HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-10-22 P&Z MinutesKenai Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting, October 22, 1980
Kenai Public Safety Building, 7 p.m.
Philip Bryson, Presiding Chairman
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AGENDA
i. ROLL CALL
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF October 8, 1980
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Discussion: Final Plat Approval
B. Ordinance No. 612-80, Sale of Airport Lands
6. NEW BUSINESS
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. City Council Report: Betty Glick
B. Borough Planning and Zoning Report: Betty Glick
C. City Administration Report
D. Borough Report: Jane Gabler
8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
9. ADJOURNMENT
Kenai Planning and Zoning Commission
Regular Meeting, October 22, 1980
Kenai Public Safety Building, 7 p.m.
_~ Philip Bryson, Presiding Chairman
1. ROLL CALL
Present: Phil Bryson, David Curtis, Jerry Andrews, Jim
Blanning, and George Fox
Absent: Wayne Regelin and Ex-Officio Member Betty Glick
Others: Bill Brighton, City Manager; Jim Swalley, Airport
Operations Manager
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
MOTION:
Jim Blanning moved, seconded by George Fox, to approve the
agenda as submitted.
There were no objections.
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF October 8, 1980
MOTION:
~ Jerry Andrews ,moved, seconded by Jim Blanning, to approve
the minutes of October 8, 1980 as submitted.
There were no objections.
5. OLD BUSINESS
A. Discussion: Final Plat Approval
George Fox stated that he reviewed the marked up ordinance
which Tom Sleight, City Engineer, supplied to the Commission
and felt that the present Ordinance, as written would hinder
development. He further stated that he had ide~.s about
changing this Ordinance and would like to present them to the
Commission for its review and discussion. It will take some
work and the City Attorney'to put it into the correct legal
form.
Any requirements of this Ordinance can be waived by the'
City Council after being approved by the Planning Commission
provided that the owner of the subdivision stipulate in the
covenants of the subdivision the existing deficiencies and
clearly stating the nature of the deficiencies.
The owner of the subdivision is required to obtain a.
'~ signed statement from the purchaser of any lot stating
that they have read and understand the covenants including
the nature of the platting deficiencies. A copy of this
signed statement:, is to be filed with
is to become part of the deed of record.
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-~ Mr. Fox stated that he thought the Commission would like
to discuss these ideas and come up with the final wording.
Phil Bryson stated that this would require a land status
report which would be a long, drawn out operation.
George Fox said that it would provide a means_so that a
purchaser of lots in a defective subdivision would be
made aware of the deficiencies. The purchaser would have
to state that he is aware of those deficiencies.
Jerry Andrews felt that the intent of this is good, but
this would mean that the City would be interfering with
private contracts.
Phil Bryson stated that the only way .that the City could
have any part in this would be at the approval level.
George stated that it would be a condition for approval of
a none standard plat. Phil questioned how an owner could
be required to make this public except on the plat.
Jerry Andrews stated that it could be
but there might not be any covenants.
some of the people coming in and comp
streets. He questioned whether there
State Statues that would require that
on the plat.
apart of the covenants
It might eliminate
laining about substandard
was anything in the
deficiencies be noted
Phil Bryson thought that there wasn't any.
George Fox suggested that the City Attorney review these
thoughts and come up with a workable ordinance. There are
subsections that include the fact that purchasers are
subject to assessments when the City does certain improvements.
Other items could be listed on the covenants.
Jerry Andrews stated that if something of record need be noted
it could be included on the original document so that people
would be made aware of any problems. George stated that
prob ems should be a noted matter of record from. one purchaser
to the next and would make the new purchasers aware of any
deficiencies.
Bi11 Brighton stated that it was Council's intent to have
the Planning Commission give them suggestions as to how the
Ordinance should be changed and then those suggestions would
go to the City Attorney to be put into legal form.
George Fox further suggested that this could be handled by
exception for each subdivision. The Ordinance could state
certain minimum standards. He felt that it was not fair
~ for a naive buyer to purchase deficient property. He did not
feel that it is practical to enforce the present ordinance as
written. It is a very desirable standard but not a practical
one.
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Bill Brighton questioned the Commissioners as to what they
would suggest for ideas that would make the Ordinance
enforcable and logical.
George Fox stated that he would not delete anythin g but
would waive standards by providing notice to the buyer that
this subdivision is not up to the standards of the City.
Jerry Andrews supported George Fox by stating that it does
not make sense to require water and sewer where there are
no mains or sidewalks where they are not needed.
George Fox stated that the Ordinance could be rewritten and
subdividing conditions be eliminated. It should further
state that the City will not accept or provide service until
the standards of the City are met.
Phil Bryson commented that the City already has a requirement
to hook up to City water and sewer if so many feet away from
the main, but it has not been enforced. He felt that the
persons putting in the larger subdivisions should come under
other stipulations. The major portion; of the subdivisions
built in recent years have been small ones.
George outlined two ways which this Ordinance could be handled.
1. Grant exceptions to the original ordinance.
2. Rewrite the original ordinance and lower the minimal
acceptable requirements and just not accept or provide
services until brought up to the standards.
Jerry Andrews stated that he did not think that the City
should grant exceptions but rather it should not maintain
them. The latter would be less subject to political whims.
An ordinance would have to be written stating the minimum
standards. When the subdivider is building the roads, the
City should come out and inspect them.
Phil Bryson suggested that people could be notified at the
Borough level and required that the Ordinance must be a
condition of the final plat.
Bill Brighton commented that presently the City is seeking
funding to upgrade some of the streets which are being
maintained by the City and are substandard. Phil Bryson
felt that the individuals on these streets should pay at
least one half o.f the cost.
Jerry Andrews hoped that from now on the City would not
accept any roads before they are up to standards.
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Bill Brighton stated that from now on the policy would remain
the same but the City is trying to f_ix the old streets that
bhe City has been maintaining. '
Jerry Andrews stated that no official plat should be
approved until:
1. All five points are up to standards.
2. Bond is provided
3. Disclosure statement and the provision for a LID should
be for all items not just the one.
4. Should differenciate between the large and small subdivisions.
B. Ordinance No. 612-80, Sale of Airport Lands
Jerry Andrews stated that he hesitates to create a solution
to a problem that he did not have all the facts about. He
questioned clarification of the reasons and priorities for
the sale of the land. Was it to increase the tax base,
dispose of the. headaches in handling the land, etc.
Bill Brighton stated that the number one priority was to
dispose of the land and the Commission needs to review the
Ordinance to clear up any hang ups within it that will
hinder the disposal.
Jerry Andrews had the following comments.
1. Real Estate Commissions should be stated as not to exceed l00
instead of a flat 80.
2. Buyer furnish title insurance should be seller provides
title insurance.
3. Closing costs should be furnished at least in part by
the seller.
4. Buyer and seller should share legal costs.
Bill Brighton explained that the amendments which were in
the packet were proposed by the Council after the Ordinance
was put together by the City Attorney.
George Fox commented on Section .22.05.040, Sale Procedure.
He objected to the last part concerning earnest money. He
felt that this should be estimated by the City and should
have a top limit. The buyer should pay the charge but the
City should pay the overrun.
Jerry Andrews felt that the City could still recover the
costs. The buyer would be liable for damages for costs
over and above the estimate. If the buyer backed out, then
he would be liable. Jerry Andrews had a problem with some
of the terms used.
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1. Earnest money should be consideration or good faith deposit.
2. Earnest money agreement should be agreement to purchase.
Phil Bryson thought that Amendment No. 7 was too objective.
The Commission discussed title insurance and credit checks.
They felt that the credit check was a subjective evaluation.
Bill Brighton felt that prior liens or judgements against a
person could be handled with a title report.
Jerry Andrews felt that if there was no title insurance then
the City could sell a piece of property then a credit check
would be inappropriate to see if the person would pay.
George Fox commented on Amendment No. 9.
He thought that there should be a limit of the percentage
of the land that would be advertised for exclusive listing.
It was thought that if a brokex was not involved then the
City might be more willing to negotiate a lower price.
Bill Brighton thought that this gives alot of authority to
one person.
Mr. Fox stated that he did not disagree with exclusive listing
but that it should be limited.
Jerry Andrews commented that he thought not all the land
would be put on the market at the same time.
Amendment No. 8.
The Commissioners felt that this was contrary to the Section 36
findings ,and will be subsidizing a special interest group. They
tried not to do this with Section 36.
Mr. Fox stated that he did not believe that the City should
subsidize a business by giving land or special privileges. If
they can't make it in a competetive market then they should
not start a business in the first place.
Bill Brighton commented that legislatures all over have
provided ways to help and encourage development of industries
in other areas. The competition for getting those businesses
to locate in a particular area is great. The City needs
something to negotiate for those businesses to give them the
edge.
George Fox questioned why if you are going to give land to a
big company why not help the small guy. If you have to give
business an edge then the business might not be what you are
looking for any way. People should be treated equally.
Bi11 Brighton commented that the City could operate that way
if all cities did this.
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Jim Blanning commented that if a City is trying to encourage
the growth of business then the City needs an edge.
Mr. Andrews said that he is opposed to subsidies any where
and does not like the disparity between special interest groups.
Mr. Brighton gave an example of how a city could have the edge
on encouraging a business to locate in an area.
Mr. Andrews felt that there probably were other areas that the
City could make attractive to businesses such as reducing
sales taxes and property taxes. A1r. Brighton stated that it is
extremely difficult to do anything about cutting taxes.
Dave Curtis stated that he did not agree with the wording in the
Ordinance concerning business enterprise. It should be industry
not business. He thought that it would help the tax base to bring
in industries.
Amendment. No. 9
The Commission questioned Numbers 2 and 3. The Commissioners
thought that No. 3 might violate Alaska statues and is written
in an ambiguous manner.
Phil Bryson questioned how the Ordinance addresses spliting
~ a fee. lair. Andrews felt that the City should not go into this.
The exclusive agent of the City is their representative. He
will determine how it should be set.
Mr. Andrews further stated that granting subsidies is something
that owe has to be very careful with and made in good conscience.'
Mr. Brighton stated that the Council is trying to formulate
what the Land Committee recommended. It is a very important
Ordinance that the City will have for a very long time.
There will be a work session on this on October 29 and a
Public Hearing on November 5. Copies were sent to the people
on the Land Committee.
6. NE6V BUSINESS
7. OTHER BUSINESS
A. City Council Report: Betty Glick
B. Borough Planning and Zoning Report: Betty Glick
C. City_Administration Report
Mr. Brighton commented that the Planning Commission will be
getting information regarding the wetlands study and that
the State will be funding a portion of this study. He
stated that he had attended a meeting in Anchorage where all
the different agencies were present to discuss how the
process for approval could°be shortened.
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Regular Meeting, October 28, 1980
D. Borough Report: Jane Gabler
8. COMMISSION QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS
9. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION:
Jerry Andrews moved, seconded by George Fox, to adjourn the
meeting.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at
8:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Janice E. Tay or
Secretary to the Commission