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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-08-10 P&Z MinutesKENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 - 7:00 P.M. Kenai City Hall Hal Smalley, Chairman AMENDED AGENDA 1. ROLL CALL 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD 4. PUBLIC HEARINGS 5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of July 13, 1988 6. OLD BUSINESS 7. NEW BUSINESS a. Lease Application: Lot 6, Blk 2, CIIAP S/D - Trucking Co, Trailer Parking and Freight Transfer Lot - Carlile Enterprises b. Release of Tidelands for Lease: Seaward of Lot 2, Proposed Kristine S/D #1 c. Release of Tidelands for Lease: Seaward of Lot 3, Blk 3, Proposed Kristine S/D #1 d. Release of Lands for Lease: Lots 6 & 7, Sec . 15, T5N, R11W - George Miller 8. PLANNING a. Review of Comprehensive Plan 9. REPORTS a. City Council b. Borough Planning c. City Administration 10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD 11. INFORMATION ITEMS a. Council Agenda b. Borough Agenda ~ 12. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS 13. ADJOURNMENT KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 - 7:00 P.M. Kenai City Hall Hal Smalley, Chairman 1. ROLL CALL Present: Smalley, Brown, Bryson, O'Reilly Absent: Church, Nault (excused) 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Agenda approved as submitted 3. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None 4. PUBLIC HEARINGS None ~ 5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES of July 13, 1988 Minutes approved as submitted 6. OLD BUSINESS None 7. NEW BUSINESS a. Lease Application: Lot 6, Blk 2, CIIAP S/D - Trucking Co, Trailer Parking and Freight Transfer Lot - Carlile Enterprises Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer explained that this is a straightforward application. It does not appear that there will be any new driveways into the street, and it will be used for parking and freight handling. MOTION: Commissioner Bryson moved for approval, seconded by Commissioner Brown. VOTE: Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 Page 2 b. Release of Tidelands for Lease: Seaward of Lot 2, Proposed Kristine S/D #1 Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer explained that this is similar to the situation with Northland Services. This will be the first round for approval, the consideration of releasing the land for lease. Not necessarily for an individual, but just the area itself. Both of these leases are (Lot 3) close together. This one is next to Salamatof, on the opposite side as the last application. The other lease for lot 3 is a bit further down. Both are about 2 acres. MOTION: Commissioner Brown moved for approval, seconded by Commissioner Bryson. Commissioner Bryson: is the motion to approve satisfactory to what you need, answer the motion should be in the form of your recommendation to Council regarding the release of these lands. Chairman Smalley read the section under "policy" regarding beneficial industries and asked if this would be considered a beneficial industry. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer it would be difficult to say at this point because the code conflicts with itself. It wants you release the area for lease with no specific individual in mind and yet it is saying the only way you can do that is if it is a beneficial industry. Until you have an application in front of you can't really make that determination. If you release this area for lease and take applications for lease and find that it is not a beneficial industry you really haven't lost anything by going ahead. Chairman Smalley: A privately owned off-loading facility is not a beneficial use to the City. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: That would be the all commission and Council's job after this evening. Commissioner Brown: My interpretation of that would be an industry employs some local people, then that would be benefit to the City as opposed to some outside firm coming in and leasing it. There would be no dollars coming back into the area. Commissioner Bryson: Is it probable that competitive leases would come back to us? Answer no. In the situation with Northland that didn't happen. Commissioner Bryson: In both cases for request for releases are they the same petitioner? Answer no. Commissioner Bryson: In both cases they control the upland? Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: They have an agreement, Royal Pacific has a lease on the upland side and I think the sage owner has the entire strip and has separate agreements with both. ~ Commissioner. Bryson: Do you happen to know the terms of the first release are? Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: We have not, KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 Page 3 } at this point, entered into a lease agreement with them. What was agreed upon was a two year lease with an option for renewal at the end of the two years and was based upon 6~ of the current value and works out to be roughly $2,000 per year. He will not be constructing this year. Commissioner Bryson: Was the two year lease term proposed by the City, answer no. It was proposed by him. That is the minimum time for leases, the maximum being 55 years. MOTION RESTATE: Commissioner Brown moved to recommend to Council that Planning & Zoning Commission recommends that the lands being considered for the possibility of being of beneficial industry to the City be considered available for leasing, approved by second - Commissioner Bryson. VOTE: Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote. c. Release of Tidelands for Lease: Seaward of Lot 3, Blk 3, Proposed Kristine S/D #1 Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer explained that this is the same situation and same general area. MOTION: Commissioner O'Reilly moved to recommend to Councl_that Planning & Zoning Commission recommends release of tidelands for lease, seconded by Commissioner Brown. Commissioner Bryson: The way these two have been laid out there is a considerable area of land between them and up to the end of the first one considered tonight. Are there other land owners up above that control land that we may be cutting off? Answer no, I believe Mr. Fredrickson owns one parcel and Mr. Dragseth owns the other. VOTE: Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote d. Release of Lands for Lease: Lots 6 & 7, Sec. 15, T5N, R11W - Georae Miller Chairman Smalley asked if this was the same parcel we had dealt with a couple years ago, answer no. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer explained that Mr. Miller came in in April 1987 and talked about it but never took it any further. He has decided to move ahead with it. Both parcels were patented to the City in 1964. There is no access to either parcel and he understands that, he feels that he can buy access. Commissioner Bryson: Is the entirety of this area uplands? It was unknown. Commissioner Bryson asked for material concerning KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 Page 4 topography. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer asked if this would be necessary in the decision to release. Commissioner Brown asked if Administration felt the City had no use for it. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: The Council will take a look at this after your recommendation. Commissioner O'Reilly: Do we want to know what he is going to use the land for at this point? Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: That should not be a consideration at this point. Commissioner Bryson: That may be, however, I would like to know if it is wetlands, what plans the City has for providing access, if it is reasonable to have access. Just because someone petitions for City land doesn't mean the City has to dispose of it. Commissioner Brown: I would disagree. I feel that if there are private people out there that are interested in land and it has been sitting there since 1964, and the City hasn't done anything with it by now and if there is an interested party out there, I would say to that private party "go for it". Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: As remote as it is, I can't think of anything that it could be used for. Commissioner O'Reilly: Why did we acquire this? Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: It was patented to us along with a lot of other lands. Chairman Smalley: Things are changing a great deal around the City and that particular stretch for those two parcels are probably the most heavily fished sections of the Kenai River. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: That is;.quite a bit of land, those parcels are probably about 11 acres. Commission recessed to review maps. Commissioner Bryson: Have any other commissions reviewed this? Answer no. Chairman Smalley: I think it would be a good idea since the Land Use Plan designates this for public use and conservation. Administrative Assistant Gerstlauer: If you feel better about it we can send it to Parks & Rec. There does not appear to be a time crunch. Commissioner Brown: We could recommend it contingent upon review by Parks & Rec. Chairman Smalley: The only problem I have with that is that technically we've made a decision. Commissioner Brown: If we recommend that the City Council put it up for sale and the Parks & Rec didn't agree with us, they can tell the Council that and it is their decision. MOTION: Commissioner Brown moved to recommend to the City Council that Lots 6 & 7, Section 15, T5N, R11W be made available for sale, seconded by Commissioner O'Reilly MOTION: Commissioner Bryson moved to table this item pending the Parks & Rec Commission reviews the proposal KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 Page 5 }~ VOTE Commissioner O'Reilly - no Chairman Smalley - yes Commissioner Brown - no Commissioner Bryson - yes Tie vote - motion fails VOTE: Commissioner Brown: Again, if this land has been in the City's hands since 1964 and the City has not found a reasonable usage for it, that it be made available to any private party that wishes to bid on it. Commissioner O'Reilly: The reason I voted no on the tabling is because it can still go to Parks & Rec. We as a Commission should make our decision and they can make theirs and the two together can be considered by Council. Commissioner Bryson: Without formulating even a considering a limited access to either one or both parcels, the City is doing a disfavor to themselves and also putting the upland property owner in a tremendous economic advantageous position. Commissioner Brown asked if letters were sent to everyone within 300', answer no. It is done through general advertising. Commissioner Bryson: I was only half joking when referring to an RV situation but if we open an area like this and the area is salvageable that might not be a bad idea. Chairman Smalley - no Commissioner Brown - yes Commissioner Bryson - no Commissioner O'Reilly - yes Tie vote - motion fails MOTION: Commissioner Bryson moved to recommend this issue go to Parks & Rec Commission, seconded by Commissioner Brown. Commissioner O'Reilly: I'm curious, is there a specific reason you want this to go before that commission first? Commissioner Bryson: Rather than working in parallel to them, we are the body that usually determines land uses. They have the prime input as far as uses, and we should be getting that information before making a decision. Commissioner Brown: I'm against holding up the process. I've been through this process before in the past and it seems like the bureaucracy continues to grow and private people come in and see an opportunity to provide something in the City and they have an idea and it takes months for it to get carried through and by then the KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 Page 6 l person has lost interest. However, if sending it to Parks & Rec is going to satisfy the two Commissioners that voted against making it available for sale, then I'll vote for it. Mr. Miller has put the light on the property and that may generate other interest. Commissioner Bryson: If that is the case then the City has the responsibility to provide access. Commissioner Brown: Before putting it up for sale? Commissioner Bryson: Legal access to it before putting it up for sale, otherwise I think they're doing the residents of the City of Kenai a disservice. Commissioner Bryson: Dos the Harbor Commission have jurisdiction over the middle portion of the estuary. Planning Specialist Loper: Generally, its from the bridge to the mouth of the river, particularly after the Kenai River Management Plan. VOTE: Motion passed unanimously by roll call vote 8. PLANNING a. Review of Comprehensive Plan The Commission set September 14th for the first work session. The Commission will determine the phases for development. 9. REPORTS a. City Council No Report - Councilman Measles not in attendance b. Borough Planning Commissioner Bryson was asked the status of two plats up for time extensions. There appear to be no problems with the plats. For the record the two plats are Central Heights S/D #4 and Central View S/D. Both plats are up for the second time extension. c. City Administration None 10. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD None 11. INFORMATION ITEMS a. Council Agenda ~ b. Borough Agenda No comments KENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION August 10, 1988 Page 7 12. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS None 13. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:10 P.M. Janet A. Loper Planning Specialist PLANNING & Roll Call ZONING COMMISSION DATE: ~~ , { ~ ~ ' ~ 0 ~~ i 0 ~ ~~ ~ Jr~(~ ~~ ~g~~ CHAIRMAN Hal Smalle \I Dave Brown ~~ ~ ~ Phil Br son Gloria Church Pat Nault Margaret O'Reil y ` ~t G - - TO DO LIST: r10TES