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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-12-12 P&Z MinutesKenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December 17, 1979 Kenai Public Safety Building, 7 p.m. Philip Bryson, Presiding Chairman AGENDA 1. ROLL CALL 2. PUBLIC HE ARINGS 3. AGENDA AP PROVAL 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF November 14, 1979 5. OLD BUSIN ESS A. Lease Application: Fidalgo Subdivision, Lot 7, 'B lock 4: Gentry Enterprises B. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 1, 2, 3 John an d Kristine St oehner C. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 4, 5, 6 Yeasels D. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 7 ~ 8 Kenai P ackers E. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 9, 10, 11 Dragnet 6. PvF.W BUSINESS A. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Tract B Dollar Rent A Car B. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1,Lots 7,8,9,10,11 International Steel Erectors C. Discussion: New City Ha11 - Carmen Gintoli D. Discussion: Street Numbering System - Glacier State and Stan McLane E. Discussion: Requiring survey work to be done before issuing building permits 7. OTHER BUSINESS A. C_ty Council Report: B. Borough Planning and C. City Administration D. Borough Report: Jim 8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND 9. ADJOURNMENT Betty Glick Zoning Report: Betty Glick Report Hendricks COMMENTS Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Kenai Public Safety Building, 7 p.m. Philip Bryson, Presiding Chairman 1. ROLL CALL a~ic ~eva~w Present: Phil Bryson, Sol Raymond, Jerry Andrews, David Curtis, Jim Blanning, Dwain Gibson, and Ex-Officio Member Betty Glick Absent: Karen Mahurin Others: Ray Measles, Ron Malston, Ed Ambarian, City Councilmen; Carmen Gintoli, Architect; Paul Turner; Ken Leader, Gentry Enterprises; John Stoehner, Arctic Fuel; Ed Rogers, Alaska Industrial Air; Tom Waterer, Salamatoff; Ted. Carson, Kenai Packers; Jay Cherrier, Dragnet; Ranger Nelson; Cook Inlet Processing; Bob Hicks, Columbia Wards; Peggy Norton, Dollar Rent A Car; Ed Brown, International Steel Erectors; Bill Thompson, Pat Hampton, and Al Olsen, Glacier State Telephone; Stan McLane, Surveyor; Keith Kornelis, Public Works Director; Bill Nelson, City Engineer; Jim Swalley, Airport Operations Manager 2. PUBLIC HEARINGS It was suggested that Item C under New Business be put under public hearings as it had been advertised as such. There were no objections. Carmen Gintoli, Architect, for the proposed new City Ha11 building explained that selection of the site for the building had been done some time ago and the land between the Public Safety Building and the Library had been chosen. He pointed out the drawings of the building and floor sections and stated that the building was placed at an angle to take advantage of the sun and solar radiation. He pointed out the parking layout; and stated that the building was designed for future expansion.. To take advantage of certain funding, the Kenai Health Center would also be included in the building. Phil Bryson opened the meeting to the public for comments.. and/or questions. There were no comments from the public at this time. Jim Blanning questioned the term passive solar system. Mr. Gintoli explained that if used in the building,the system would make use of the sun's heat to warm the building without working parts etc. Paul Turner stated that he felt that the plans for the Public Health Center are very much needed for the area. He is in favor of the Health Center as a part of the City Hall. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December I2, 1979 Page 2 _~ Jerry Andrews questioned the cost per square foot for the building. Carmen Gintoli stated that the cost could be as much as $100 per square foot but he thought that it would not turn out to be that much and gave the example of the new Soldotna school which included many expensive items such as swimming pool and gym and it came out to approximately $83 per square foot. He feels that structurally the building is a low-cost one. Dwain Gibson questioned the cost of installing and maintaining an elevator. Pdr. Gintoli stated that it could cost $38,000 for an elevator but if they were to install a ramp then you would be consuming needegspace in the building or have to cover it if it was constructed on the outside. Phil Bryson questioned access for the Health Center as it was in the lower level. Mr. Gintoli stated that this would pose no problem as the elevator would take care of that. Mr. Bryson also questioned a 30o deviation from facing south and the advantage of facing the south. Mr. Gintoli stated that there is a penalty for moving each degree away from the sun in terms of heat absorbtion through the windows. Sol Raymond questioned the problem that the Courthouse has had with too much heat in the summer. Mr. Gintoli stated that the building will have operable windows. Phil Bryson stated that they have also had difficulty with water in the basement. Mr. Gintoli said that even at the peak of all the rain this fall the water table was at 8 feet and the most the building will be underground will be 4 feet. There were no other comments on this item. 3. AGENDA APPROVAL MOTION: Sol Raymond moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to approve the agenda. There were no objections. 4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF November 14, 1979. MOTION: Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Sol Raymond, to approve the minutes of the November 14, 1979 meeting as submitted. There were no objections. 5. OLD BUSINESS A. Lease Application: Fidalgo Subdivision, Lot 7, Block 4: Gentry Enterprises Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission -,} Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Page 3 MOTION: Dwain Gibson moved, seconded by Jerry Andrews, to bring this item back from the table. The motion passed unanimously. Ken Leader was present representing Gentry Enterprises. He briefly outlined the history of their lease applications and stated that his company originally wanted to lease Lot 7 but Bidarka Street is not in and he would like to start building during the next construction season. He is reluctant to begin construction until the street is actually in. After the discus~on at an earlier meeting, he considered leasing Lot 5 since Caviar Street is in and water and sewer is close by. They do not want to lease the entire lot as it is because the lot is too large but would rather divide it into two and take the lot fronting the Spur Highway. He further stated that Lot 7 is the preferred site and they would be willing to wait. for this lot if they could have road access at least by the next building season after this one. Betty Glick stated that the Planning Commission could recommend that the Council look into the possibility of ~ developing this road and the Council could refer it to the Public Works Committee for review. Phil Bryson suggested that it might be a major project to provide that area with sewer and water to tie into Spur or Beaver Loop. Mr. Leader stated that if the City would move ahead to try to get the area. developed then they would be willing to sacrifice a building season. MOTION: Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Sol Raymond ~°recommend that the Kenai City Council initiate such capital improvement development required to allow the applicant, Gentry Enterprises, to use Lot 7, Block 4, of Fidalgo Subdivision. The motion passed unanimously. B. Lease Application: F. B. 0. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 1,2,3 John and Kristine Stoehner MOTION: Sol Raymond moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to bring this item off the table. The motion passed unanimously. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Page 4 John Stoehner representing Arctic Fuel stated that he has come before the commission to clarify .some questions which were asked at previous meetings. He submitted a development plan to the Commission for their review and plans to go in and clear Lots 1, 2, and 3 and then stabilize the ground. Lot 1 will be used to tie down large aircraft. The center lot will have two fuel tanks with 20,000 gal, capacity to service large aircraft. Step 3 includes a building in the future. Phil Bryson questioned whether the lots would be used all 12 months. Mr. Stoehner said that they would be. Jerry Andrews stated that there have been alot of fish processors applying for lots and questioned whether this was the reason for his application. Mr. Stoehner stated that he was not affiliated with any fish processors but wants to help eliminate the congestion on the airport and will offer off ramp tie downs and fuel facilities.. Jerry Andrews questioned the cost of the building. John Stoehner stated that he did not know at this- time. He stated that he will not be putting in a seafood processing plant. All overburden will be disposed of off the site. Bill Nelson questioned whether all seafood processors could use the area or will it be franchised out.It--wili"~e for all aviation as a public facility. Phil Bryson stated that normal construction is for 2 years on a lease and the application states 4 years. John Stoehner stated that it might be possible to build the building in a shorter time if the need arises. Ed Rogers of Alaska Industrial Air questioned their policy- if the planes could off load while fueling. They have high speed pumps and planes can unload and fuel at the same time. It is hoped that the plans will not tie up the pumps for more than 45 minutes at a time. The price of the fuel vaill absorb the cost of the service. They also hope to offer services throughout the airport and are waiting for a mobile fuel truck to arrive shortly which has 4,000 gal. capacity. There was further discussion concerning whether Mr. Stoehner was aware that the access would be limited to the lots and if he wished to use the apron then the lease would have to be adjusted accordingly. MOTION: Sol Raymond moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to approve the lease application for F.B.O. Subdivision, Lots 1,2,3 by John and Kristine Stoehner for aircraft tiedown and fuel service and include a development plan .and plot plan so Council will know the time frame and what they will develop. The motion passed unanimously. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Page 5 Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 B. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots x,5,6 Yeasels This application was tentatively approved at a previous meeting. As the lease has to be drawn up before January 19, Tom Waterer was present to again present to the Commission their plans for the lots in question. Mr. Waterer reviewed the status of the application and explained about the business and revenue their company made last season. They have their own aircraft which need to be based here plus a building to house parts. The amount of space needed for their aircraft was discussed. It was questioned whether they would be flying the aircraft year-round. They will be flying May through October. Jim Swalley reminded Mr. Waterer that if he plans to use the ramp space in front of the lots, then the lease price would reflect this. Mr. Waterer stated that there is the possibility that another fish processor would sublease. The Commission discussed time schedules on leases and also '; the term fixed base operator. C. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 7 and 8 Kenai Packers MOTION: Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Jim Blanning, to bring this item off the table. The motion passed unanimously. Ted Carson, attorney representing Kenai Packers, was present and explained to the Commission their plans to develop Lots 7 ~ 8. Their concept would be to develop the lots to handle fish products with the possibility of future development of other services o~ the property. Development is projected for this year or the following year. He further questioned whether the ramp would be completed this year. Jim Swalley stated that he was grant application for the ramp on December 14 but recently he cannot be given. Phil Bryson questioned whether have withdrawn their lease app plan. to have known whether the extension is to be accepted had been told that a date any of the applicants for Lots 7-11 lications based on the contingency Jim Swalley stated that at this time no one has withdrawn. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Page 6 The Administration recommends to the Commission that they approve Lots 1-6 and disapproval of Lots 7-11 based on the fact that there is very little ramp access to provide service that they require. The City is also providing space that will be adequate for the. fish processors that do not lease land. They are more concerned with fish than developing and clearing property. He further feels that the land would be better utilized for purposes set aside in the plan and the fish processors would not have to spend lots of money developing land they really do not need. Jay Cherrier questioned the Contingency Plan. Ed Rogers was concerned with the gravel surface area and. whether the airplanes would tear it up. He wanted to know if it would be level with the runway area. Mr. Swalley stated that they should be able to run in and out. Phil Bryson stated that the blast area has light pavement and it is possible that it will have to be repaired. Mr. Swalley stated that the City will be maintaining the area and will have a grader out there as needed. There was a discussion concerning what a fix base operator is and whether the last two applicants fit under this category. Mr. Swalley stated that he felt that these applicants need a place to offload and the previous applicants plan to handle air cargo and make it more of a viable operation. Ted Carson stated that .economics wouldn't allow just to offload fish; they have an investment and will need to develop a year- round use. Kenai Packers needs long term availability of land. They will only need the land for the next two years, but the future shows that it could develop into a larger operation. Phil Bryson questioned whether they had any of the necessary certification for aircraft or maintenance. Mr. Carson said that at the present they do not but they do not know what they will be doing in the future Ranger Nelson stated that he felt if the Commission considered Salamatoff an F.B.O. operator then all the fish processors should be. Bill Nelson stated that the City should get the best use out of the property and try to get the most business out of the land. ~ The Stoehner's will provide service to all different people and some of the others will only provide for themselves. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Page 7 There was further discussion concerning the Contingency Plan and ramp space. Bob Hicks of Columbia Wards Fisheries stated that .the Contingency Plan is a stopgap and is concerned that they will be left out during the next few years. Ed Rogers pointed out that Columbia Wards and Kenai Packers plan to use the same Heres to haul fish. Ted Carson stated that his company needs to look for a long- term area for fish developing. MOTION:~> Jerry Andrews movedy~ seconded by David Curtis, to table this lease application. The motion passed with Sol Raymond voting negative. E. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 9,10,11 Dragnet MOTION: Sol Raymond moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to bring this item to the table. The motion passed with Jerry Andrews and Sol Raymond voting no. Jim Swalley stated that Dragnet is scheduled into the Contingency Plan and there is no access to the lots they are asking for at this time. Jay Cherrier stated that these lots are in a swampy area and expansion of the apron doesn't look too good at this time. He further stated that if he has a guaranteed space on the Contingency Plan, then he will withdraw his application. 6. NEW BUSINESS A. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Tract B Dollar Rent A Car Peggy Norton of Dollar Rent A Car was present and explained to the Commission that her company plans to build a 1200 ft area fer cargo, storage, and rental ec{uipment. The building will be steel or concrete and will be a car rental turn-in area. They are asking for at least a 20-year lease. They could possibly service other car rentals. It will be paved 30 ft. around the building. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Page 8 Phil Bryson questioned what they plan to do with the material when they strip the area. ~fe is concerned that this should be hauled off the sight and. not just buried. At this point the Commission discussed the Site Plan Checklist which was included in this meeting's packet. The Commission. wanted to add to the list that-the applicants tell the Commission how they plan to dispose of the overburden. MOTION: Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Sol Raymond, to recommend that Administration adopt a policy to make this Site Plan Checklist available to the lease applicants to aid them in drawing a useful site plan. The motion passed unanimously. MOTION: Sol Raymond moved, seconded by Jerry approval of lease application: F:B.~ Dollar Rent A Car, the desired lease also recommend that before the lease they prepare a site development plan list just approved and return to the Andrews, to recommend 9. Subdivision, Tract B to should be for 55 years and goes before Council that according to the check Commission for its review. ~_ The motion passed unanimously. B. Lease Application: F.B.O. Subdivision, Block 1, Lots 7,8,9,10,1 International Steel Erectors Ed Brown was present to explain what his company wishes to do with the lots in four stages. It was explained that he is over filing on Lots 7 and 8. He did state that he could foresee someone other than aircraft related business leasing the building. Jim Swalley again stated that at this time there is no access to Lots 9, 10 acid 11. The Commission acknowledged receipt of this lease application. MOTION: Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to table this lease application until the lots are available. The motion passed unanimously. C. Discussion: Street Numbering System - Glacier State and Stan McLane ~ Bill Nelson explained that Glacier State Telephone made up a system for street numbers so that they could use it to help them in locating subscribers .and the City could also use it. ..' Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Page 9 Regular Meeting, December 12, 1979 Stan McLane stated that in 1971 he prepared a number for each lot in the City based on the Ordinance .plus a card file for each. Malone prepared a grid system which has since not been followed. Glacier's system. might vary some. Bill Thompson stated that it is costing Glacier State money trying to locate new subscribers and they need to have addresses of some sort. The original system hasn't been updated since 1971 and their system is the most complete of the City's subdivisions. They intend to give the City the vellum copies and have the City maintain the system from this point. Pat Hampton stated that Glacier State is not going to provide service to a customer until they find out what their address is. They are going to be forced to know where they live. Betty Glick stated that Glacier State had made a presentation to Council and thought the project is good. The fire and police are anxious to use it. Glacier has spent a considerable amount of time on this and it can't do anything but help. MOTION: Sol Raymond moved, seconded by Jim Blanning, to accept the offer from Glacier State Telephone and incorporate their numbering system into the City. The motion passed unanimously. It was mentioned that an ordinance is on record which requires the Citizens of Kenai to put house numbers on their buildings. D. Discussion: Requiring Survey work to be done before issuing building permits. There was a brief discussion concerning the need for lot lines to be located by a surveyor before the building permit is issued. Most of the Commission members agreed that it would add an unnecessary regulation on the builders. 7. OTHER BUSINESS A. City Council Report: Betty Glick The Council adopted the Comprehensive Plan at the last meeting. There was a presentation on Section 36 lands and Capital Improvements at that ffieeting. B. Borough Planning and Zoning Report: Betty Glick Betty Glick briefly commented on the Water Survey Study and ~ requested that the Commission members give her direction or feelings on this. Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission Page 10 Regular Meeting, December 12,.1979 -~ C: City Administrative Report There was no::report. D. Borough Report: Jim Hendricks There was no report given. 8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS It was suggested that the December 26 meeting be cancelled. There were no objections. The Commission briefly .discussed the letter concerning State land and subdivisions. They did not feel as though they can make their own rules and the State should comply with the area in question. The Commission directed the Administration to prepare a Resolution for the next meeting concerning this. The Administration also requested the secretary to write a letter to the Corps concerning postponing .discussion of Chester Cone's. permit until the January 9 meeting. i Betty Glick outlined the proposed capital improvements and commented about the December 20 meeting and the need for the Commission members to come up with capital improvement projects. The commission-requested that the secretary send a copy of the December 10 memo concerning Capital Improvements to each of them. 9. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Dwain Gibson, to adjourn the meeting. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 11:30 p.m. Respectfu(l~ly submitted, ~. anice E. Taylo Secretary to the Commission