HomeMy WebLinkAbout1978-11-08 P&Z Minutesxenai Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting November 8, 1978
Kenai Public Safety Building 7:00 p.m.
Roland Raymond, Presiding Chairman
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1. ROLL CALL
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Bush Lanes Subdivision, Lot 1-6, Block 1
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF October 25, 1978
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Kenai Recreation Commission Meeting Letter and Petition
of October 11, 1978
B. Reserving Foreclosed Lands for Public Use
6. NEW BUSINESS
A. Street Dedication through City Land: Lee Glad
B. Woodland Subdivision Part IV: Final
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C. Concept Lease Application, Government Lot 8, Section 4:
Kenai Native Association, Inc.
D. Sgt. Bob Trader, National Guard Armory - Request for a
Training Area
E. Concept Lease Application, Well Reserve Site I:
Gentry Enterprises, Ltd.
F. Discussion of the Proposed Requirements for Landscaping
7. OTHER BUSINESS.
A. City Council Report: Betty Glick
B. Borough Planning and Zoning Commission Report: Betty Glick
C. Administrative Report
8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
9. ADJOURNMENT
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REGULAR MEETING November 8, 1978
Kenai Public Safety Building 7:00 p.m.
Roland Raymond, Presiding Chairman
1. ROLL CALL
Present: Sol Raymond, Karen Mahurin, Cliff Heus, John Monfor,
Dwain Gibson, Phil Bryson, and Ex-Officio Member
Betty Glick
Absent: Nick Miller
Others: Jeff Ottesen, Borough Planner; Jim Hendrickson, new
Borough Planner; Bill Nelson, City Engineer; Lee Glad;
Roland Lynn; Carmen Gintoli, Ken Leader, Joe Flood,
and Debbie Ross, all representing Gentry Enterprises;
Sgt. Bob Trader and Johnny Jackson, representing the
National Guard.
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Bush Lanes Subdivision, Lot l-6. Block 1
Sol Raymond opened the public hearing on Bush Lanes Subdivision,
Lot 1-6, Block 1 petition to rezone from Suburban Residential
to General Commercial.
There was no one present from the public for comments. As
~ the Commission received no response from the public, the
item was brought back to the table for discussion.
Phil Bryson questioned the depth of the right of wars and the
size of the lots being so small.
John Monfor stated that he has no objection to the change in
zoning to General Commercial because of the nature of the area.
Jeff Ottesen showed the area on a large zoning map. He pointed
out the small lot sizes and the number of driveways onto the
Spur Highway and the fact there a~•e multiple owners.
Mr. Raymond .questioned whether the State will control the access.
Mr. Ottesen stated that yes the state will control the access and
possibly have joining driveways.
MOTION:
Cliff Heus moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to approve the
rezoning of Lot 1-6, Block 1, of Bush Lanes Subdivision to
General Commercial.
There was discussion on the rezoning. It was noted that the
land would not be good for residential as it is on the highway
and in an area of Commercial development.
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Mr. Bryson stated that it conforms with this type of zoning.
He questions the access onto the highway and lot size.
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2A. Cont.,
Mr. Raymond stated that before any action would be taken on
this he would again open the meeting to the public as more
people have come in. There was no response from the public.
The public hearing was closed.
The motion passed unanimously to approve the rezoning.
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION:
Cliff Heus moved, seconded by Phil Bryson, to approve the
agenda for the November 8, 1978 meeting.
The motion passed with no objections.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF October 25, 1978
John Monfor questioned the order of the discussion and the
passing of the motion to approve Ordinance 78-54 as written
on pages 2 and 3. The secretary is to check the tape for
the correct order.
MOTION:
Phil Bryson moved, seconded by Karen Mahurin, to approve
~ the minutes of October 25, 1978.
The motion passed with no objections.
5. OLD BUSINESS
A, Kenai Recreation Commission Meeting Letter and Petition
of October 11, 1978
B. Reserving Foreclosed Lands for Public Use
There was a discussion of the letter and petition received
from the Kenai Recreation Commission. Mr. Raymond stated
that action should be taken on their letter.
MOTION:
Dwain Gibson moved, seconded by John Monfor, to accept this
petition dated October 11, 1978 from the Kenai Recreation
Commission per their request and recommend to the Council
that they approve the petition.
Discussion followed concerning where the lots are located.
'£here were questions whether the City will establish parks
because of lack of houses in the area.
It was noted that Lots 41 and 42 are in an area in which there
are houses. Mr. Bryson noted that Bush Lanes Subdivision is
approximately 85 percent developed and there is a need in
the area for parks.
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Mr. Heus stated that the City should provide access to the
area.
Mr. Raymond stated that there is a need to set aside lands
for park areas and the opportunity to get the lands is now;
the Commission needs to think of the future.
The memo on Foreclosed Lands from John Wise, City Manager
dated October 31, 1978 was discussed and also whether the
land is for. immediate use.
Mr. Heus stated that if there is no public need for the land
then it must be returned to private ownership. He does not
believe that the City knows what to do with more park land.
If the City can prove that it will use the land in the
future, then it would be alright to set it aside; but
otherwise, the land should not be tied up if there is no
use for it.
Mr. Bryson stated that the City needs the land.
Mr. Gibson agreed that the land should be set aside if there
is a future use for it and if there are no other parks in
the area of the land.
Mr. Heus stated that the Planning and Zoning Commission could
go along with setting aside these lands if the Recreation
Commission would follow up on it and show future development
plans for the land. A letter should be sent to the Recreation
Commission stating that if the Planning and Zoning Commission
concurs that the Recreation Commission will develop the land.
Bill Nelson stated that he agrees with Mr. Heus and the
general plan of the Recreation Commission is to establish a
pattern for Parks in the City. They see this as an opportunity
to set aside land for future use. A stipulation should be
made that the Recreation Commission consider the land one
way or another.
There was more discussion as to the parcel locations and
that a plan be set up for the land, not to just hold it
without a reason.
Jeff Ottesen, Borough Planner, stated that the Recreation
Commission has just started and is in the planning stage.
He suggested waiting until the Comprehensive Plan is finished
and this will help in locating where the parks should go.
The City should hold the land until then. There is alot
of growth in the Black Gold Estate area, and there is a need
for more recreation facilities.
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AMENDMENT:
_ Cliff Heus moved, seconded by Phil Bryson, to amend the
motion and that the Planning and Zoning Commission assign
the Recreation Commission top priority to develop a plan
fox utilization of these lands.
There was further discussion on the lots in question.
The motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Raymond read the letter from Fire Chief Winston.
There was discussion of land to reserve for future fire
station sites; namely, Lots 9, 10, 11 of Block 11
Ahlstrom Subdivision.
MOTION:
Phil Bryson moved, seconded by Karen Mahurin, to recommend
reserving Lots 9, 10, and 11, Block 11 of Ahlstrom
Subdivision for future use as fire substations.
The motion passed unanimously.
There was discussion of Item 12, beach property.
MOTION:
Cliff Heus moved, seconded by Phil Bryson, to recommend
~ reserving Lot 2, Block 12 for public use as beach property.
The motion passed unanimously.
The remaining five items were recommended to be disposed of.
6. NEW BUSINESS
A._ Street Dedication through City Land: Lee Glad
Mr. Glad presented his plans to the Commission concerning
a request to put a road through City property. He plans
on dedicating the road to the City and putting in water
and sewer. The plan would be to move the existing road
over onto Lot 155 and then leave a screening strip of land
beside Spruce Street.
Phil Bryson requested a topographic map showing the top of the
slope on the land.
John Monfor questioned the deep cut into the slope as the
old access road to the property.
Mr. Glad stated that he would be putting in a City street
at his .own expense on City property and he needs a consensus
to go ahead with the bid for the road.
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Jeff Ottesen suggested that a topographical map is needed to
show actual alignment.
Phil Bryson stated that any location of the right of way
depends on the City and what it plans to do with their
property. ,
Mr. Glad stated that a free water and sewer permit had been
granted the owner of the land in exchange for almost two
acres of land.
Mr. Gibson stated that access should be allowed to Lots 153
and 154 and if the roadway was moved, it might be an asset
to the City.
Mr. Bryson suggested that the City Administration should go
out and look at the land and make suggestions as to what
the City is going to do with the adjoining park land.
Mr. Raymond suggested that both the City Administration and
the City Engineer go down to the property and look at the
land and the topographical maps.
Bill Nelson suggested that more information was needed as it
is difficult to make a decision on the land without it.
Mr. Heus stated that the City is going to provide access to
the Glad property and the City needs to look at it and find
out where they want the road. It should be where it would
satisfy both_the City and Mr. Glad.
Betty Glick suggested that this be presented to City Council
next week and the Council will need the Planning and Zoning
recommendations.
Cliff Heus suggested that pending approval of the development
plan that the City agree to access somewhere in Lot 155.
The City Engineer should come up with some suggestions and
then have Mr. Glad do the survey.
MOTION:
Cliff Heus moved, seconded by Karen Mahurin, to recommend
that the City Council take immediate action on planning a
dedicated access to the Glad property and take into account
the future development of Lots 153 and 154.
The motion passed with Phil Bryson abstaining.
B. Woodland Subdivision Part IV: Final
There was discussion of the Subdivision plat and where it is
located.
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MOTION:
Phil Bryson moved, seconded by John Monfor, to adopt Resolution
PZ 78-47 approving Woodland Subdivision Part IV: Final upon
the following conditions: Corrections of negative findings
of Items 6 and 9.
6. Set back should be indicated as 25 feet.
9. Utility easements, if required, are not shown.
There was discussion on the lots which are now zoned Rural
Residential and should be rezoned to Surburban Residential.
They are supplied by City water and sewer.
Jeff Ottesen stated that as they are provided by Community
water and sewer, they should apply to be rezoned.
AMENDMENT:
Phil Bryson moved, seconded by John Monfor, to amend the motion
to request that the Kenai Peninsula Borough change .the
zoning from Rural Residential to Suburban Residential to make
it .conform to the development criteria.
The motion with the amendment passed unanimously.
~ C. Concept Lease Application, Government Lot 8, Section 4,
Kenai Native Association, Inc.
Roland Lynn presented the request for a fish processing plant
between Salamatoff Seafoods and the Fort of Kenai and that the
dock be extended out into the tide lands area. One half of
the dock would be beyond into the City tidelands to accomodate
the pilings and construction of the dock.
Mr. Bryson asked for a plat of the land and Mr. Lynn said that
he did not bring it to the meeting.
Mr. Lynn stated that they would be meeting the requirements of
the Corps of Engineers.
MOTION:
Cliff Heus moved, seconded by Phil Bryson, to approve the
concept lease application on Government Lot 8, Section 4:
Kenai Native Association, Inc.
There was further discussion and question as to whether the
City Harbor Commission would be getting back together and
concentrate on the developments in this area. There was
discussion on rights to use the tidelands. The City holds the
title to the tidelands, but does it have the right to lease
these lands.
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Betty Glick stated that there is a need to develop a tide
lands lease ordinance as many leases are expiring. The
City Attorney is supposed to be working on this. There is
a need to come up with specifications.
The motion passed with John Monfor abstaining.
D. Sgt. Bob Trader, National Guard Armory - Request for a
Training Area
Sgt. Bob Trader stated that there is a need for training area
for the six tracks which are based in this area. He was
concerned with the recent ordinance which restricts use of
the beach. There is also need for land other than the beach
for manuvers.
Lt. Johnny Jackson questioned access to the City beach and
further stated the need for land for use for manuvers.
Betty Glick stated that an established route would have to
be decided upon and they would need a copy of the ordinance.
She further stated that they should talk to John Wise, City
Manager about acquiring more land for manuvers. The main
concern is against running up and down the bluff.
Lt. Jackson stated that training on the beach is not realistic.
Their mission is to provide protection for the airport. Does
the City have any land that can be made available for training
purposes.
Mr. Raymond stated that the City does have title to some lands
but does not know what would be suitable.
Mr. Jackson stated that the State has done a study and it
said that the Kenai, Soldotna area could support a National
Guard. Homer has already granted land for use in training
and if Kenai did not come up with some available land it
would consider moving the Armor,yto Homer.
Jeff Ottesen stated that as a citizen and a former National
Guard member, he would support their request for land. He
further stated that their training period is nine months out
of the year when most of the ground is frozen and would
eliminate damage to the ground surface.
Dwain Gibson suggested that the Commander submit a letter to
the City Council outlining what items need to be brought to the
attention of the City and the problems they are having. .Then
the Council could ask the Planning and Zoning for
recommendations.
Roland Lynn stated that a precedent was set three or four
years ago with the City granting egress and access on .FAA
and school lands over to Beaver Creek.
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6D. Cont.
~ The Commission suggested that the City Council make its
recommendations and be brought before the Council on the
15th.
E. Concept .Lease Application, Well Reserve Site I:
Gentry Enterprises, Ltd.
Mr. Raymond read the memo from Ernie Schlereth, City Attorney,
dated November 8, 1978. It explained the oversite concerning
Gentry's lease application. It had been received in Mr. Wise's
office in September and the application was not .opened or
noticed as it was attached to a mailing tube. At the
October 25, 1978 meeting, the same parcel of land was
approved for a car ,wash submitted by Clifford Dent.
Carmen Gintoli, the architect for Gentry, presented the plans
for a Taco Restaurant on the same parcel and asked that the
Commission reconsider their decision. He brought in a model
of the building and stated that it will be their intent to
landscape along the roads, provide adequate parking, and a
drive through window. It is their plan to construct the exterior
out of wood. They plan to draw their management staff and
employees from the Kenai area. It will bring added revenue to
the City as their gross sales are estimated at $350,000 a year.
It could possibly handle as much as $800,000 to $900,000.
Mr. Raymond questioned whether this was the only parcel that they
were interested in. The period of time it took to act upon
Mr. Dent's application was questioned. His application was
submitted on August 30 and finally-acted upon on October 25, 1978.
The secretary noted that there were two Planning and Zoning
meetings during that time at which there were no quorums.
Ken Leader, also representing Gentry, stated that he was not
opposed to going into a lot area with the car wash.
Mr. Bryson stated that the c{uestion at the moment is not one
of desirability- but the responsibility of what to do
because of the previous approval of the land's use.
Mr. Gintoli suggested that the Car Wash and Gentry share the
frontage and work out some solution.
The Commission suggested that Gentry meet with the City Manager
and Mr. Dent and come up with some solution, plans for the
use of the land and then return to the Commission.
No further action was taken at this time.
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6. F. Discussion of the Proposed Requirements for Landscaping
~~ Thiere is a need to develop some requirements for landscaping.
Bill Nelson suggested that this would help in justifying
decisions for lease applications and conditional use permits.
Jeff Ottesen stated that the City, as the owner, has the rights
to place whatever requirements. The City could set an example.
There is a higher value placed on landscaped property. The
City might consider cutting the lease rates on landscaped
property.
Mr. Gib-son noted that if landscaped, the appraisal goes up.
Mr. Ottesen stated that-the lower lease rate would compensate.
Mr. Raymond stated that there is a need for a more complete
package being submitted to the Commission for approval. He
suggested that this item be brought back as old business at
the next meeting and asked that the members bring back
suggestions.
Jim Hendrickson, new Borough P1annEr, suggested a site plan
review where the applicant submits a proposal showing parking
surfaces, access, value facings, etc. Changes could be made
to protect other adjacent lands, competition could be set up
~ on a piece of land, or predetermine what will go on .the land.
Jeff Ottesen reminded the Commission that there will be a joint
meeting of the Planning and Zoning Commission and the City
Council to hear the three top consultants concerning the
Comprehensive Plan.
7. OTHB:R BUSINESS
A. City Council Report: Betty Glick
Betty Glick gave the report on the last City Council meeting.
The. meeting. concerned paying bills; approved ordinance reserving
funds for the Sewer Treatment Plant improvements; presentation
from Union Oil regarding drilling off Cannery Road; introducing
a new ordinance declaring buildings and equipment surplus;
and transfer of funds.
B. Borough Planning and Zoning Commission Report: Betty Glick
.Reminded the Commission members that the meeting concerning
the Comprehensive Plan is on November 15, 1978 at 6:00; also,
pointed out the memo concerning the meeting on December 2 with
Planning and Zoning Commission members and the City Manager
to develop patterns enforcing zoning codes. Mr. Jim
Hendrickson was introduced to the Commission as the new Borough
Planner and would be representing the Borough instead of
Jeff Ottesen.
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The Commission thanked Jeff Ottesen for the fine job and
,~ his help in the past.
C. Administrative Report
The Commission discussed the memo from ..John Wise concerning
the length of time that a lease application should have
after the Commission made recommendations to follow through
on them.
The Commission suggested that forms need to be drawn up for
presentation to the Commission and what lease applications
should contain. Forms need to be drawn up for variances
and conditional use permits as they anticipate more conditional
use permits in the future.
It was suggested that the Administration work on getting
these forms together and the Commission will discuss this
further at the December 2 meeting.
8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
9, ADJOURNMENT
MOTION:
] John Monfor moved, seconded by Cliff Heus, to adjourn the
meeting.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
at 10:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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J~.nice E. Taylor
Secretary to the Commission