HomeMy WebLinkAbout1998-09-23 P&Z MinutesAMENDED AGENDA
CITY OF KENAI
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
KENAI CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
September 23,1998 - 7:00 p.m.
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1. CALL TO ORDER:
a. Roll Call
b. Agenda Approval
c. Approval of Minutes: September 9,1998
d. Consent Agenda
*All items listed with an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine and non-controversial by
the Commission and will be approved by one motion. There will be no separate discussion of
these items unless a Commission Member so requests, in which case the item will be
removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its normal sequence on the agenda as
part of the General Orders.
2. SCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT:
3. CONSIDERATION OF PLATS:
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
a. PZ98-40--A resolution amending KMC 14.20.150 -Conditional Use Permits (Continued
from 9/9/98)
b. PZ98-45 (PZ88-17)--An application to amend Conditional Use permit PZ88-17 to
include guiding for the property described as Lots 4 and 5, Angler Acres Part 3, 1035 &
1045 Angler Drive, Kenai, Alaska. Application submitted by James H. Cowan, 29243
Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu, CA 90265.
5. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Street Name Changes -Discussion regarding changing post-directionals to pre-
directionals, i.e. Willow Street North to North Willow Street
b. Planning & Zoning -Title 14 Revisions
6. OLD BUSINESS:
7. CODE ENFORCEMENT:
a. 518 Pine -Wee Folks Daycare -Operating without a Home Occupation Permit
8. REPORTS:
a. City Council
b. Borough Planning
c. Administration
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9. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED:
10. INFORMATION ITEMS:
a. Memo to City Clerk regarding September 21, 1998 Work Session Agenda
b. Letter to Karen Mahurin dated September 17, 1998
11. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS:
12. ADJOURNMENT:
~ CITY OF KENAI
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
September 23, 1998 - ?:00 p.m.
Chairman: Carl Glick
*** MINUTES ***
1. CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Carl Glick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
a. Roll Call
Members Present: Carl Glick, Phil Bryson, Teresa Werner-Quade, Barb Nord,
Karen Mahurin, Art Graveley
Members Absent: Ron Goecke
Others Present: Councilman Hal Smalley, Administrative Assistant Marilyn
Kebschull, Contract Secretary Barb Roper
b. Agenda Approval
Graveley requested the memo handed out prior to the meeting regarding
P&Z Title 14 be added under New Business, Item 5.b.
MAHURIN MOVED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS AMENDED AND
ASKED FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT. MOTION SECONDED BY
GRAVELEY.
AGENDA WAS APPROVED WITH THE ADDITION.
c. Approval of Minutes: September 9, 1998
NORD MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 9,
1998. MOTION SECONDED BY MAHURIN.
VOTE
BRYSON Yes
GOECKE Absent
MAHITRIN Yes
GLICK Yes
WERNER-QUADE Yes
NORD Yes
GRAVELEY Yes
MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 9, 1998 WERE APPROVED AS WRITTEN.
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d. Consent Agenda
* All items listed with an asterisk (*) are considered to be routine
and non-controversial by the Commission and will be approved by
one motion. There will be no separate discussion of these items
unless a Commission Member so requests, in which case the item
will be removed from the Consent Agenda and considered in its
normal sequences on the agenda as part of the General Orders.
2. SCHEDULED PUBLIC COMMENT: -None
3. CONSIDERATION OF PLATS: -None
4. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
a. PZ98-40 -- A resolution amending KMC 14.20.150 -- Conditional Use
Permits (Continued from 9/9/98)
GRAVELEY MOVED TO APPROVE PZ98-40. MOTION SECONDED BY
NORD.
Chairman Glick opened the Public Hearing and asked that testimony be
limited to three minutes unless it is a prepared written statement.
Those given testimony were asked to state their name and address for
the record and sign the sheet provided on the podium.
Verbatim Begins
Debbie Sonberg, 410 Cinderella Street, Kenai, Alaska. I never have to
turn a mic up to me. Um.. Am I supposed to sign in here as well?
Glick: Please.
Sonberg: Okay. Let's see, and today's date, that's not in that. Okay,
my name is Debbie Sonberg and I reside at 410 Cinderella Street here in
Kenai and ah... I would like to see this particular portion postponed and
handled in total with the ah... Mr. Graveley's suggestion for the new
business item because I think the whole thing needs to be considered as
a complete package. Last week, someone mentioned that the wording for
the... this particular change came from Seward's wording in their zoning
code and I have a copy of Seward's zoning code. I hope that all of you
have looked into that and maybe reviewed what Seward has in their
zoning code. Ah.. particularly their land use table is significantly
different that ours. I think maybe it started out being significantly
similar prior to the changes made about a year ago but they have a lot of
blanks on their land use table and their blanks say specifically, on their
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~~ land use table, that they are intended to be interpreted as not approved.
Seward's wording for this particular code item is more flexible than the
one we have right now but their land use table is much stricter than
ours, much more rigid in what could be allowed and what couldn't be
allowed and of all of the public hearings that I've sat in on and read
about for conditional uses that this Commission has considered over the
past few months, not one of them would have been considered
appropriate to even apply for a conditional use permit in Seward. So I
think taking Seward's wording and applying it to our land use table isn't
really an appropriate measure either and, again, I'd like to strongly
suggest that this item um.. be tabled and dealt with along with the
zoning code as a whole because I think that's the way it needs to be
handled. Thank you.
Glick: Okay. Thank you. Anyone else in the public wishing to speak to
this item?
Mark Schrag, 312 Princess, Kenai, Alaska. Ah... my name is Mark
Schrag at 312 Princess and I just support what Debbie said too and
didn't like it, it shouldn't be... we're talking about rev... reviewing some
of this... visiting some of these things... that now isn't the time to go
ahead and.. and open it up wider for this, so... that's all, I just... yeah, I
hope you would table it or... or defeat it.
Glick: Okay, thank you. Anyone else in the public wishing to speak to
this item?
(Sonberg requested to speak again from the audience, Glick gave
permission)
Sonberg: For the record it's Debbie Sonberg again. I also have a copy of
the Palmer's zoning code and Petersburg zoning code and these same
issues that have come up here the past few months would also not have
been allowed in their cities either. So I think our city is definitely taking
a trend this past year that you don't find in the other cities and
Petersburg, in the last seven years, has only had one appeal to the
Council, over the Commission's head, so to say. It was approved by the
Council, you know, the appeal was approved and upheld. They've got an
air-tight system and I think it would be good to look at some of these
other city systems finding out what's working and what's not working
and try to apply some of those here as well.
Glick: Okay. Is there anyone else in the public wishing to speak to this
item? Seeing none, bring it back to the Commission.
Verbatim Ends
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Mahurin expressed concern with the proposed amendment, particularly
under D. 2, under review criteria for the language still says the value of
the adjoining property. Mahurin continued, it concerns her that a
conditional use permit be viewed only as having an impact on the
adjoining property where, in her opinion, it could have a significant
impact on an entire neighborhood. Mahurin thought Sonberg brought
up some good points and reported that she talked with Sonberg since at
the last Planning and Zoning meeting. Mahurin stated since the
Commission is intending to review the entire Title 14 it would be her
recommendation that maybe it's time to take issue and look at other
cities. Mahurin also stated that she appreciates the time that staff puts
into giving the information they compile but maybe it is time that other
cities' zoning codes be gathered and reviewed, particularly on the
controversial conditional use permits. Mahurin indicated she would be
voting "no" on the item.
Bryson asked if there would be any significant difference if the term
"adjoining property" were expanded to include the neighborhood? This
would be similar to the value of the property in the neighborhood is not
significantly impaired.
BRYSON MOVED TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION, ITEM 14.20.150,
D-2 TO READ "THE VALUE OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY AND
NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANTLY IMPAIRED AND
THE PROPOSED USE IS IN HARMONY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE
PLAN." MOTION SECONDED BY NORD.
Mahurin stated she didn't remember the discussion held last meeting
regarding the development, extraction of natural resources and surface
extraction. Mahurin indicated she didn't see anything about that in the
proposed amendment. Mahurin asked if it was moved or something.
Kebschull stated the City Attorney did that because it's covered under
its own section of the code under 151, so it's in the next section of the
conditional uses. Mahurin asked if the language under 151 remain the
same. Kebschull replied, a recommendation for modification is not being
made to 151.
VOTE (Amendment)
WERNER-QUADE No GOECKE Absent
NORD Yes MAHLTRIN Yes
GRAVELEY Yes BRYSON Yes
GLICK Yes
Motion passes.
Werner-Quade referenced the current code, 14.20.150, under 1, ii.,
"Such uses must be in harmony with the intent of the zone." Werner-
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~) Quade indicated she brought the issue up at the last meeting in
relationship to D-2., second line, "proposed use is in harmony with the
Comprehensive Plan," Werner-Quade would like the second sentence of
D-2 of the proposed amendment to read, "proposed use is in harmony
with the Comprehensive Plan and with the intent of the zone." Werner-
Quade stated this would bring both issues together.
WERNER-QUADE MOVED TO AMEND THE MOTION TO CHANGE THE
SECOND SENTENCE OF ITEM D-2, TO READ "PROPOSED USE IS IN
HARMONY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WITH THE
INTENT OF THE ZONE." NORD SECONDED FOR PURPOSE OF
DISCUSSION.
Werner-Quade her main reason for recommending the change was to
somehow bring harmony to the intent of the zone.
Bryson stated he felt quite often the Comprehensive Plan does not agree
with a given zone and the best example would be the Anglers Acres area
where conditional uses are presumed to be appropriate since they've
been approved. It's not specifically the intent of the zone to provide that
and those situations would meet the test.
Mahurin asked if it would be acceptable under D-1, which states, "the
use is consistent with the purpose of this chapter...." Mahurin thought
the last part of the paragraph could be changed to read, "...and the
purposes and intent of the zoning district." Werner-Quade agreed that
would be better and stated she would hate to lose the intent of the zone
and moving the comment up under D-1 would solve the dilemma.
Glick confirmed the amendment proposed by Werner-Quade and noted
D-1 would say "the use is consistent with the purpose of this chapter
and the purpose of and intent of the zoning district." This takes the
place of Werner-Quade's first amendment.
Bryson asked staff if this would essentially read the same as the
Administration's intent. Kebschull thought the terms "purpose and
intent" could be interchanged, and therefore didn't think it would modify
the attorney's suggestion.
VOTE (Amendment)
NORD Yes MAHURIN Yes
GRAVELEY Yes BRYSON Yes
WERNER-QUADE Yes GOECKE Absent
GLICK Yes
Motion passed unanimously.
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`j MAHURIN MOVED TO POSTPONE PZ98-40 FOR TIME CERTAIN
WHICH MEANS WHEN IT IS BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION AS
PART OF THE RE-WRITE OF TITLE 14. SECONDED BY GRAVELEY.
VOTE
MAHURIN Yes GRAVELEY Yes
BRYSON No WERNER-QUADE No
GOECKE Absent NORD No
GLICK No
Two Yes, 4 No, Motion failed.
Bryson stated he felt addressing a section of Chapter 14, such as
Conditional Use Permits could be done in several months and thought
addressing the entire Title 14 would take in excess of a year. He added,
there are sufficient items in the conditional use section needing
correction and they should be corrected as soon as reasonably possible.
Bryson indicated that was why he opposed the postponement.
Werner-Quade concurred with Bryson's comments and stated that was
why she voted the way she did. Werner-Quade continued, she believed
the volume of conditional use permits that come before the Commission
warrant the definition to be updated and accepted as quickly as
possible.
Glick stated he wasn't present for the last meeting and didn't hear all
the public comment. He did, however, read the minutes very carefully.
Glick pointed out he read the proposed amendment very carefully as well
and compared it to the current one. Glick continued, in his opinion it
hasn't been made easier to get a conditional use permit, however, the
process of obtaining a conditional use permit has been clarified and
brought in line with what was done in the past in the land use table.
Mahurin stated she had supported the amendments made at this
meeting in the event it passed. Mahurin continued, she learned during
her tenure in Planning and Zoning that as one small thing is changed,
there is an impact somewhere else. She added, it made logical sense to
her to hold off on the item since it was agreed that the entire Title would
be looked at rather than having to amend something again. Mahurin
added, she thought the whole thing needed to be reviewed so that when
things are rewritten they are not piece-mealing. This item is being done
because of the Land Use Table. Mahurin stated she would like the
Commission to be more professional and together and look at the whole
thing and not have to mix apples and oranges. Mahurin indicated she
would vote "no."
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j Graveley stated he voted "yes" on the postponement but would vote "yes"
for the amendment because he felt it was needed. However, this should
not cloud or discourage the necessary changes needed in Title 14.
Glick recommended that the public really get involved when the work
sessions are held with Council on Title 14 and not wait until the
Commission is ready to pass the recommended changes. Glick
encouraged the public to attend the work sessions and give input at that
time.
Nord stated she voted to postpone this item at the last meeting as she
thought more public input was needed. Nord pointed out the issue was
re-advertised and less people are in attendance at this meeting. Nord
agreed the proposed changes are needed due to the problems
encountered in the past. Nord added, she would vote "yes" on the
amendment.
VOTE (Main Motion)
GRAVELEY Yes BRYSON Yes
WERNER-QUADE Yes GOECKE Absent
NORD Yes MAHURIN No
GLICK Yes
Motion passed.
b. PZ98-45 (P288-17) -- An application to amend Conditional Use
Permit PZ88-17 to include guiding for the property described at Lots
4 and 5, Angler Acres Part 3, 1035 8b 1045 Angler Drive, Kenai,
Alaska. Application submitted by James H. Cowan, 29243 Pacific
Coast Highway, Malibu, CA 90265.
NORD MOVED TO APPROVE PZ98-45. MOTION SECONDED BY
WERNER-QUADE.
Jim Richardson, 1015 Angler Drive, Kenai, Alaska. Richardson
reported he was the property owner two doors down from the CUP
applicant. Richardson stated he also requested the city review the issue
in his August 5 letter. Richard explained, the reason he requested the
City review the matter to accomplish two purposes. The first, because
the operation of the Beaver Creek Lodge had not been operating in a
manner which was consistent with the conditional use permit granted in
November 1988. Richardson continued, as of the summer of 1989 he
observed that guiding was a central component of the operation of the
facility and particularly given the Commission review of the proposed
new application. He added, he felt it important for the Commission to
understand what operations were actually occurring at the Beaver Creek
Lodge.
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Richardson stated he reviewed the staff recommendations on the issue
and was dismayed with two components of it. One was the
recommendation that guiding be allowed and a limit be set at six. He
and others in the neighborhood don't have a problem with reasonable
levels of commercial activity but they aze looking for some sort of
balance and this level of activity represents that sort of balance.
Richazdson pointed out that during the peak of the season, guides take
out two sets of anglers. If there aze six guides operating out of the
property then there would be a potential of people going out with five
anglers, twice a day which totals 70 people plus the activities associated
with the people staying at Beaver Creek Lodge. Richardson felt that was
too much and pointed out that he could live with a maximum of three
guides and asked the Commission not agree with the staff
recommendation of six guides.
Richardson continued, the second component of his concern was the
statement of staff that the water quality issues were the purview of the
DEC, therefore, they would just acknowledge that it was their problem.
Richardson pointed out he noted in his letter that DEC is basically an
organization that has been gutted and they are not doing that type of
work anymore and will not be in the future. Richardson continued, if
local governments don't deal with these issues where there are known
problems then nobody else would. Richardson stated he was not
representing himself as an expert on water and sewer but he did a
seazch with DEC and cited the authorizations that commercial activities
are required to have engineered systems that are registered with DEC
whether they be septic field system or a holding tank system.
Richardson reported the operator and property owner do not have that
registration so are in violation of DEC standazds. Richardson requested
in his letter that if the amendment is approved, the operator be required
to meet DEC requirements. Richardson pointed out this is consistent
with an action the Commission took in 1995 in a similar proposed
amendment from the owner of the Beaver Creek Lodge. It was approved
by the Commission but their proposed amendment was voted down so it
didn't become effective and they didn't ever change their operation from
Richazdson's standpoint.
Richazdson continued (referring to Bryson's comments and discussions
in the August 12 meeting) it was stated by one or two Commissioners
the Angler Drive area should be considered for recreation zoning.
Richazdson stated, he thought the azea, because of the narrow width of
' the lots and the fact that they aze very low lying and have poor drainage,
would be extremely difficult to allow high-level recreation development in
that azea. Richardson continued, looking at the requirements for set-
asides and setbacks for DEC uses and the level of DEC standards, it
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requires setbacks of 150 to 200 feet and with a 100 foot lot it would not
be possible. Without water and sewer service to that area, it cannot
comply with the requirements.
Richardson reiterated he didn't have a problem with a reasonable level of
commercial activity in the area but he asked the Commission strive for a
balance on the issue. Richardson thanked the Commission for the
opportunity to comment.
Clinton Coligan, 1025 Angler Drive, Kenai, Alaska. Coligan
introduced himself as the operator and resident at the address
Richardson questioned. Coligan reported he has been conducting
business there since 1986 and the operation hasn't changed other than
being down-scaled today from what it was several years ago. Coligan
stated he thought Richardson's comment regarding six boats was
ludicrous as he had stated at the August meeting, he has only four
boats, of which two are power boats that go in the Kenai River. The
other two boats are drift boats that don't stay on the property.
Coligan continued, Richardson made the comment they guide about 70
people per day when in reality the average number is actually five people
per day leaving Beaver Creek Lodge in one power boat. Coligan again
stated he has two registered, legally licensed power boat guides on
payroll. One of these guides made a total of $4,000 and the other made
$2,000 this year.
Coligan added, his is being run identically today as it was 15 years ago
when the property was purchased as an existing lodge. The system
works very well. Coligan referenced Richardson's comments regarding
the lot sizes and the distances of 100 feet and reported he owns property
that stretches for two to three acres and entails and covers much, much,
much more than 100 feet.
Coligan stated his reason for being at the meeting was to defend having
a legal guide at Beaver Creek Lodge. Coligan continued, he is there and
has been there since 1986. Coligan reported he operated without any
violations and feels they conduct a very good business.
Glick asked Coligan if he would have a problem if the number of guides
were limited to three. Coligan replied, he'd have absolutely no problem
since he has always operated only three guide boats.
Public hearing closed.
MAHURIN MOVED TO AMEND PZ98-45 BY ADDING THAT THERE BE
A LIMIT OF THREE GUIDES AND THAT THE OWNER PROVIDE
PROOF OF MEETING DEC REQUIREMENTS. MOTION SECONDED
BY WERNER-QUADE.
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Mahurin stated a precedence has been set by passing conditional use
permits that do limit the number of guides. Mahurin continued, under
the language of conditional use permits the issues of health and safety
to the public are discussed. Although Mahurin realizes that Planning
and Zoning has no authority over septic tanks, etc., in that area,
however, the Commission has a concern and all that is being asked is for
proof the owner is meeting the requirements of the law in regards to
DEC regulations. Mahurin encouraged the Commission to support the
amendment.
Werner-Quade stated in addition to Mahurin's comments it appeared
that on the 1995 conditional use permit application, the Commission
had actually required the owner to show that the waste water systems
did conform to DEC. Werner-Quade asked if that was ever submitted.
Kebschull pointed out that the 1995 permit was not approved.
Kebschull continued, the owner asked to modify the lodge to increase
the size of the building and it was denied. Had it been approved,
however, it would have been a requirement.
Graveley asked for clarification on the number of guides and asked if it
was for three guides for two docks. Mahurin replied, they are limiting
the number of guides to three for two docks.
Bryson asked if the intent of the motion regarding DEC was to require
the owner to provide proof of approval by DEC. Mahurin answered, yes.
Bryson stated there are situations where DEC approves waivers for given
situations which are commonly different for the bare criteria for specific
distances and felt it's reasonable to require a system that's approved by
DEC but not necessarily the specific criteria. Bryson continued, for
example, DEC may require 150 feet from a Class C well clearance but an
engineer may make the argument that 128 feet provides adequate
protection from the water supply and protects the ground water. They
then get a waiver approval based on that information.
Mahurin pointed out her motion strictly states that the owner would
provide proof of an approved DEC system. If there is a waiver, it would
mean it had been before DEC for approval. The intent was not to change
the criteria for DEC but was to have the owner provide proof that DEC
approved the system.
Nord stated there were two issues in the amendment which called for the
limit on the number of guides and the DEC approval. Nord stated
because of how the amendment is worded she would vote against the
amendment. Nord continued, if the issue was split she would be more
inclined to vote yes on one and no on the other.
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Mahurin stated she was willing split the items with the approval of the
second. Werner-Quade approved splitting the items in the motion.
Glick clarified there were two amendments then, one to limit the number
of guides, the other showing proof of DEC approval.
VOTE (Limit of Guide Boats)
GRAVELEY Yes
WERNER-QUADE Yes
NORD Yes
GLICK Yes
Motion passed unanimously.
VOTE (Proof of DEC approval)
BRYSON No
GOECKE Absent
MAHURIN Yes
GLICK No
2 Yes Votes, 4 No, Motion failed.
BRYSON Yes
GOECKE Absent
MAHURIN Yes
WERNER-QUADE Yes
NORD No
GRAVELEY No
Mahurin stated she was disappointed in the Commission's vote and felt
it necessary to make that statement prior to voting on the main motion.
Mahurin continued, so much time has been spent on conditional use
permits and Anglers Drive, hearing first hand from property owners who
have tides that flood their septics. All the motion was asking for was
proof of an approved system. Mahurin referenced Conditional Use
Permits, which states, "the proposed use will not be harmful to the
public safety, health, or welfare." Mahurin continued, she would vote
against the main motion.
VOTE (Main Motion)
WERNER-QUADE Yes GOECKE Absent
NORD Yes MAHURIN No
GRAVELEY Yes BRYSON Yes
GLICK Yes
Motion passed.
5. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Street Name Changes -- Discussion regarding changing post-
directional to pre-directionals, i.e, Willow Street North to North
Willow Street.
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Kebschull reported when the Borough sent a request to the City to
review street names to identify duplicates, etc., for the Enhanced 911
System they suggested that suffixes, prefixes, etc., be changed at the
same time. The Commission passed the street names, which were South
Willow Street, North Willow Street, etc. Sometime between the time they
were approved and when it went to Council, it was changed. This was
an error but Council passed an ordinance with the directionals as
suffixes. The Post Office has stated that people are not going to say
"Willow Street South," regardless of what the street sign says or what the
legal ordinance says and would continue to refer to the streets by their
prefixes. Kebschull continued, staff believed it was a good time to fix the
problem adding, this would not require any address changes. However,
it would require a public hearing and a resolution at the Planning and
Zoning stage and a public hearing at Council. Kebschull noted the cost
would be minimal as the City produces their own street signs. Staff is
aware of about 12 streets at this time and if it is decided to pursue this,
each street will be checked to make sure there aren't any other ones that
are affected.
The Commission agreed to go ahead with a public hearing. Kebschull
will schedule it and noted that it probably won't be until the second
meeting in October. This will allow staff the time to review all the
streets.
b. Title 14
Graveley pointed out a memo was provided to the Commissioners
regarding Title 14 and the need for changes. Graveley also pointed out
the purpose was not to rewrite Title 14 but to bring it into compliance.
Graveley continued, there are a lot of subtle items within Title 14 that
need to be addressed and possibly changed. Graveley stated the only
way he can see accomplishing the task is with work sessions. He urged
Commissioners to review the list he compiled and compare it to the Code
and some of the issues will be apparent. Graveley thanked Kebschull for
her help and gave her credit for the amount of work she has given him.
Smalley reiterated Council would be in support of joint work sessions
but they would not be held until after elections in October. Smalley
thought the work sessions would start sometime between October,
November, December or before the New Year.
6. OLD BUSINESS: -None
7. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS:
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a. 518 Pine -- Wee Folks Daycare -- Operating without a Home
Occupation Permit.
Kebschull reported the City had not heard anything from the operator
and the City Attorney sent a notice she had seven days to either apply
for a Home Occupation Permit or a Conditional Use Permit. If no
response is received then the City Attorney will file the appropriate
papers with the court to have her cease operation and/or be fined.
8. REPORTS
a. City Council
Councilman Smalley reported a meeting was held on September 16,
1998 and a copy of the agenda was included in the meeting packet.
Items C-1 through C-6 were passed with unanimous consent. The one
item that bought some discussion was item C-2, the ordinance to
appropriate $100,000 for the study for expansion and development of
the airport. Smalley reported the actual contract was not dealt with that
night as the individual the City will be working with was ill and he asked
the matter be postponed. There were also some additional modifications
to the contract. Smalley reiterated this is FAA money and can only be
used for airport needs.
Items 7 and 8 were passed unanimously.
Item H-3, the change to Vintage Pointe residency requirement was tabled
to the next meeting. Discussion is taking place changing the year
residency requirement to 30 days.
Smalley reported there is ongoing discussion within the City to bring
another retail outlet into town; specifically Sears.
The old Kenai Mall is being remodeled to house State offices. Smalley
reported there will still be a large portion of the building left vacant.
Smalley stated that he appreciated the Commission attending the work
session on September 21, 1998. Some good direction was given with
regard to the Historic District Board.
On behalf of the City Council, Smalley thanked Mahurin for her
diligence. Smalley added, they didn't always agree on issues but they
did agree to disagree. In any event, Mahurin was a fine addition to the
Planning and Zoning Commission and will be missed. Smalley wished
Mahurin well.
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b. Borough Planning
Bryson reported a meeting was held on September 14, 1998. The
consent agenda was approved as submitted.
Under public hearing items there was a petition to vacate a portion of a
seismograph trail in the plat that was originally filed by the Ninilchik
Native Association on the large tracts. The original plat was a paper plat
and was not surveyed. The argument at the time by that Association's
surveyor was the plat met the requirements of the State law providing
rights of way and these were provided by seismograph trails that were
dedicated. By the nature of seismograph trails they come through at
angles and they're not aligned northerly and easterly. The applicant was
petitioning to eliminate a seismograph trail that goes through one of the
lots and realigns it around a nominally square tract. This situation
would occur on many of those tracts. There were numerous individuals
who protested the petition and as a result, the item was postponed to
the Borough's second October meeting pending discussion between
interested groups.
The second item was a petition to vacate a portion of a public right of
way in Bayview Gardens. This was approved. There were several
options available.
Item 3 was a petition to vacate. public recreational use. Bryson
explained, this was a requirement on the face of the plat and it was felt it
had to be eliminated. This is the site of the new hospital improvements
that are going in Homer. This was passed unanimously.
Item 4 was a petition to reclassify 23.3 acres of land along the west side
of Kalifornsky Beach Road. This is the Old Village and includes the old
cemetery and it is proposed to be transferred to the Native Association.
They've indicated that it will be managed in an appropriate way for the
property.
Item 5 would delegate to the City of Seldovia the power to provide zoning
regulations and was recommended to be approved.
The remaining items were approved and consisted of minor building
setbacks. There were 25 plats to come before the Plat Committee,
however due to the magnitude of the review, they were moved to another
day.
c. Admiaistration
Kebschull apologized the Borough report was not copied accurately and
asked members to give her a call should they want a complete copy.
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9. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED:
Mark Schrag, 312 Princess, Kenai, Alaska stated he didn't understand what
changed with the passage of the conditional use permit code and wanted to
know how that would tighten things up. Schrag demanded examples be given
as he wanted to know how it would affect those items that were changed
recently. Schrag pointed out there was a legal opinion by a lawyer that said it
was a bad way to go and that it was going to make it easier. Glick responded
the amendment would not make it easier to get a conditional use permit, but
would simply make it easier to understand and bring it more in compliance
with what was done in the Land Use Table because of the conflicts there.
Kebschull added staff's concerns were those that were voiced about the
inconsistency with regard to principal uses and that would not allow
conditional uses in those zones. This was not the intent of the Land Use Table
so staff wanted clarification. Additionally, staff wanted it to be more specific as
to the requirements for an application such as Item 2, "verification by the
owner of property concerned if other than applicant." Kebschull stated the City
had just been doing that, however it was not required in the code. Anyone
could come in and apply for a conditional use permit even if they weren't the
owner of the property. The amendment allows the individual to be the owner or
provide proof. Kebschull reiterated, neither the application process nor the
review is any easier. It just clears things up.
Schrag stated that was a different interpretation because to him a barrier was
taken away. Schrag also stated that was the crux of the whole problem. He
continued, the reason there was so much dissent or disagreement was because
the two plans, the intent of the zone and the Comprehensive Plan, aren't close
enough together. Schrag wanted to know which one would take precedence.
Schrag added, he didn't understand the DEC vote as they were just asking the
applicant to do compliance to something that is already out there. Schrag
continued, it seemed pretty simple to him since it wasn't asking for anything
new; just asking for compliance for what is there. Schrag added, the
Commission says come to us with your input and the reason people eventually
don't come with input is because the Commission has to listen at some point.
Schrag stated his neighborhood came to the Commission with 90% and they
weren't listened to and it gets discouraging. Schrag reiterated that they had 30
people there and the Commission blew them off and that's why they are
discouraged.
10. INFORMATION ITEMS:
a. Memo to City Clerk regarding September 21, 1998 Work Session
Agenda.
b. Letter to Karen Mahurin dated September 17, 1998.
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11. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS:
Commissioner Werner-Quade stated Mahurin will be sorely missed as she was
one who has had considerable input to the Commission and often her
comments were so needed and necessary.
Werner-Quade stated that Mr. Coligan needed to amend his CUP in order to
come into compliance as he had been guiding without the Commission's
permission and the limit of three guides is appropriate. She added, that's why
she voted to amended the CUP. Werner-Quade continued, she is saddened
that fellow Commissioners do not believe that environmental concerns in the
immediate area do not warrant a more in-depth search. When the
Commission, as a body, turn a blind eye to the possible and probable pollution
of one their finest resources, it was her opinion the Commission appeared
draconian and in serious error.
Commissioner Graveley asked Councilman Smalley how firm Council was on
the reformatting of the Code. Smalley replied, the process begins with Planning
and Zoning but didn't think that Council would be in objection. Smalley
continued, as the City grows they find there are other areas of the Code where
there are either conflicts or it's outdated.
Graveley stated he wasn't concerned with the content of the code but how it is
formatted or its layout. Smalley reiterated there shouldn't be any objection to
looking at a reformatting. Graveley stated he understood this is already being
done. Smalley thought that it is being done by staff. Kebschull responded
Council appropriated funds to have the Code revised and reformatted by an
outside company. Kebschull added, the work is currently being done and what
Graveley is questioning is whether a new format for the code has been chosen
and whether or not it's been reviewed by Council. Smalley said it hadn't been
reviewed it was just brought to Council's attention by the City Attorney that the
process is beginning. Smalley reiterated there won't be any changes just a
reformatting. Kebschull noted the new format would be a two column layout.
Graveley asked that Council grant the Planning and Zoning Commission the
opportunity to review and/or comment on the new format and/or other formats
before approval is made. Graveley noted that he didn't care for the new format
as it's not a whole lot different from the current code and isn't conducive to the
business. Smalley stated, again council would rely on the administrative input
they receive in making that decision. Smalley would make that request to
Council.
Commissioner Nord referenced the amendment to the conditional use permit
that came before the Commission. She added, it was her understanding this
amendment was strictly to allow for a guiding business and had nothing to do
with DEC. That is why she voted against the DEC item. The other reason was,
being a Realtor, she was aware of some of the requirements of DEC and the
two-acre lot was at least 200 feet wide and 400 feet deep and there certainly
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was a way that this gentlemen could get his separation distance. Additionally,
as Bryson pointed out, even if he could not, DEC could make a determination
and provide a waiver for the situation. Nord continued, the Commission had
just heard testimony that it may not be in compliance with DEC but that does
not mean that they would not meet the requirements of DEC. Nord added, the
Commission is not a policing body and cannot tell somebody they must be in
compliance with another body and that was another reason she voted against
the DEC requirement.
Nord encouraged City Council to schedule the work session on Title 14 as soon
as possible.
Commissioner Bryson explained, the action taken on the conditional use
permits effectively makes recommendation to Council. There will be hearings
at the Council level before it's adopted. Bryson encouraged those who feel
strongly about it to attend the meeting.
Commissioner Mahurin stated she leaves with sadness as she enjoyed her
time with Planning and Zoning. Mahurin thanked everyone for the time they
give and even though it can be a thankless job and a lot of time is spent soul-
searching and researching and the Commission does a tremendous amount of
work, she just wanted everyone to know she appreciates the job. Mahurin
continued, on a personal level the Commission has indulged her and her sense
of humor and put up with her and she appreciates that too as she looks at
everyone as friends and as Smalley said, they don't always agree but agree to
disagree.
Mahurin expressed her appreciation to Kebschull and Roper. Kebschull has
been a tremendous help. Mahurin stated she hated to lose Roper but she
understood she's going to greener pastures.
Mahurin hoped the public would continue their input as it is easy to get
disenchanted with what is perceived as government. However, Mahurin stated
she believes in the process and it works and she encouraged the public to keep
following by making sure there are people put into place that would also follow
the process. Mahurin encouraged the public to keep coming to the public
hearings and noted she will too as she is a property owner and resident in
Kenai.
Chairman Glick stated the Commission will miss Mahurin as she brought up a
lot of good issues that personally made him think a lot of times about what was
going on and sometimes he changed his mind.
Commissioner Bryson asked Roper if this was going to be her last meeting.
Roper replied that it was. Bryson thanked Roper for the work noting it was
appreciated. Glick also stated that the Commission appreciated the work.
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Councilman Smalley, on behalf of the City Council, thanked Roper for the
services and the efforts.
12. ADJOURNMENT:
MAHURIN MOVED TO ADJOURN. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 8:20 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Barbara Roper, C n act Secretary
Planning 8v Zoning Commission
September 23, 1998
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