HomeMy WebLinkAbout1985-05-08 P&Z MinutesKENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
May 8, 1985 - 8:00 p.m.
Kenai City Hall
Lee Lewis, Chairman
Joint Commission/Council Worksession - Kenai Comprehensive Plan Project
6:30 - 8:00 p.m.
AGENDA
1. ROLL CALL
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Resolution PZ85-35: Amending Zoning Cade -Sign Code Section 14.20.220
5, APPROVAL OF MINUTES of April 24, 1985
6. OLD BUSINESS
a. Concept Lease Application: Tracts 8-1 & B-2, CIIAP S/D ~4 -
Retail Mall - Fred Meyer Real Estate Properties, Ltd.
b. Discussion: Vacation of 30' Easement - Govt Lots 33, 34 & 35 -
Catholic Church
c. Preliminary Plat PZ85-36: Inlet View S/D Third Add. (revised)
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Request to Purchase City-Owned Lands: Lot 5, Walkowski-Deland S/D
and Lot 5, B1k 4, Kenai Original Townsite
8. PLANNING
Land Manager Conference Report - 1985 American Planning Association/
Canadian Institute of Planners Annual Conference
9. REPORTS
a. City Council
b. Borough Planning
c. City Administration
10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
11. INFORMATION ITEMS
Proposal to Lease Land for Aggregate Extraction - Doyle Const. Co.
Golf Course RFP (copies available at the meeting}
Memo from City Clerk
Council Agenda
12. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
13. ADJOURNMENT
KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
May 8, 1985 - 8:00 P.M.
Kenai City Hall
Lee Lewis, Chairman
1. ROLL CALL
2.
3.
Present: Ali Commissioners Present
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Add 3-a, Peggy Arness
Agenda approved with the addition
PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
a. Connection of Lots 5&6~Blk 7, and Lot 1, Blk 8, Kenai Townsite
Peggy Arness came forward to explain her request. At the Planning
Commission meeting of January 9, 1985, the Commission reviewed a
vacation request for the described property. At that time the Commission
had requested a 10' pedestrian access easement along the top of the
bluff. It is this 10' easement that Mrs. Arness would like removed
for the two basic reasons of: 1) Lot 1 B1k 8 is useless when cut off
by the walkway, and 2} the trail that is developing in the vicinity is
badly eroding the bank and if encouraged will eventually cause
substantial loss of usable property.
Commissioner Bryson stated that the purpose of the 10' walkway was to
provide public access from one city property to another city property
the purpose mainly being in the interest of tourism. Peggy Arness
pointed out that this would divide the 2 properties in half rendering
each unusable. There are other points of access very near, one being
Spruce Street and the Meeks Crossing which is on City property.
Commissioner Bryson requested postponement of action until the next
meeting, giving the Commission a chance to view the property. The
Commission agreed. This will appear as an item for consideration at
the next meeting.
4. PUBLTC HEARING
a. Resolution PZ85-35: Amending Zoning Code - Sign Code 14.20.220
Howard Hackney, Building Inspector came forward and explained his
revisions. All were designed to make the code easier to interpret. On
item 3 - intent is to allow government signs off premises.
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MOTION:
Commissioner Carignan moved, seconded by Commissioner Oleson, to adopt
P285-15.
VOTE:
Motion passed unanimously.
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of April 24, 1985
Minutes were approved as submitted
6. OLD BUSINESS
a. Concept Lease Application: Tracts B-1 & B--2, CHAP S/D #4 -Retail
Mall - Fred Meyer Real Estate Properties, Ltd.
Jeff Labahn reitterated that this application was before the
Commission at the last meeting at which time it was determined that
there was not enough information to approve. The application now
returns with supplemental information which was handed out before the
meeting. The front page covers the details requested. Jeff pointed
out the that the site plan is for the Juneau complex. The Kenai
complex will be very similar with some differences. "This application
should be looked at as a concept from a standpoint that due to the
magnitude of the development and lack of action in entering into a
lease agreement, they have fairly general information as to how they
plan to develop the site. What they request is a go-ahead on a
concept level based upon the information submitted and once a lease
agreement is finalized they will then prepare the final detailed site
plan which would return to the Commission and the Council prior to
construction. I would recommend we receive all detailed information
required of any other applicant, i.e., landscaping, snow removal,
internal circulation, parking, and specific phase development dates."
Commissioner Bryson stated that, "our action last meeting was in no
way a rejection of the project although it came out that way in the
paper and 'rumbled around Council' that way. We tabled it because
there was no backup, no representative, no site plan, no represent-
ative from administration, no recommendations, basically no backup at
all. As a formal document last week was the first time the Fred Meyer
project had been mentioned to this body." Commissioner Bryson asked
Jeff Labahn is this was going to be the approach for all in-coming
projects where the property is undeveloped? Jeff Labahn answered that
this property is substantially bigger than any looked at previously.
Commissioner Carignan, noting that the complex in Juneau is smaller,
if the applicant would need the entire parcel, referring to Mr.
Petty's application. Jeff Labahn answered that other developments
were planned which would be in support of their activity. Commissioner
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Smalley noted that the lease for Howard, Garner, and Smith was very
similar and was for the same entire piece of property. Jeff Labahn
explained that these applicants had much the same approach.
Mayor Wagoner came forward and stated that this proposal began last
October. It was noted in Commission minutes that a desire had been
made known that the Commission wanted to be a part of these type of
discussions. Mayor Wagoner explained that this is not always possible
and why. Mayor Wagoner went on to explained that the Petty lease was
turned down because Council did not feel that the twin theaters were
not the highest and best use of that property. There has been
evidence that theaters and shopping centers are not compatible uses.
Mayor Wagoner assured the Commission that Fred Meyer plans to not only
follow the landscaping ordinance but will most probably exceed the
minimum requirements.
Commissioner Smalley expressed a desire for the Commission to be more
involved in potentially overlapping lease applications. Commissioner
Carignan expressed appreciation of the fact that options were
discussed with Mr. Petty.
MDTION:
Commissioner Carignan moved approval of the concept lease application
for Tracts B-2 & 2, CIIAP S/D for Fred Meyer Real Estate Properties
subject to meeting all requirements provided by the cads, that they
have a detailed site plan, snow removal plan, landscaping plan, access
and curb cuts, circulation, parking, fencing, and storage areas,
seconded by Commissioner Smalley.
VOTE:
Motion passed unanimously.
b. Discussion: Vacation of 30' Easement - Govt Lots 33,34, & 35 -
Catholic Church
This issue comes before the Commission for recommendation to be passed
on to the Council at their next meeting. Since this is a returning
issue, John Williams brought the Commission up to date on the
circumstances which brought about the request.
Commissioner Bryson, in reference to the photos, stated that it
appears that the trailers from the adjoining property were on the 15'
easement, a chain link fence belonging to the trailer court has cut
off access to the 3O' fence and asked if the church had a fence along
the southern side. John Williams answered yes, that it was on the
southerly border of the 15' easement which is on the legal boundary of
~ the church's boundary. The fence was never completed and will not be
until the question of the easement is resolved.
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MOTION:
Commissioner Smalley moved to recommend the granting of the vacation
of the 30' easement on Govt lots 34 & 35 back to the ownership of the
Catholic Church, seconded by Commissioner Carignan.
VOTE:
Motion passed unanimously.
c. Preliminary Plat PZ85-36: Inlet View S/D Third Add. (revised
Jeff Labahn introduced this plat as being revised after discussion at
the last meeting. The difference is that Norman Street now extends to
the southerly boundary of the 5 acre parcel to the north. There is a
plat available which shows the owner's intention to develop Tract B
which is the Norman St./Rogers Rd. portion. There is only one
instance where the Commission has required a second access, that being
Inlet Woods where there were approximately 200 lots funneled into one
access.
Stan McLane, representing the owner, came forward and explained the
design. Mr. McLane compared the present plat with that of the
original plat which was recorded back in 19b0. It appears that at one
time there were strips set aside between the 5 acre parcel and Tract A
which would be traded to provide access to the second phase. "Right
now the owner doesn't feel like having a street through there as we
are going ahead with the first phase." When the 5 acres are developed
there will be room for the access and lots as planned.
Commissioner Carignan asked if there was any way to go through Tract
A. Stan McLane answered that the gully is wetlands and is zoned
Conservation. Putting the access through would be expensive and would
have to be filled requiring a permit from the Corps. plus a lift
station is in close proximity but it has not been looked into.
Commissioner Carignan asked how many lots would be in the first phase,
answer about 25 lots with a time line being as soon as the plats are
approved.
Jeff Labahn explained that if this plan is adopted, i.e. Norman St. is
terminated at the boundary of the adjoining tract, if and when that
owner develops that property he will be required to continue that
access, the question being how long before that tract is developed.
Commissioner Bryson asked if the intent was to retain the administ-
rative comments from PZ85-30 be included with PZ85-36, answer yes,
with the exception of the comments regarding the covenants, they
should be struck.
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MOTION:
Commissioner Bryson moved approval of PZ85-36 with incorporation of
revised staff comments, seconded by Commissioner Osborne.
Commissioner Bryson stated that possibly Norman St. proposed to link
up with Lawton should be included in a street master plan that the
City may develop as part of the master plan. Commissioner Carignan
asked that this be stated mare strongly, Commissioner Smalley asked
if this was not a requirement already at the Borough level, answer
yes.
Commissioner Smalley asked when phase II was anticipated, answer 1986
or depending upon sales of the units.
Greg Daniels asked to be heard. Mr. Daniels is a resident of Inlet
View, explained that the original plat filed in 1960 was probably gaol
for 1960 but not in 1985. "I feel that we have some legitimate
concerns. We question when that 5 acre parcel is developed, it could
be as much as 10 years from now. We are not willing to compromise
safety for 10 years. When you stub out the road there it is blacked.
Children play in the street is a fact and cars park there. It is a
60' ROW and there is 32' driving surface, however there are safety
factors, one being snow removal. In the winter the snow is piled at
least 3' high, shortening the driving surface creating a one-way
street. Rogers Rd curves making visibility dangerous. With the new
addition, approximately 100 cars will be added to use the street per
day, not counting any additional traffic. Our main concern is not to
stop development but for safety. Now is the time while it is still in
the planning stages to develop the other access and we feel that Tract
A is a strong possibility knowing that the 5 acre parcel may never be
developed. The lift station is farther away from the area than Mr.
Mclane indicated. There is enough roam for a ROW through that tract.
Mr. Daniels entered a petition into the record signed by all but 3
property owners in Inlet View. The petition objects to the present
plat and "asserts that Rogers Rd cannot support the traffic that the
proposed subdivision will create".
Mr. Jerry Hanson of 107 Paula in Inlet View commented that the request
is for the second access right now.
Commissioner Smalley asked what kind of legal position the City is in
regarding requiring a road through either Tract A ar the 5 acre
parcel. Jeff Labahn stated that there is no ordinance either City or
Borough which covers such items as: for every certain number of houses
there will be x number of access, etc. A possible solution would be
to limit or eliminate parking in the streets. In an attempt to
visualize the access vs units, Commissioner Carignan and Commissioner
Bryson used Redoubt S/D as an example where there is a mixture of
apartments and homes numbering about 20 with 2 access points. Commissioner
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VOTE:
Smalley pointed out that the City is requiring the owner of the 5
acre parcel to dedicate some of his land for ROW where the request
from the public has been that the existing owner provide that access
for his own development.
Commissioner Carignan asked if there was a way to combine access
points between Tract A and the 5 acre parcel which would be a
beginning. Jeff Labahn stated that the engineer had considered it,
however, it creates a half dedication situation which was not
desirable. Stan McLane agreed, stating that the better plan would be
to go ahead with a full road through Tract A or with the present
plan.
Motion passed unanimously.
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Request to Purchase: Lot 5, Walkowski-Deland S/D and Lot 5, Blk 4,
Kenai Original Townsite
These are City properties and individual requests have been received
for purchase. The police and fire departments, and the Parks & Rec
Commission have been contacted and they find no use for the property.
MOTION:
Commissioner Bryson moved, no problem with the Walkowski property,
however on the Townsite proposal recommend the application be denied
until after the study on the area has been completed, seconded by
Commissioner Osborne.
VOTE:
Motion passed unanimously.
Jeff Labahn asked if it was the intent of the Commission to review the
Old Town parcel after the study is completed, answer yes.
8. PLANNING
Land Manager Conference Report - 1985 American Planning Association/
Canadian Institute of Planners Annual Conference.
Jeff Labahn reported that the meeting was "mildly worthwhile" and
finds the trend appears to be towards more flexibility in items such
as variances, conditional uses, etc. Mr. Labahn attended a seminar
which dealt with public relations, the media, and dealing with
controversy which proved informational.
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The state planning association meeting will be held in Homer and will
be geared towards commissioners and one man planners. The meeting
will be in September and the exact date will be passed along later.
Commissioners are invited and encouraged to attend.
9. REPORT5
a. City Council
Councilman Wise referred the Commission to the Council Agenda. No
comments.
b. Borough Planning
There were no city plats.
c. City Administration
Jeff Labahn asked for a clarification of the motion pertaining to Fred
Meyer. "My suggestion was incorporating all information into the
~ lease agreement and require them to submit a detailed site plan upon
lease execution through both Commission and Council prior to any
construction and is that the intent of the motion". Answer yes.
Commissioner Bryson asked to have a policy established for other
tracts of land similar. The Commission and Councilman Wise further
discussed the issue,
Commissioner Carignan presented an article from the Anchorage Times
written by a realtor concerning zero lot line construction. The type
of construction was felt to be derogatory in nature to communities.
The Commission discussed the issue of the sale of city lands and
decided the motion was not worded clearly.
MOTION:
Commissioner Bryson moved to reconsider the motion, seconded by
Commissioner Carignan.
UOTE:
Motion passed with unanimous consent
MOTION:
Commissioner Bryson moved for division of the question, seconded by
Commissioner Carignan.
VOTE:
Motion passed by unanimous consent
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MOTION: (First Division)
Commissioner Bryson moved to recommend the disposal of Walkowski-
DeLand parcel, seconded by Commissioner Carignan.
VOTE:
Motion passed with unanimous consent
MOTION: (Second Division)
Commissioner Bryson moved to recommend disposal of Lot S, Blk 1 Kenai
Townsite, seconded by Commissioner Carignan
VOTE:
Commissioner Bryson stated his reasons for wishing the division and
recommendation not to allow sale of the Kenai Townsite parcel was that
lands within the boundary of the Old Towne project should be
maintained status quo until the study is completed.
Motion failed unanimously.
10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCWEDULED TO BE HEARD
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11. INFORMATION ITEMS
No questions or comments
12. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
The Commissioners gave their vacation times for the summer. Chairman
Lewis will not be in attendance at the next meeting. Notice will be
given of any meetings not having a quorum.
13. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:40 pm
Janet Loper
Secretary
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