HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-10-08 P&Z MinutesKenai Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting, October 8, 1980
Kenai Public Safety Building, Z. p.m.
__~ Philip Bryson, Presiding Chairman
AGENDA
1. ROLL CALL
2. .PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Petition for a Conditional Use Permit for drilling of
Cannery Loop Unit No. 3 Well by Union Oil Company of
California
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF September 24, 1980
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Discussion: Airport Lands at the Intersection of
Airport Way and the Spur Highway
B. Discussion: Final Plat Approval
C. Ordinance No. 612-80, Sale of Airport Lands
6. NEW BUSINESS
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. City Council Report: Betty Glick
B. Borough Planning and Zoning Report: Betty Glick
C. City Administration Report
D. Borough Report: Jane Gabler
8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
9. ADJOURNMENT
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Kenai Advisory Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting,. October 8, 1980
Kenai Public Safety Building, 7 p.m.
Philip Bryson, Presiding Chairman
1. ROLL CALL
Present: Phil Bryson, Jim Blanning, Jerry Andretivs, George
Fox, Wayne Regelin, and Ex-Officio I~tember
Betty Glick
Absent: David Curtis
Others: Larry Vavra and Rich Boyle of Union Oil Company
Councilman Ron Malston, Tom Sleight, City Engineer
2. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Petition for a Conditional Use Permit for drilling of
Cannery Loop Unit No. 3 jVell by Union Oil Company of
California
Rich Boyle and Larry Vavra representing Union Oil Company
were present to answer questions. They stated that this
well was to be much like the Cannery Loop No. 2 }tirell. They
are still waiting for permits from the Corps on this well.
The area where No. 3 ti-Nell will be located is Industrial
whereas the No. 2 tVell is located in Rural Residential.
Phil ,Bryson opened the meeting to the public for comments.
No comments were received either from the public at the
meeting or in writing.
MOTION:
Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Wayne Regelin, to approve
the petition for a conditional use permit for drilling of
Cannery Loop Unit No. 3 jVell by Union Oil Company o.f Calif.
as written.
Phil Bryson questioned
pit. Mr. Boyle stated
No. 1 Well was put in.
and later the contents
would be policed while
fenced later.
their request for an on site disposal
that they had requested this when
The pit is coated with a material
are trucked out to a dwnp site. It
activity was going on and will be
The motion passed with Jim Blanning abstaining due to a
conflict of interest and George Pot stating that he is
an employee of Union Oil.
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION:
Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by Jim Blanning, to approve
the agenda.
There were no objections.
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4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF September 24, 1980
MOTION:
Jim Blanning moved, seconded by George Fox, to approve
the minutes of September 24, 1980 as submitted.
There were no objections.
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Discussion: Airport Lands at the Intersection of
Airport Way and the Spur Highway
This item was addressed at a work session last Thursday..
with the Commissiariers int~.rested in '.what area const~tues
Ryan's Creek. The Commissioners used a contour map and
felt that the 80-foot contour was a fairly reliable guide
for the surveyor as to the back of the parcel. They
further felt that any subdivision along the Spur Highway
should extend back to that 80-foot contour unless there
would be a way to put a road back into that area. Jerry
Andrews felt that it made no sense to leave good property
behind lots fronting the highway. Any lots should extend
to the wet area.
The secretary was asked to inform the City Administration
of the Planning Commission's comments.
Tom Sleight, City Engineer, brought an aerial map £or
the Commissioners to review.
Betty Glick questioned whether there was any consideration
regarding dividing up the remaining portion of the parcel.
Jerry Andrews stated that he could not see any reason to
divide the land up into smaller lots until there was a
need or a request to,do so.
Betty Glick stated that the land should be platted as one
parcel with the wetlands identified.
B. Discussion: Final Plat Approval
Jerry Andrews stated that the Commissioner's discussed this
item at the work session. They discussed the City Ordinance
regarding water, sewer, and streets. He stated that as
written, the Ordinance does not make sense and cannot be
enforced. It is not consistent and made development impossible.
Up to now it has been ignored.
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~ George Fox stated that he did not think that the Ordinance
should be enforced, and that it would be unreasonable to
make a subdivider comply with the ordinance the way that it
is. He does not think that development should be discouraged.
Roads etc. should not be accepted until approved by the City.
He felt that the Ordinance should be changed, that the
Commissioners and anyone interested should get together and
discuss this, and come up with a workable ordinance.
Jerry Andrews stated that he was in agreement with George Fox
but wanted to know what the City should do with the streets
as they are now.
George Fox felt that the City should not provide service to
streets until they are brought up to standards. The citizens
should not have to pay for someone else's problems.
Phil Bryson stated that he felt that the improvements should
be done by the property owners.
Jim Blanning stated that he was concerned with what. is going
to happen.
Jerry Andrews felt that the problems lie with the streets
that were put in 15 years ago.
George Fox stated that they need to get the information out
to :.the public and let them know that their streets will have
to be up to standards before they can be accepted.
Jerry Andrews stated that he felt that they had identified
a public relations problem.
Phil Bryson felt that each Commissioner should go over the
Ordinance and make comments. Then a public hearing could
be held for public comments.
Jerry Andrews felt that public hearings only draw from the
people that have problems and are not usually a good
representation from all the public.
Tom Sleight stated that it is more than a problem in City
Hall and that the idea might sound good, but will it help.
and change things.
George Fox felt that the information could be given out
to the public and if they did not like it, they could form
an assessment district. Some people are still going to
complain to the City.
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Phil Bryson stated that there have been a number of
- assessment districts proposed but it takes municipal
monies'in order .to .fund. them.
George Fox stated that it is the responsibility of bhe,City
to organize and run LID projects and also to handle on a
day to day basis the management of the budget. The City
should keep enough capital in reserve for these projects.
Betty Glick explained that a few years ago the City was
,.not in a position to do anything but now Council has
reversed this position and now can fund assessment districts.
Phil Bryson stated that if the City could get together and
initiate a local improvement district, then the City could
fund it.
The Commissioners further discussed citizens' complaints
regarding the amount of taxes they pay and Wayne Regelin
suggested that different areas would be taxed according
to the area.
George Fox felt that LID is workable and what most Cities
have done. It would take care of most complaints.
Phil Bryson suggested that this item be brought back ~:.
as an item under Old Business at the next meeting and
asked that the Commissioners review this item before
then and make comments.
C. Ordinance No. 612-80, Sale of Airport Lands
This item was discussed at a work session where the City
Attorney, Ben Delahay, explained the Ordinance. It was
the general consensus at the work session that this was
a good ordinance.
George Fox stated that he had written comments which he
forgot to bring to the meeting. He commented that ,'~
if the City is to enter the business as a competitive
seller, and they should, then the buyer and seller share
the selling costs. If all the fees and costs are passed
onto the buyer then he would be paying a premium cost
rather than a competitive one. He felt that the Ordinance
penalized the buyer.
Jerry Andrews stated that he felt that if the appraisal is
correct, then no one will pay more for the land. He further
felt that the City was penalizing themselves in that they
were not going to provide title insurance. If the buyer
wants it then he will have to purchase it.
George felt that deficiencies could be corrected with
minor rewording. Phil Bryson felt that it does not leave
room for changes.
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~ The Commissioners discussed who should handle the transactions,
the City or real estate personnel. George felt that this
would be channeling business to a single interest group to
do the latter. Jerry Andrews felt that the broker should
work to earn the fee.
This item is to come up for public hearing at the November 5
Council meeting and Council has a work session on this on
October 29.
The Commissioners were requested to give this item further
review and it would be discussed at the next meeting.
6. NEW BUSINESS
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. City Council Report: Betty Glick
B. Borough Planning and Zoning Report: Betty Glick
C. City Administration Report
D. Borough Report: Jane Gabler
8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
9. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION:
Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by George Fox, to adjourn
the meeting.
There were no objections.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned
at 7:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Janice E. Taylor
Secretary to the
Planning Commission