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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-07-09 P&Z Minutes4 ` CITY OF KENAI PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION j ~~ * *AGENDA* KENAI CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS July 9, 1997 - 7:00 p.m. http://www . Kenai.net/city 1. ROLL CALL: 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: June 25, 1997 4. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD: a. Leo Oberts 5. CONSIDERATION OF PLATS: 6. PUBLIC HEARINGS: 7. NEW BUSINESS: a. PZ97-35-Landscape/Site Plan Review-Allan J. Norville, Tract B-2 Cook Inlet j Industrial Air Park, 10672 Kenai Spur Highway 8. OLD BUSINESS: 9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS: 10. REPORTS: a. City Council b. Borough Planning c. Administration 11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED: 12. INFORMATION ITEMS: a. KPB Notice of Planning Commission Action of June 23, 1997 b. Commission Roster 13. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS: 14. ADJOURNMENT: Agenda July 9.doc CITY OF KENAI PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION July 9,1997 Chairman: Carl Glick *** MINUTES *** 1. CALL TO ORDER & ROLL CALL: Chairman Glick called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Members Present: Carl Glick, Teresa Werner-Quade, Barb Nord, Ron Goecke, Phil Bryson, Members Absent: Karen Mahurin, Michael Christian Others Present: Administrative Assistant Marilyn Kebschull, Councilman Duane Bannock, Contract Secretary Barbara Roper 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA: GOECKE RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED AND ASKED FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY BARB NORD. AGENDA WAS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT. 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: WERNER-QUADE MOVED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JUNE 25,1997 AND ASKED FOR UNANIMOUS CONSENT. GOECKE SECONDED THE MOTION. THE MINUTES FOR JUNE 25,1997 WERE APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT. 4. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD: a. Leo Oberts: No show 5. CONSIDERATION OF PLATS: None PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES JULY 9, 1997 PAGE 2 6. PUBLIC HEARINGS: None 7. NEW BUSINESS: b. PZ97-35 -Landscape/Site Plan Review: GOECKE MOVED TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF PZ97-35, LANDSCAPE/SITE PLAN REVIEW FOR MR. ALLAN J. NORVILLE. MOTION WAS SECONDED BY WERNER-QUADE. Staff had no additional comments on PZ97-35. Bryson wanted to go on record to say that he will be abstaining due to conflict of interest. Goecke asked Mr. Allan Norville to come up and explain what he would be doing. Mr. Allan Norville, 301 Riverside Drive, Soldotna, Alaska, stated that they propose to build a new 16,000 sq. ft. building immediately west of K-Mart and Carrs and one of the prerequisites is a landscaping plan. He noted that they covered approximately 7% of the area and code requires 5%. Mr. Norville felt that it should be mentioned that the property will become part of the Carr's Center and they have over-landscaped so it should be included in the whole area. Mr. Norville clarified the exact location as being part of the Dairy Queen property. Glick asked for additional comments and/or questions. Kebschull pointed out that one item that was not addressed was snow removal and stated Code requires that it be addressed. Glick asked Mr. Norville what his plans were for snow removal. Mr. Norville stated that if there is a very heavy snow then it would have to be carried off but temporarily they would store the snow on the pads, when the pads are developed then the snow would have to be hauled away. No other comments andlor questions were provided. VOTE: Werner-Quade Yes Goecke Yes Nord Yes Mahurin Absent Christian Absent Bryson Abstain Glick Yes MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. 8. OLD BUSINESS: None PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES JULY 9, 1997 PAGE 3 9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS: None 10. REPORTS: a. City Council: Councilman Duane Bannock stated that a copy of the July 2 agenda was included in the Planning and Zoning packets and he wanted to briefly review a couple of items. The first being Public Scheduled Comment, Mr. Ron Petterson representing the Kenaitze Indian Tribe was present and discussed their Resolution opposing further development of the Municipal Park on Forest Drive in Kenai, Alaska. Mr. Petterson shared some concerns that they had for the handicap-accessible park that the Lions Club is putting together at the south end of Municipal Park. Councilman Bannock stated that the Kenaitze Indian Tribe is working in conjunction with Parks & Rec Director, Bob Frates on the sensitive areas. What they would like to see is some type of interpretive park made at the sites that they have identified. This issue was remanded to Parks &Rec. Councilman Bannock stated that Parks &Rec. is also looking at another plan for that same park. Councilman Bannock went on the Public Hearings on the Agenda and stated that Item 1, Increasing Estimated Revenues and Appropriations by $2.75 million dollars, was pulled. It was going out to bid for a portion of the Alaska Regional Fire Fighting Project. This Ordinance will come back but it will be a lot more because they are going to bring it back in conjunction with the industrial side of the fire fighting project. This will be bid out as one complete project. Councilman Bannock stated that the next item was the Animal Shelter and $664,350 was appropriated to that capital project. Councilman Bannock stated that little over $600,000 of that was going to Blazy Construction as they were the low bidder of the project. Item #3 under Public Hearings, Replacing the Current Kenai Municipal Code Land Use Table, Councilman Bannock stated that this came directly from the Planning and Zoning group and it was tabled because they wanted to wait for Councilman Smalley who had been very active in the development of this particular ordinance. Councilman Bannock stated that the City had received a very interesting letter from the Department of the Army which had to do with a brief study that had been done with regards to the bluff erosion situation. The Army said there is clear Federal interest in erosion control in the city owned shoreline near the Senior Center. Their idea of protecting the 1,510 feet portion of bluff would be approximately $3 million dollars. PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES JULY 9, 1997 PAGE 4 Councilman Bannock stated a feasibility study would have to be done on a 50/50 basis and then the cost, if the Corp was to participate in it, would be on a 60/40 type of thing. The City probably won't take them up on that offer. b. Borough Planning: Bryson stated there were no meetings since the last Planning & Zoning meeting, therefore, had nothing to report. c. Administration: Kebschull stated that the Notice to Proceed on the Taxiway C Project was issued today to CIC so they should be in working on that tomorrow. Kebschull stated that, as Mr. Bannock said, the ARFF project is going to be re-advertised and it will include both site development and the building, it will be advertised beginning July 14. The plans will be available on July 18. The bid opening is possibly scheduled for the end of the month. Kebschull stated that if everything goes as planned, the site work will be done this fall and the building in the spring. Kebschull stated that the other thing staff is doing is reviewing and revising the land development requirements. This work is being done based on the work sessions and the comments/concerns from those sessions. Jack LaShot, Bob Springer and Marilyn Kebschull is looking at it and when complete, will bring it back to the Commission for comment and review as there were a lot of blanks and things that were not clear during the work session meetings. 11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED: None 12. INFORMATION ITEMS: a. KPB Notice of Planning Commission Action of June 23, 1997 b. Commission Roster -Glick stated that the Commission appreciates having this roster. 13. COMMISSION COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS: Bryson stated that he had the misfortune of being at the Council meeting three weeks ago in which the Planning and Zoning Commission were severely criticized for action they had taken, or not taken. Bryson further stated that he didn't mind being criticized occasionally if there is due cause, either individually or as a group, but he does mind being ripped by Council who they do the trench work for. Bryson stated that they handle ~~ PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES JULY 9, 1997 PAGE 5 a lots of dirty work here that takes a decision and he expects the Council to realize that. Bryson also felt that the Planning Commission had the best interest of the City at heart when they requested additional information be required from the Townsite Historic Zone and at the time he felt it was appropriate. Bryson pointed out that he was very much dismayed by the comment. Werner-Quade: No Comment Nord stated, regarding the minutes of that particular meeting that Mr. Bryson was talking about, she felt pretty much the same way and that they are here doing a public service and aren't paid and are doing the best job that they can. She further stated that they did have a Councilman here at that particular time and everybody relayed to him why they felt the way they did. She was not sure if that was relayed at the Council meeting or not but she was a little disappointed in the comments made. Nord stated that she would like to make a comment regarding the amount of money awarded to the Associates for the animal control shelter, she was curious as to how much of the money went towards the 14 pages on how to plant grass. Councilman Bannock stated that he couldn't tell her but that $19,220 was the amount that went to Mr. Kluge but he couldn't tell her anymore with regard to the breakdown. Glick asked if Councilman Bannock noticed how much effort went into how to plant grass. Councilman Bannock stated that he did notice. Goecke stated, as everyone on this Commission is well aware, he has never been a strong opponent to a dog house in this town that is worth more than all but one residential home in this city. He further stated that at one point in time, in fact the last number that he had heard, was they now had that animal control dog house just under $500,000 and now it's back up in excess of $600,000. Goecke stated that to him this whole thing is just purely ludicrous. He further stated that at some point in time somebody needs to stand up and say hey, are our dogs and cats worth more than our tax payers. Councilman Bannock asked Chairman Glick if he could respond to the comments made regarding the Council meeting of three weeks ago. Chairman Glick gave permission. Councilman Bannock stated that, first of all, he read the Planning and Zoning Commission minutes and apologized that he was not at that meeting, he left early but would have addressed the concerns right then. Councilman Bannock stated that he will apologize if he came across as rude, unprofessional, or ungentlemanly, but he will stand by his remarks in regards to the actions taken by this Board. He further stated that he was very, very clear in what his problem was and that was a fear that he addressed over 4 PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES JULY 9, 1997 PAGE 6 years ago at the formation of the Townsite Historic Board. Councilman Bannock stated that he won't even go down the road of the volunteer versus the pay thing because he doesn't feel it's even worth a discussion but he does feel that it wasn't a judgement call that was made, because the Board is here to make a judgement call, and clearly there are times when he won't agree with the judgement call made, and there are times when the Council won't agree, and there are times when the Council will overturn a judgement call. He did not feel that was the issue, what was at issue was the fact that they took a project that was ready for approval at this level and remanded it to another Board and that's where Councilman Bannock still feels that this Board was wrong, he will stand by those comments. Councilman Bannock addressed Ms. Nord and stated that her comment was interesting because she was one Commissioner that voted to proceed that evening and he felt that was the right decision. He also said to vote it down would have been a prerogative had she not felt comfortable with the permit and perhaps he may not have agreed with that decision, or perhaps he may have agreed with that decision, but he does feel that was the decision that this Board should have been willing and ready to make that night. Again, Councilman Bannock stated that he would apologize. The minutes are correct, he won't blame Ms. Freas for making anything that wasn't and Mr. Bryson was indeed in the audience that night so he feels that Mr. Bryson would say the minutes are an accurate portrayal. Councilman Bannock again apologized if he was rude, unprofessional, and ungentlemanly, because that would be uncalled for but he would stand firmly by his position. Chairman Glick stated that he was not going to say anything but this Board did have information that night and could have acted but to send it to another committee for further information he didn't feel was a problem. He said that if they were just doing it to get it off their backs would be one thing but to get input from another Board was the reason he did it. Glick stated that they did get their input. Glick again stated that he didn't think there was anything wrong with asking for more input in some cases. Glick told Councilman Bannock that they do disagree on that. Councilman Bannock stated that yes, that was true, they disagree on the subject. 14. ADJOURNMENT: GOECKE MOVED TO ADJOURN. The meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m. Respectfully submitted, ~l~'.~~ Barbara Roper