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Home My WebLink About1985-11-13 P&Z MinutesKENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION November 13, 1985 - 7:00 p.m. Kenai City Hall Lee Lewis, Chairman AGENDA 1. ROLL CALL 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 3. PERSONS PRE5ENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARp 4. PUBLIC HEARINGS 5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of October 23, 1985 6. OLD BUSINESS 7. NEW BUSINESS a. Preliminary Plat PZ85-76: Luebke 5/D b. Preliminary Piat PZ85-77: Seaman SID #1 c. Preliminary Plat PZ85-78: Toveson S/D #2 d. Preliminary Plat PZ85-79: Youngblood-Warren SID #2 e. Preliminary Plat PZ85-80: Dena'ina Point Estates #2 8. PLANNING 9. REPORTS a. City Council b. Borough Planning c. City Administration i0. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD 11. INFORMATION ITEMS Council Agenda Borough Planning Agenda Letter from Mayor Knowles Resolution Approving Capital Improvements List 12. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIO NS 13. AD30URNMENT KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION November 13, 1985 - 7;00 p.m. Kenai City Hall Lee Lewis, Chairman 1. ROLL CALL Present: Lewis, Carignan, Oleson, Osborne, Smalley, Absent: Bryson, Zubeck, Excused The Commission desires to adopt the Consent Agenda format. MOTION: Commissioner Carignan moved to adopt the Consent Agenda format, seconded by Commissioner Smalley VOTE: Mohan passed unanimously. 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA ~ Add: item 7-f & g. Both items are preliminary plats MOTION: Commissioner Carignan moved items a through a be considered Consent Agenda items, seconded by Commissioner Osborne. VOTE: Motion passed unanimously. *AI1 items listed with an asterisk (~) are considered to be routine and non-controversial by the Commission and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items unless a Commissioner sa requests, in which case the item will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in this normal sequence on the agenda as part of the general order. 3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None 4. PUBLIC HEARINGS None 5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of October 23, 1985 Minutes approved as submitted PLANNING COMMiSSiON November 13, 1985 Page 7 6. OLD BUSINESS None 7. NEW BUSINESS MOTION: Commissioner Carignan moved to approve items 7a-g under the Consent Agenda, seconded by Commissioner Smalley VOTE: B. 9. Motion passed unanimously. * Consent Agenda i a. Preliminary Plat b. Preliminary Plat c. Preliminary Plat d. Preliminary Plat e. Preliminary Plat f. Preliminary Plat g. Preliminary Plat tams PZ85-76: PZ85-77: PZBS-78: PZBS-79: PZ85-B0: PZBS-$1: PZ85-82: Luebke S/D Seaman S/D #1 Toveson S/D ~2 Youngblood-Warren S/D ~2 Dena'ina Point Estates #2 Alaska State Land Survey 84-157 Sprucewood Glen #5 PLANNING Commissioner Smalley asked the status of the Comprehensive Plan Update. Dick Morehouse has asked to be present at the next Commission meeting to present a Land Use Plan map for input before proceeding on to the news media. The Commission unanimously requested that Mr. Morehouse provide some type of written documentation prior to the meetings for the Commission to review before a presentation. Commissioner Carignan asked for a progress report on the Zera Lat Line Ordinance revisions, Planning Specialist Loper has obtained a copy of the latest revisions done by Anchorage. The zero lot line concept will be lane under a separate ordinance of its own rather than under the existing townhouse ordinance. REPORTS a. City Council Councilman Wise attending Municipal League b. Borough Planning Commissioner Bryson attending Municipal League PLANNING COMMISSION November i3, 1985 Page 3 c. City Administration None 10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD Carol Osborne came forward to address the Comprehensive Plan as it pertains to the "Lawton Strip" which is proposed for rezoning at the next meeting. Mrs. Osborne feels that with proper planning the strip could become a valuable commercial entity, stating that the property is too valuable for just trees. Why not approach the Landscaping Board to come up with a compromise on trees and buffer. Chairman Lewis asked if any of the Commissioners had attended the meeting at ERA. Commissioner Smalley stated that both himself and Howard Hackney (present in the audience} attended. A representative of Pizza Hut came with a full set design of their building plus an appraisal of moving existing trees existing to create at least a 10' buffer. Same time ago the Parks & Rec Commission had decided that they could not handle the strip as a park, therefore leaving it as a buffer strip. At the time Craycroft was developed, at a Council meeting, Mayor Wagoner indicated that that section of land would be a trade-off, i.e. it would remain conservation for those residents across the road in Inlet View and Central Hts. Pizza Hut assures us that they will do their best to bid and obtain the property. The gamble comes when the property does ga up for bid, there is always a chance that they may not be able to bid high enough. Commissioner Carignan asked if there was any discussion regarding the availability of other lands. Commissioner Smalley indicated he had spoken to Mr. Schilling and Mr. Lowry. The representative of Pizza Hut had stated that economics was not an issue, however it would be nice if they owned the building and property for the tax advantage. The Commission asked why the ballfield had not been chosen, Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer answered that the Council will have to determine if they will release the property, plus the fact that should the area be released and rezoned, there has already been a request to purchase the entire section including the ballfield. Commissioner Smalley stated that as one member, he would like to see that comprehensive plan before proceeding, the Commission agreed. Most of the people at .the meeting were definitely in favor of the Pizza Hut but not in that greenbelt area. One concern is over an alcohol franchise so close to a residential area and a junior and senior high school. The bike path is fast becoming useless due to the development in the area. 11. INFORMATION ITEMS ~ Council Agenda Borough Planning Agenda ~ PLANNING COMMISSIQN November 13, 1985 Page 4 Letter from Mayor Knowles Resolution Approving Capital Improvements List 12. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS Commissianer Carignan, "every time we have a public hearing, we're dealing with feedback from people, and what impact is that feedback supposed to have regarding our vote, what is the overriding factor. Is the overriding factor that the majority of the property owners are against the issue, then that should way the most. If i recall, when there is overall public sentiment against something, it requires a more weighted vote, i.e. it takes 5 votes to pass instead of 4." I believe I read it somewhere, probably in the Anchorage papers regarding an issue. Its a way of weighing something that if there is is overall public sentiment against it, it requires more votes to pass it. That is the kind of situation that takes into account what the sentiments of the people are and still has a chance of passing, but takes that sentiment and feel into account. I know we are dealing with it individually, but there comes a time when people are against something but if we are to continue to grow and be a dynamic city, its going to have to happen. Planning Specialist Loper asked to check on this and report back at the next meeting. Commissianer Carignan commented that, with this public hearing coming up, we have heard the same people several times, if there was same way we could get one person to speak for the group stating that they either have or have not changed their minds, we can save an awful lot of time. This is not to restrict the public's right to speak, and surely would not do so on a basis where the issue has not been heard before, however in this case it is repetitive. Chairman Lewis suggested meeting with the public before the meeting to ascertain if they would go along with this. Commissianer Smalley stated that there is construction going on at the River Bend Sand & Gravel Pit on Beaver Loop currently owned by Pat & Mary Doyle. Many years ago there were 2 pits side by side, one owned by Borgen, one by Doyles. When dealing with the pits, there was a limitation an the permit that no construction was to take place. A residence appears to be constructed. Howard Hackney agreed stating that there are also plans to build a shop. In issuing a building permit it is assumed that the buildings are a natural part of operating a gravel pit. The permit was approved contingent upon the Doyles operate the pit under the same restrictions as the Former owners, Borgen. Mr. Hackney stated that the house is for the gatekeeper. Commissioner Smalley felt concern that the permit was transferred with the understanding that there would be no additional ~ buildings, that the pit was going to be operated in the same manner as l ~ PLANNING COMMISSION November 13, 1985 Page 5 under Borgen utilizing the existing buildings. Mr. Hackney stated that a cabin is far more appealing than the old trailer left by the previous owner. A new church was built this summer on Beaver Loop with a great deal of parking spilling out along the road including a sign within the ROW. Mr. Hackney informed the Commission that he has been in to speak with them. Commissioner Osborne stated that in the. last Council meeting, regarding leased lands, the FAA wants the City to hold the land for at least 2 years before it is sold. Commissioner Osborne feels this is good policy whether it be FAA or not. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer explained that FAA felt that the City was circumventing the bid process by leasing property to an individual who then proceeds to purchase in a short period of time, this person not under the restrictions of having to go to bid. Council has not taken any action at this time. 13. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 7:48 PM. Janet A. Loper Planning Specialist PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION Ro 11 (~ 1°~ Call v ///// Chairman 'Lee Lewis \I Phil Bryson Richard Carrignen Bob Oleson Ozzie Osborne Hal Smalley #d Bill Zubek - _ TO DO