camper Park Administration's report: ITEM 5: NEW a. b. c. d. e. f. BUSINESS Penney Mobile Home Sales- Request for the construction of a trailer sales office: Antwerp Subdivision Preliminary/ Final: Sharon L. Subdivision- Preliminary/ Final: Conditional Use ~exm~it Johnny Sohnsgn rotors Presentation o~ Kenai Qaxden Club letter4 Presentation of Map of Foreclosure Parcelst KENAI PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 2 7 , 19 7 5 ~ ~~~~~~~ / 7:00 P.M. CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE RON MALSTON, CHAIRMAN . ITEM l: ROLL CALL Present: Chairman Ron Malston, Beverly Fillio, Nels Kjelstad, Betty Glick, Cliff Heus, and Harry Gaines. Absent: Roland Raymond Ex-Officio Member Present: Councilman Ed Ambarian ITEM 2: ITEM 3: PUBLIC HEARING was moved up to ITEM 2: The Public Works Director gave the report from the Administration concerning the request for Variance to allow double-wide mobile homes with a minimum width of 16 feet in Northgate Estates Subdivision situated in the NW'4 Section 31 TbN R11W, S.M. City of Kenai, Alaska. Carol and Don Bailey who are now in .the .process of purchasing Northgate Sub- division represented Mr. ~ Mrs. Medema. They. stated that they also felt as Mr. F, Mrs. Medema that thcrc t~ras a need in the Kenai area for lo~~er priced homes and expressed their wish to develop this 91'z acres of land for less expensive homes. The request for Variance. letter was then read aloud by Chairman Ron Malston. H.A. Poore representing Woodland Development spoke in opposition and felt in order to get a Variance you need to demonstrate a need and didn't feel that the need was demonstrated here. Wade Lundstrom of Woodland spoke in opposition be- cause e can't see need that would warrant a Variance -and didn't feel they would improve the area. Carol Bailey spoke in favor of by clarifying that the property would be deeded land as in any other subdivision. That it would not be a trailer park and would have public water and sewer. Don Bailey =spoke in favor of stating that the homes wouldn't e cheap, around $38000.00, and are really not trailers. Beverly Fillio asked Mr. ~ Mrs. Bailey if someone wanted to build a frame house would they be allowed to do so, they said yes. Wade Lundstrom speaking in apposition asked basically w at would price be developed as they would be developed for sale. Mr. Bailey quoted 60~ a ft. up to 80~-85¢ a foot. Would be around $45,000.00 home by the time it was put up. KENAI PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING, AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE 2 ITEM 2: Public Hearin- continued ,F f Mr. Lundstrom felt it would take greater income to pure ase a trailer home than a home of greater magnitude because the loan period is shorter for trailers. Carol Baffle speaking in favor of said the alter- native to this is '"modulars" which run in the category of $30,000.00 and no Variance is needed for "modulars" . Wade Lundstrom asked how many lots are in this proposed Sufi~ivision. Mr. Bailey answered, roughly 208. Vivian. Raymond spoke in opposition and asked what t~ minimum length would be, she understood there was a minimum width. She felt the developer would be as well off putting in small homes. Don Driskell spoke in opposition of indicating that a lot owner could put in a l0 ft. wide trailer with leannto and have a 16 foot width structure on solid foundation, but still you would have lean-to and trailer anal d.idn't think this was good idea. Arlene Arisawa asked why the intent to put trailer- omes on lots that are regular building lot size if the purpose was for instant housing. Mr. Bailey said it is to allow trailer homes if they want. Wade Lundstrom asked if they would be building oun ations or just slabs. Mr. ~ Mrs. Eailey couldn't really give an answer at this point. Ron Malston stated there are homes being built in enai right now that are selling for $45,000.00- $48,000.00 and personally doesn't see the justifi- cation for the Variance. Wade Lundstrom said homes can be built on this type sub ivision pretty rapidly. H.A. Poore said if need is there, homes can be built much more rapidly than they are being built. Beverly Fillio asked Mr. ~ Mrs. Bailey if they had looked into the possibility of developing and building frame homes. Mr. Bailey said they hadn't had opportunity to really research since they just purchased subdivision. Ron Malston felt that a person with a stick home woul pro~bly object to a double-wide trailer being in the neighborhood. H.A. Poore felt Woodland property. would be downgraded i~ a development such as this was built across the street. KENAI PLANNING ~, REGULAR MEETING, PAGE 3 MOTION ZONING COMMISSION AUGUST 27, 1975 TTEM 2: Public Hearing- continued Ron Malston asked for closing of the Hearing if there were no more comments from the audiance.He then asked for wishes of the Commission. Councilman Ambarian commented that other Variances have been asked. for in the past and were turned down. He felt Woodland residents had a good argument and he personally recommended against, the issuance of the Variance. Beverly Fillio pointed out the need for some. kind of place for trailers and felt it was something the Commission should take a long look at. Ron Malston spoke in favor of there being a need for the homes and the. property could be developed for regular stick homes as well as double-wides. Nels K'elstad felt that trailers should no longer e~un er the zoning code set up for them. Felt Ordiance 269-75 was unconstitutional as you can build trailers on one side of town and not the other. Beverl Fillio asked Mr. Bryon Smith the difference etween a Motel Home and Modular. Homy:. He stated that a Mobil Home was anything moved on wheels ar~d a Modular Home was a pre-fab home which is moved on wheels then put on foundation. A Modular Home is made of wood and a Mobil Home is usually made of mostly metal material. A Modular Home could increase in value if taken care~of and on a foundation. A double-wide would cost from X25,000.00 - $42,:000.00. Chairman Malston asked for wishes of the Commission. Councilman Ed Ambarian commented that Commission ad already turned down one other party and didn't feel Bailey's request should be accepted. Beverly Fillio moved to grant Variance as requested on Northgate Estate Subdivision, Kenai. Motion was seconded by Cliff Heus. Motion: f~:iled' by Roll Call Vote:. Voting yes: None Voting No: Beverly Fillio Betty Glick Cliff Heus Harry Gaines Ron Malston Abstained: Nels Kjelstad KENAI PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION REGUALR MEETING, AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE 4 ITEM 3: APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF AUGUST 13, 1975 Minutes of August 13, 1975: The following corrections were made to the minutes: -Page 2- Item 4: (b) the following paragraph was left out- "'The Commission stated they would like to look at lands in the Foreclosure List with the idea of utilizing area for parks and recreation and other City purposes. Page 3- Item 3: (c) second line- word left out- Boroug~i belongs between "the" and "date". Third line- "to be" should be blocked out. Fourth line- Is Beverly Fillio instead of Nels Kjelstad and '°Kenai" should be entered in front of "Planning" Sixth line- "The Commission" should be crossed. out and "she" put in its place. Lines 8 ~ 9- the sentence "Nels Kjelstad asked Mr. Ambarian to bring this up to the Council" should be eliminated. Eleventh line- the word "should" should be entered between Commission and~.check. Fifteenth lire- the word "Ke:aai" should be entered before Planning. Twenty-sixth line- the word "continued" should be "contained". Page 4 - item 4: (d) fifth line- should read - was acceptab~.e as submitted. Page 4 - Item 4: (e) fourth line -should read- '°there are no roads to property although an ease- ment exsists. Page 6 - Item (a) of Item 3: ninth line- The word "Lots" should read "spaces"- Page 6 - Item (h) of New Business ninth line should read - Attorney. No action taken. The August lath minutes were approved as corrected. Chairman Malston asked to move to Item 5: New Business: ITEM 4: NEW BUSYNESS: MOVED IN PLACE OF - OLD BUSNINESS (a) Penney Mobile Home Sales- Request for the construction of a trailer sales office: Phil Aber spoke briefly on the construction. of an office for Mobil Home Sales, stating Mobil Homes are really not allowed in this area for office purposes. Mr. Bryon Smith of Penney Mobil Homes made a pre- sentation. of his plan to Kenai Planning $ Zoning Commission. What he wanted to know was if he can use a Mobil Home or put up a pre-fab for a office. He stated there would be no sewer or water hook-up, KENAI PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE S Item 4: New Business- continued would just have use of electricity. Phil Aber spoke in favor of Mr. Smith's proposal. .Councilman Ed Ambarian spoke in opposition because of how it was stated in Ordinance. Howard Hackney stated when Ordinance was drawn up this was never discussed as to the use- of trailers for office purposes. Ron Malston spoke in favor because he felt that a mobile home moved in on the lot would be better than what has been on it. Beverly Fillio asked Mr. Smith how long a period of time would he be renting and when did he anticipate moving. Mr. Smith answered 12 year he would be on this lot. Mrs. Fillio felt Mr. Smith was doing every- thing in a nice orderly way but didn't feel Commission should set a precedent when Ordinance says no. Nels Kjelstad stated permission cannot be - gran~ed without a request for Variance and this calls for a Public Hearing. The Kenai Planning ~, Zoning Commission decided all they could do was advise him or set up a Public Hearing which. was explained to him. Chairman Malston said he personally would like to see Penney Mbbil Homes ask for a Public Hearing. Phil Aber told Mr. Smith he would have to have a written re- quest from him before setting up a Public Hearing date. Nels Kjelstad informed Mr. Smith that he had (3) alternatives: (1) He ask for a Variance, in this case we would have to have a Public Hearing. (2) He could build permanent structure. (3). He can apply to City for a Building Permit for a temporary structure. There. was no Motion made on the issue. KENAI PLANNING ~, ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE 6 MOTION Item 4: New Business- continued .{b) Antwerp Subdivision- Preliminary/Final:. Beverly Fillip made comment there was not time for Commission to act on the issue. Example: Plat was sent August 18th by the Borough requesting approval by August .25th. Kenai Planning ~ Zoning Commission meeting was held August 27th. Beverly Fillip said-she would bring this up to the Borough. .Chairman Malston asked for the Administration recommendations. Phil Aber stated none of the easements or set backs are shown on Plat. Chairman Malston asked the wishes of the Commission. Nels Kjelstad moved for approval of Antwerp Subdivision subject to the following: (1) 25 ft. set back be shown. (2) That lots appear to be too small for on site water supply ~ sewage disposal. Motion was seconded by Beverly Fillip Motion passed unanimously. MOTION (c) Sharon L. Subdivision- Preliminary/Final: Chairman Malston asked for recommendations of Administration. Phil Aber stated there was one change and this is the removal of cul de sac at the East end of C Street, North East. Beverly Fillip moved far approval of the final plat of the Sharon L. Subdivision. Motion was seconded by Betty Glick Motion passed unanimously (d) Conditional Use Permit- Johnny Johnson Motors: Phil Aber stated he was asked to get the feeling of the Kenai Planning ~ Zoning Commission for a Conditional Use Permit to rent entire Building presently occupied by Fine Arts. He stated it is City-owned land and is zoned Urban Residential. Chairman Malston asked with approval of Commission that Mrs. Meeks be allowed to speak on the deed turning the property over to the Library. Councilman Ed Ambarian stated he hated to see the Kenai Planning ~ Zoning Commission get involved. Nels Kjelstad felt the City Attorney would have to research the ownership of the property. before further action can be taken. KENAI PLANNING F, ZONING COMMTSSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE 7 Item 4: New Business - continued MOTION Nels Kjelstad Moved that Commission consider a Public Hearing date of September 24th for this mattex and that for the .next meeting of September 10th the Commission have a report from City Administration and City Attorney containing pertinent information they have to date. Motion seconded by Harry Gaines. Motion passed unanimously. (e) Judy Peterson presented a letter from the Kenai City Garden Club which was read to the audience by Chairman Ron Malston. A copy of the letter for Commission was asked for. (f)~ Phil Aber presented a map on Foreclosure parcels which show parcels now owned by the City. .Was asked of the Commission if there is anything they would like to do with the parcels. Chairman Malston asked for wishes of the Commission. MOTION Cliff Heus moved that the City retain 6 lots behind the Chevron Station to be considered for Fire Department Station. Lot descriptions are as follows: Lot 9, Blk. 13- C. F. Ahlstrom Subdivision Kenai Recording District- Tax Parcell #039-081- . 1500) Price- $34.12 Lot 10, Blk. 13- C.F. Ahlstrom Subdivision Kenai Recording District(Tax Parcel # 039- 081-1300) Price - $51.35 Lot 11, Blk. 13- C.F. Ahlstrom Subdivision Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #039- 081-1100) Price - $34.21 Lot 26, Blk. 13, C.F. Ahlstrom Subdivision Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #039- 081-1200) Price - $250.89 Lot 27, Blk. 13- C. F. Ahlstrom Subdivision Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #039- 081-1400) Price - $156.07 Lot 28, Blk. 13- C. F. Ahlstrom Subdivision Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #039- 031-1600) $156.07 Price. ( These 6 lots belong to Penny English who has requested to repurchase) KENAT PLANNING ~ ZONTNG COMMI~ION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE 8 Item 4: New Business- continued That other (2) parcels be returned to private ownership as recommended by Administration. Lot discriptions are as follows: Lot 3, BIk. 5- Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording district (Tax Parcel #047-071-0500) Price- $283,81 ( Request for repurchase) Lot 126, Sec. 31, T6N, R11W, S.M., Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #043-.170-0600)_ Price $791.74 The Motion was seconded by Nels Kjelstad. Motion passed by Roll Call Vote: Voting Yes: Beverly Fillio Nels Kjelstad Betty Glick Cliff Heins Voting No: Harry Gaines Ron Malston ? MOTION Cliff Heus moved that the City aquire ownership of lot on Beaver Loop for possible 'Fire Dept , Sub- station. Lot Description is as follows: Lot 3, Blk. H - Beaver Creek Alaska Sub. Kenai. Recording District (Tax.Parcel. #041-080-0300) Price- $104.92 Beverly Fillio seconded the Motion. Motion passed unanimously by .Roll Call Vote. Phil Aber recommended lots following: Lot 6, Blk. 9, Org. Twn. - Kenai- Kenai Recording District (TAX Parcel #047-081-0600) Price $14.93 Lot 8, Blk. 9- Org. Tw n. Kenai- Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #047-081-0800) Price $30.05 Lot 10, Blk. 9, Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording ' District (Tax Parcel #047-081-1000) Price $13.70 Lot 11, Blk. 9, Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #047-081-1100) Price $46.18 KENAI PLANNING ~ ZONING COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING AUGUST 27, 1975 PAGE 9 I"t em 4: New Business - continued Lots 2, 3, 4 ~ 5, Blk. 10 Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #047-082-0200) Price $90.12 Lots 1 ~ 2, Blk. 11 Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording District. (Tax Parcel #047-083-0100) $63.76 Lot 6, Blk. 12 Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #047-084-0600) Price $41.48 Lots 1 $ 2 Blk. 13 Exc St. Org. Twn. Kenai- Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #047- 085 0300) Price $ 63.24 . Lot 3, Blk. 13- Org. Twn.. Kenai- Kenai Recording District (Tax Parcel #047-085-0400) Price $56.39 1~~OTION Beverly Fillio moved to recommend to the Council that other available lands be considered for future development of parks. Nels Kjelstad seconded the Motion. Motion passed unanimously. ITEM 5: OLD BUSINESS- WHICH WAS MOVED TO END OF AGENDA (a) Regulations far. the reclamation of Gravel Pits: Chairman Malston asked if Commission wished to have a work session to make a final draft to be held next Tuesday September 2, 1975 at 7:00 P. M. at the. City Manager's Office. Approved. (b) Monfor/Davis-Car Wash/Camper Park Administration's report: Still pending on decision of City Council on first application for lease by Costas Macheros. ITEM 6: ADJOURN There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 11:15 p.m. ~, , Kaki been Clar Secretary