HomeMy WebLinkAbout1983-02-23 P&Z MinutesKENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
Kenai City Hall
Regular Meeting, February 23, 1983
Lee Lewis, Chairman
AGENDA
1. ROLL CALL ~~
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of January 26, 1983 .and February 9, 1983
5. OLD BUSINESS
a. Discussion: Walkowski-Deland Land Exchange Plat
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Discussion: Kenai City Council Resolution 83-21
b. Discussion: Setback Encroachments
7. PLANNING
a. Section 36 Lands
b. Sign Code
8. OTHER BUSINESS
a. City Council Report
b. Borough Planning Report
c. City Administration Report
d. Other
9. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
10. COMMISSION QUESTIONS & COMMENTS
11. ADJOURNMENT
KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting, February 23, 1983
Kenai City Hall
Lee Lewis, Chairman
1. ROLL CALL
Present: Lee Lewis, Phil Bryson, Ozzie Osborne, and Hal Smalley
Absent: Chris Monfor, Bob Roth, excused
2. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None
3. AGENDA APPROVAL
Add 6-b Dolchok-Kenai Land Exchange, PZ83-8; move 6-b to 7-c.
There were no objections
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of January 26, 1983 and February 9, 1983.
In the minutes of January 26, Commissioner Smalley asked that under
roll call, Mary Quesnel be deleted.
j MOTION:
Commission Smalley moved to approve the minutes of January 26, 1983
as corrected, seconded by Commissioner Bryson
Motion passed unanimously
MOTION:
Commissioner Smalley moved to approve the minutes of February 9, 1983
seconded by Commission Bryson
There were no objections
NOTE: Commissioner Osborne noted that Mr. & Mrs. Jackson have 3 children
not 2, however in checking the recorded tape Mr. & Mrs. Jackson only
mentioned having "2 small children".
5. OLD BUSINESS
a. Discussion: Walkowski-Deland Land Exchange Plat
This item is coming to the Planning Commission for review without a
resolution because a resolution for a preliminary plat was approved
by the Commission in 1979. The plat returns due to a major change
in the plat and a time expiration.
KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting, February 23, 1983
Page 2
Lots 3 & 4 correspond to the Central Heights Subdivision First Addition
trat has already been approved by this Commission. Jeff Labahn noted
on the plat the changes from the 1979 plat.
Commissioner Bryson explained for the new commissioners that this plat
shows a proposed land exchange between two private parties. It should
be noted that the plat crosses three different zones. Commissioner
Bryson pointed out that there was a portion of the plat that was approved
at the last meeting that was in variance with this plat that being the
R.O.W. Walker Lane. The State R.O.W. is shown slightly different than
on the plat the Commission approved, would it be possible to varify if
this will be reflected before final. On one plat. the R.O.W. ends at
Beaver Loop, on the other it ends at the property. The 1979 plat shows
a portion of land that goes all the way down to Beaver Loop but the
1983 plat does not and in talking with the surveyor, it was his intent
to keep lots 3 & 4 consistent with Central Heights First Addition,
however Mr. Labahn is concerned with leaving two very small triangle
remnants. Commissioner Bryson felt that the R.O.W. should be required
just in case the city wants to run utilities along Walker Lane even
though it is bluff. Mr. Labahn stated he would inform the Borough.
The alignment of the 1979 plat showed the Beaver Loop R.O.W. as 50'
diminishing the lot 5 City of Kenai lands, the 1983 plat shows the
correct R.O.W. explaining the diminished lands.
MOTION:
Commissioner Bryson moved to ratify PZ79-14 with the addition that
1) reference to zoning on the plat be removed, 2) the half roadway
dedication of Walker Lane be extended to Beaver Loop,' (amendment
to Central Heights Subdivision) to rephrase - the proposed plat
of Walksowski-Deland Land Exchange reflects 30' R.O.W. being .dedicated
along Walker Land, request Central Heights Subdivision First Addition
also reflect this, seconded by Commissioner Smalley.
Councilman Wise asked if there is a requirement that they put that
R.O.W. in. Commissioner Bryson answered that if there were he would
delete it. Councilman Wise stated that he:~would prefer the dedication
of the R.O.W. not be made, perhaps a 30' utility easement from that
junction of Portlock and Walker to Beaver Loop the reason being the
road going over the hill. Commissioner Bryson felt that a roadway
never would in all probability. Councilman Wise asked if there wasn't
a City ruling that if you dedicate a road you put it in to City
standards. Commissioner Bryson stated that it is abutting an existing
road 30'.
VOTE:
Motion passed by unanimous roll call vote
KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Page
Regular Meeting, February 23, 1983
6. NEW BUSINESS
a. Discussion: Kenai City Council Resolution. 83-21
Councilman Wise stated that the Council had drafted this resolution
but no action has been taken until recommendations could return from
the Commission. It was pointed out that this had already been discussed
at length by the Planning Commission.
Ruby Coyle .asked to be heard concerning this issue stating she opposed
it on the same grounds that it had been turned down by the Commission
the first time it had come before them, those being basically the
cost involved and until Title 29 can be changed to ensure the Borough
will not take the zoning powers back once it has given them to the
cities.
Commissioner Smalley asked Councilman Wise to comment on the Council's
feelings about this issue. Councilman Wise stated that the Council is
experiencing some frustration in particular the issue on the townhouses
and see a need to see some things straightened out. Personally Councilman
Wise sees many problems, one being a significant amount of money. If
zoning powers are accepted it will perpetuate the need for the land
manager and defeat the entire effort of the landsman in that a new
zoning ordinance may have to be created in the near future taking up
perhaps 90% of his time rather than doing the originally intended job
the Council desired, that of City owned lands. Councilman Wise agreed
with Mrs. Coyle in that planning should go with zoning, if it doesn't
it creates further problems with trying to obtain funding from the
State.
Commissioner Bryson asked Jeff Labahn if September 1st would be a
feasible date if he were to redraft a zoning ordinance. Mr. Labahn
responded that the City of Homer has gone this route with assuming
the zoning power however they already had the ordinances drafted before
requesting those powers. What the City could do is ask for the zoning
power from the Borough, then enact or adopt by reference the existing
Kenai Zoning Code and wouldn't have to be in an overhauled fashion,
depending on the Council's decision. should they wish to rewrite the
whole zoning code, then it would be unrealistic. Commissioner Bryson
asked if Jeff Labhan would propose addressing the signs or similar
portions, Mr. Labahn stated that would have to be the perogative of
the City Council. Commissioner Smalley asked if Homer would have good
handle on items such as cost, Mr. Labahn stated that it was really too
early, however what they did was to hire a planning technician to deal
with the zoning ordinances and other activities.
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting, February 23, 1983
>~
Page 4
The. Commission further discussed the issue with input from Mr. & Mrs.
Coyle, with the consideration of more public hearings.
Commission broke for 5 minutes
MOTION:
Commission Bryson moved to recommend. the setting. of Resolution 83-21
for public hearing at the Council level, a) request a summary of the
financial impact of the City's budget be presented, b) administration
summarize in more detail a proposed time phase concerning take over,
c) to have addressed whether it is the Council's intent to adopt the
existing zoning ordinances or is it .their intent to submit a new
ordinance, d) inclusion of recent prior public hearings concerning
transfer of zoning powers from the Borough to go to Council, seconded
by Commissioner Smalley.
VOTE:
Motion passed unanimously
To reiterate, Commissioner Bryson stated that 1) recommend that the
resolution 83-21 have a public hearing at the Council level, at that
time have administration have a financial report available for the
Council, that the timing put down on paper rather than a flat month
time, and would like it summarized, "is it the intent of the City to
adopt the existing ordinance in total or is zoning concerned or are
we going to have Jeff working. through the nights coming up with
something and finally to have the minutes discussed go to the Council.
b. Preliminary Plat: PZ83-8, Dolchok Land Exchange
Mr. Ron Dolchok explained that what he was doing in essence was
exchanging portions of his lands for portions of City lands which would
place all of City lands on the east side of Beaver Creek and all of
Mr. Dolchok's land on the west side, the land itself being pretty
equal in value. Commissioner Bryson explained that the philosophy is
to approve and address the plat rather then the exchange itself.
Mr. Dolchok will retain all surface rights even on the land exchanged
with the City, the City has already. agreed to this. Mr. Dolchok will
be submitting his subdivision plat at a later date showing details.
MOTION:
Commissioner Bryson moved for approval of Resolution PZ83-8, Dolchok
Land Exchange plat, seconded by Commissioner Osborne.
Motion passed unanimously
KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Page 5
~ Regular Meeting, February 23, 1983
7. PLANNING
Chairman Lewis stated that all three of the items listed on the agenda
could be discussed in more detail at a work session and asked for
Commission comments. Commissioner Bryson stated that it was his
understanding the Malones was working on a plat dealing with Section 36
lands and would it be possible to wait until after the plat is available.
Councilman Wise explained that Malone's was asked to 1) develop a plat
that :would show the water & sewer crossings, 2) identify where the bluff
is, 3) show a setback, 4) compute the acreage involved, and these issues
are nearly completed.
It was the concensus of the Commission that these items would be tabled
until after the Section 36 plat would be available and that this would
be a recurring item meeting by meeting until the information comes
available and a work session can be scheduled.
8. OTHER BUSINESS
a. City Council Report
Councilman Wise informed the Commission that the Council will convene
as a Board of Adjustment on the appeal of Horizong Construction on the
variance request and this will be a special meeting on March 7th. The
other item is that the proposed Stellar Avenue assessment district was
defeated.
b. Borough Planning Re~pori~.t
No representative has as yet been appointed by the Borough
c. City Administration Report
Howard Hackney wished to make note of the fact that in the public hearing
portion of the minutes for the variance request, Ms. Munstermann had
made reference to the McCubbins townhouses being built over in Old
Town, the actual facts are that the townhouses were approved but never
built.
9. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
None
10. COMMISSION QUESTIONS & COMMENTS
Chairman Lewis read a notice of public hearing dealing with.the proposed
jail facilities in Wildwood with Roger Endell, Director, Division of
KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting, February 23 ,1983
Page 6
Corrections will be available for comment on March 3, 1983 at 7:00 p.m.
at the Kenai Council Chambers.
11. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned. The next
meeting of the Planning &~~Zoning Commission will be March 9, 1983
at 7:00 p.m, in the City Council Chambers.
Respectfully submitted:
net Loper, ecretary
CITY OF KEN AI
_ ~ ~~~~1 ~
~ P. O. BOX 580 KENAI, ALASKA 99611
' -- -- TELEPHONE 283 7535
w _
February 10, 1983
ME;MORANDt?M
To: Tim Rogers, City_A.ttor_ney
From: Howard. Hackney, building Inspector j,
Re: Proposed chances - Sign Code
Proposed change - add ?.1.76.160
A.?.(a) states that, "Churches, public buildings and charitable
institutions may, for their own use, display signs, bulletin
boards and announcement signs not to exceed present sign code
size." (21.76.160 r. - 2) s
Are "public buildings" buildings oven to the public or buildings
owned by the public? Need de.f.inition. Need definition of
"charitable institutions." The phrase from the first paragraph,
"f_or their own use" - I would take to mean signs like,
"Basketball Tournament Tonight", or "Sunday Service 1.1:00 a.m."
I would not take that to lnean that they could advertise anything
just to make money. For instance, the billboard advertisincl,„at
the hiclh school would not be allowed. In my opinion, the
"Oilers" would not come under this exception, even though it is
obviously written to except the school and the Oilers. The
Oilers is not a clillrch, is not a public building and is not a
charitable institution.
Section t3 - 3 in the present zoning very clearly allows bulletin
board type signs.
The last phrase in the first paragraph states, "- not to exceed
present sign code size. (21.76.160 c-2)" Does that mean the si~xn
code size for the zone that the "church, public building, or
charitable institution" is in or by reference to "c-2" does that
allow them signs permitted only in col?lmercial and inc~lustrial
zones? Since it does not refer to "c-1" they could not 'nave a
sign located flat against a building or a marquee.
~ Proposed chance ?_1.76.160 A.S, add, "-except time and temperature
or changing message display signs." There is no definition for. a
display sign.
Present sign code 21.75.15Q c "Signs permitted in commercial or
industrial zones
1. Signs located flat against a building or a
marquee.
2. One ground, pole or projecting sign -." (Commas
added according to proposed sign code change.)
From this it would seem that commercial and industrial zones
could have no roof signs, no temporary signs, no fin signs and no
portable signs.
Proposed sign code "Definitions"
"D Sec. 205 Display surface is the area made available by the
sign structure for the purpose of displaying the advertising
message."
When the lettering is cut out, individual type letters placed on
the side of a building (.Alaska State Bank, Malston's, Katmai
Motel) is the whole side of the building the area of the sign?
General Questions:
1. Are there any regulations on rotating or moving signs?
~ ?.. What would be the area of a spherical sign? Would it be the
total area of a sphere or the area of a circle through the center
of a sphere?
3. in7ould political signs require a permit and where could they
be located?
4. What. would be the area of_ a double sign, back to back with a
message on each side? The area of the sign or twice the area of
the sign? On a pole sign would a four sided sign be the area of
each side added together?
5. Would any signs be allowed in the conservation zone?
5. If someone ~~ecorated outside with Christmas tree lights that
flash, ~,aould that be a violation?
7. The definitions in the proposed sign code ordinance were
taken from the Uniform Sign Code, which is updated every three
years. If changes were made in a newly adopted edition, would
the Kenai Sicxn Code have to be amended to be consistent with the
Uniform Sign Code?
I would recommend that a great deal more work be done before any
changes are made to the sign code.
1 cc: Wm. J. Brighton, City Manager
~lanning & Toning Secretary
HH/kh
,y ~ Z.
CITY OF KENAI
P. O. BOX 580 KENAI, ALASKA 49611
-- TELEPHONE 483 • 7535
February 28, 1983
Mary Quesnel
Rt. 3
Kenai, AK 99611
Dear Mrs. Quesnel:
With deep appreciation but. regret, we accept your resignation
from the City Planning & Zoning Advisory Commission.
The City is indebted to you for the services you rendered.
S,~cerely,
', ~.,~~,
Ronald A. Malston
Mayor
RM: jw
CITY OF KENAI
P. O. QOX 580 KENAI, ALASKA 99611
TELEPHONE 283 - 7535
MEMORANDUM
T0: Kenai Advisory Planning & Zoning Commission
FROM: Janet Loper, Secretary
SUBJECT: Joint Work Shop with Kenai City Council
At the meeting of the Kenai City Council on March Z, 1983, the Council
suggested a joint work shop to be .held immediately after the hearing
for the Appeal for Variance for Horizong Construction. The date for
that hearing and the joint work session will be Monday, March 7, 1983
at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers with the work session immediately
following.
The item on the agenda for discussion will be Section 36 Lands.
FLANNItiG AtiD
Roll
Call
ZOVI~'G
;~~
~~,
CO:~td1ISSI0N 1tEETItiG OF
~ ~:.~ ~ ~~
,.~ ~;
~s ~ ?} /
////r
Chairman .. ~ '' ~,,
V Lee Lewis
Vice Chairman
~/ Bob Roth
Phil Bryson '~'~ `-~ ,;
/// ~
~- Chris Monfor
'rtrf. Hal Smalley
.
f Bob °RZ3'tY~ ~
t ~ ~;,
4
\
.
t ~
..~~ ~
~
~
,
Ex-Officio