HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-12-27 P&Z MinutesCITY OF KENAI
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
**AGENDA**
Council Chambers, 210 Fidalgo
December 27, 1995, 7:00 p.m.
Chairman Kevin Walker
1. ROLL CALL:
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 13, 1995
4. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD:
5. PLANNING:
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
a. PZ95-61-Variance Permit for Signage-Seventh Day Adventist Church
7. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Special Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting
8. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Tidelands Lease Application
9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS:
10. REPORTS:
a. City Council
b. Borough Planning
c. Administration
11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED:
12. INFORMATION ITEMS:
a. KPB Planning Commission Action from December 11, 1995 meeting
b. National Flood Insurance Memo to Council
c. Term Letters
d. Meeting Calendar & Deadlines for 1996
e. Town Meeting Memo
13. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS:
14. ADJOURNMENT:
UNAPPROVED
CITY OF KENAI
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 27, 1995
MINUTES
1. ROLL CALL:
Members Present: Carl Glick, Phil Bryson, Kevin Walker, John Booth, Karen
Mahurin
Members Absent: Teresa Werner-Quade, Ron Goecke
Others Present: Councilman Hal Smalley, City Engineer Jack La Shot,
Administrative Assistant Marilyn Kebschull, James
Grizzell, and other unidentified citizens
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA:
PHIL BRYSON MOVED FOR APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA AND
REQUESTED UNANIMOUS CONSENT. CARL CLICK SECONDED THE
MOTION. AGENDA APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS CONSENT.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: December 13, 1995
Chairman Walker asked that approval of the minutes of December 13, 1995 be
postponed to the next meeting as pages appeared to be missing in the copies supplied
in the packet. Walker asked if anyone opposed. No one opposed. Minutes to be on
next agenda.
4. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD:
5. PLANNING:
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
a. PZ95-61-Variance Permit for Signage-Seventh Day Adventist Church
CARL CLICK MOVED FOR APPROVAL OF PZ95-61. MOTION SECONDED
BY KAREN MAHURIN.
Chairman Walker asked for staff comment. Jack La Shot stated that the only
additional comment is that this sign is similar in size to one that was existing prior to
the Spur Highway project. That sign was non-conforming and since it was removed,
the code says you cannot replace anon-conforming sign. That is why the church is
requesting a variance permit.
Chairman Walker opened public hearing. Mr. Grizzell stated the church would like to
have the variance approved noting that the sign that was taken down was the same
size as they one they are requesting to put up. Mr. Grizzell noted that this sign would
be lighted but that the other sign had also had lighting.
Chairman Walker brought item back to the Commission for discussion. Karen
Mahurin asked if this was a different sign than the sign that was taken down or if this
is the exact sign and they are just asking permission to put the sign back up. Mr.
Grizzell stated it is a different sign but it is the same size. Grizzell noted the old sign
was eight foot wide by ten foot high and the new sign will be eight foot high by ten feet
long, it will be turned sideways. Mahurin asked why the church wanted a sign that
large. The pastor of the church responded for visibility so that people driving by can
see it. He noted that when he first became the pastor that he missed the church
several times because he did not see the sign. He continued noting it is a nice sign
and an improvement and that the church would like to be recognized.
Chairman Walker asked how far a distance from the road the new sign would be
placed. Mr. Grizzell estimated it would be 30 to 35 feet from the actual road bed and
8 to 12 feet behind the property line. Grizzell added that in no way would the sign
obstruct any view for traffic traveling either way. Walker noted that would be his
concern to make sure that the sign did not in any way obstruct traffic. Grizzell added
that the bottom of the sign would be approximately four and a half or five feet off the
ground.
John Booth stated he seemed to recall reading in the code required that the sign be
placed by the city building official. Booth noted he thought that was under section
180. Walker asked if La Shot had a copy of the code. Booth stated that section 180 is
the variance code and section 220 the sign code. Booth read under paragraph 7, "The
building official shall determine the area of all signs and classify all signs." Booth
noted that this may not describe who will place the sign. Booth noted he was
incorrect.
Walker asked for further discussion or comments. Phil Bryson noted he had contact
with the city office concerning interpretation of the area and was told that these signs
are not specifically addressed in the code as most items are not. And, administration
was interpreting this as being an 80 foot sign with two faces. That was the same area
as the prior sign. Bryson stated he will be supporting this permit.
Karen Mahurin stated she will be voting no because she believes there is a sign
ordinance for a specific reason. Mahurin noted that if it were the same sign that was
taken down she would view it differently but she has a problem with the fact that they
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are reconstructing a sign with new dimensions. The ordinance does not allow the sign
~ to be put back up. The difference between 32 square feet and 80 square feet is
significant. Mahurin reiterated that she would not be supporting this permit.
Mr. Grizzell commented that the sign was the same size as the original sign; however,
it would be laid on it's side.
Chairman Walker stated he understands and shares Commissioner Mahurin's
concerns. Walker stated his concern is with the code as it is written and as the code
has not been adapted to provide for signage along the Spur Highway in this particular
zone. Walker stated he still has a major concern with the amount of setback as it is
approximately 30 feet from the highway. Walker stated if it were a greater distance
from the highway he would probably support it.
Jack La Shot stated that as far as visibility the sign is behind the property line and
noted that he estimates a full car length between the property line and the sign. La
Shot noted he doesn't think visibility will be a problem.
Phil Bryson noted two items concerning the setback. Bryson stated he doesn't know
what side of the center line of right of way the highway is being constructed to noting
he suspects it is not the center of the right of way and it may be to the south. Bryson
stated it is approximately 80 feet from the sign to the edge of the driven surface and
he didn't feel a four by eight sign would be adequate to be seen from that distance nor
could it be read.
VOTE:
GLICK YES BRYSON YES
BOOTH YES MAHURIN NO
WALKER YES
MOTION PASSED.
7. NEW BUSINESS:
a. Special Planning & Zoning Commission Meeting
Chairman Walker stated the question before the Commission is, "Will the Planning &
Zoning Commission approve the scheduling of a special Planning & Zoning
Commission meeting for January 16, 1996?" Bryson stated that will be a busy week
but scheduling the meeting would be okay with him. Mahurin asked if the meeting
would be at 7 p.m. and Walker advised yes. Chairman Walker questioned if there
would be a conflict with the use of the council chambers. Councilman Smalley stated
he did not believe there was a conflict but Ms. Kebschull could verify that with the city
clerk. Smalley commented that this item had came up at council and that council was
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going to first of all request that the Planning & Zoning Commission change their
meeting to that night. Smalley stated he had commented that he didn't think that
would be a good idea and after further discussion the special meeting was discussed.
Smalley noted that when the discussion took place the rest of the council was present
and they are members of other boards and commissions and no conflicts were noted.
Walker noted that if a conflict arises that perhaps the meeting could be held in the
library conference room.
Meeting scheduled for January 16, 1996 at 7 p.m.
8. OLD BUSINESS:
a. Tidelands Lease Application
Ms. Mahurin asked Chairman Walker if he wished to deal with each lease separately
or as a group. Walker noted that would be up to the maker of the motion. Walker
noted that the business was entitled "Tidelands Lease Application." Walker advised
Ms. Mahurin before answering her question he would like to ask administration to
explain the question on the back of the packet information.
Jack La Shot noted that the report from Kim Howard explains the situation and that
the only question before the commission tonight is if the use falls within that
permitted under the zoning ordinance for anon-zone in Kenai. La Shot noted this has
historically been fished for years and years. La Shot added his personal opinion is
that the use does fall with that permitted in a non-zone and a similar use as allowed
by other agencies. La Shot stated that the Commission did not have to discuss who
may be leased the land, that would be up to council.
Chairman Walker asked Ms. Mahurin if her question was to deal with these
separately or together. Walker asked if she wished to deal with them together and
Ms. Mahurin responded yes.
KAREN MAHURIN MOVED FOR APPROVAL OF THE INTENDED USE OF
THE PERMITS UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE. MOTION SECONDED
BY PHIL BRYSON.
Walker asked if there were any further staff comments. None noted.
Walker asked if anyone in the public wished to speak to the item. None noted.
Phil Bryson reiterated La Shot's statement that the code is essentially silent in the
area requested for leasing and also the proposed use is one that has been traditional
for many years in that area. Bryson stated he will be supporting the motion as he
feels it is appropriate.
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~ Walker stated he had one comment noting he does not like the formula the city
utilizes for the lease applications in these areas, he does fully support this particular
use of this property. Walker added that he felt it was in the correct zone and he will
be supporting the motion.
VOTE:
BRYSON YES BOOTH YES
MAHURIN YES GLICK YES
WALKER YES
MOTION PASSED.
9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS:
10. REPORTS:
a. City Council
Councilman Smalley noted that the Commissioners had a copy of the agenda in their
packets with notations on it. Smalley stated that he had a report from the library
showing 12,811 actual, active card users. The library has over 14,000 cards out.
October use of the library itself was 7,368 and November was 6,014. Walker asked if
these are different users or repeats? Smalley stated that all were different and he had
a copy of the report showing where the users reside, etc. (Report given to Walker.)
Walker asked if Smalley happened to know how many square feet the library is?
Smalley asked La Shot who stated he thought around 17,000 but noted he was
guessing.
Smalley reported that James McCubbins a student from Kenai Central High had
spoke to the council. He is working on his Eagle Scout project. This was going to be
done a couple years ago and then was postponed. The council is going to assist with
an amount not to exceed $1,000 for a sign on the north end of town.
Dick Hultberg spoke to council on whether the city had ordinances concerning the
placement of advertisement flyers on windshields in parking lots, etc. A great deal of
garbage results from these flyers. Smalley reported that the administration will be
recommending an ordinance before too long dealing with this type of advertisement.
Under resolutions, Items 3, 4, & 5 were tabled. Item 3 was tabled because it was felt
that the city would have been making electrical outlets available for some of the
employees at the airport at city expense when in fact there are some electrical outlets
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at other parts of the airport terminal for airport employees at lessee expense. The city
did not want to create a situation of supplying a service to some employees at city
expense. Smalley reported that there will be power in the shelter being built for the
airport manager and other city employees. Resolution 95-80 dealt with the highway
project and it was tabled for a rewrite. The project list sent by the state identified a
lot of different highway projects that are ongoing as Kenai projects when in fact they
are from other areas on the Kenai Peninsula. Smalley stated the Keith Kornelis will
be contacting the state and properly identifying the locations of these areas. In
addition, regarding the prioritization of the projects, resolutions will be developed
requesting several projects be given priority number one. Smalley gave an example of
the pedestrian/bike trail being a priority one and yet the widening of the road is listed
as a priority three.
The fish initiative was tabled and will be brought back on the 17th. Smalley stated
there was a concern about the proper allocation of the fisheries and the document will
be rewritten.
Councilman Smalley noted that under New Business, Item 5, Alaska Municipal
League membership dues had just about doubled and had risen from around $900 to
almost $1900. Smalley added that this is a phase and when it reaches full
development it may cost as much as $6600 and is not sure that the council will be
willing to pay that amount.
The Department of Health & Social Services Health Center lease was approved.
Smalley noted that the city will be encouraging DHSS to develop other space for the
Health Center. The center has 1147 square feet leased.
Council held a discussion about policy change for use of Leif Hanson Memorial Park.
Smalley stated that administration is to develop a new policy for types of events that
should be held at the park. If food is served, those functions may be held at the park
strip corridor at the ball park. Smalley noted the concern being that some past
functions have had a large number of people with children who climb on the memorial
plantings, trash, etc.
Councilman Smalley advised that the council chose not to act on participation in the
National Flood Insurance. Discussion by the council concerned Item 1.4 which talked
about potential restrictions on development along the river corridor. Council also
passed a resolution regarding Anglers Acres for the state to help stabilize the banks in
that area. Smalley added that during discussion of the flood damage it was stated
that damage was more a result of erosion than from the flood itself. Chairman Walker
asked Smalley to explain this. Smalley stated that the reimbursement for damages
that the city had applied for through FEMA were the result of erosion. The damage on
private property in Anglers Acres was probably a combination of erosion and flood.
Smalley explained that when the water was high it eroded the bank itself and the
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bank dropped off. Smalley added that the flooding of the river occurred more on the
upper river. La Shot added that the flood had accelerated the natural erosion.
b. Borough Planning
Phil Bryson advised that the Borough Planning Commission had not met since his last
report.
c. Administration
Jack La Shot commented that the newspaper article regarding the Spur Highway
project had been misleading and that the current project will be completed. La Shot
added that some other projects have had their prioritization changed.
11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED:
12. INFORMATION ITEMS:
a. KPB Planning Commission Action from December 11, 1995
Phil Bryson explained that this was a situation wherein the plat had not been filed
and the surveyor requested additional time to file.
Jack La Shot noted that the city routinely receives these reports from the borough and
in the future they will be included in the packets to advise the Commission of borough
action.
Bryson added that the borough approves all plats for one year and for that for
approval to stay valid an extension must be requested. Bryson noted that unless there
has been some major change in the right of way in the area or a need for a change,
they are commonly approved for an extension.
a. National Flood Insurance Memo to Council
b. Term Letters
Chairman Walker encouraged Commissioners to contact the City Clerk with their
response to the clerk's letter.
a. Meeting Calendar & Deadlines for 1996
b. Town Meeting Memo
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13. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS:
Ms. Mahurin stated she would urge that the council be prudent in supporting
resolutions for commercial or sport fisheries. Mahurin stated she felt the city should
remain impartial. Regarding the Leif Hanson Park, Mahurin stated that the Kenai
River Festival, which was a large group, was a wonderful use of the area. There was
food and the next day the park was clean. Mahurin stated she would urge the city to
look very carefully before amending policy as to who would be allowed to use the park.
Smalley noted there is a statement in the policy that the administration may approve
activities at the park.
Chairman Walker asked that prior to the next meeting that the P.A. system be
repaired. Walker noted there is a high frequency noise that is very disturbing.
14. ADJOURNMENT:
CARL GLICK MOVED FOR ADJOURMENT. MEETING ADJOURNED AT
APPROXIMATELY 7:45 P.M.
Resp ctfu y Submitted:
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Marilyn Kebschull
Administrative Assistant
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