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RENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
October 28, 1992 - 7:00 P.M.
City Hall Council Chambers
Chairman Art Graveley
AGENDA
1. ROLL CALL
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - October 14, 1992
4. PLANNING
a. Development in Old Town - Demolition of Juliussen House
5. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
6. PUBLIC HEARINGS
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Reschedule November 11th Meeting
8. OLD
a.
9 . CO1
a.
b.
c.
BUSINESS
Resolution PZ 92-26: Rezone - See
~E ENFORCEMENT ITEMS
Quandt Property (Oral report)
NOAA Installation on Marathon Road
Letter to Fandel's
10. REPORTS
a. City Council
b. Borough Planning
c. Townsite Historic Task Force
d. City Administration
11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED
12. INFORMATION ITEMS
1. City Council Agenda
2. KPB Planning Commission Agenda
13_. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
14. ADJOURNMENT
****Work Session with Council - Sign Ordinance****
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RENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
October 28, 1992 - 7:00 P.M.
City Hall Council Chambers
Chairman Art Graveley
MINUTES
ITEM 1. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Commissioners Present: Duane Bannock, Phil Bryson, Carl Glick,
Art Graveley, Ron Goecke, Kathy Scott,
Paul Hanson
Council Representative: Hal Smalley
Also Present: Cary Graves, City Attorney; Jack La Shot,
City Engineer; Loretta Harvey,
Administrative Assistant
ITEM 2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
The following additions were made to the agenda:
9 a. Letter to State, October 27, 1992 from Jack La Shot,
State action regarding this property.
9 b. Additional memo from Cary Graves, regarding NOAA
facility.
Hanson mentioned the date should be changed to the 28th.
MOTION:
Scott MOVED approval of agenda as amended. Hanson SECONDED.
Graveley asked for unanimous consent. There were no objections.
SO ORDERED.
ITEM 3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - October 14, 1992
MOTION:
Bryson MOVED approval of minutes as presented. Scott SECONDED.
Graveley asked for unanimous consent. There were no objections.
SO ORDERED.
ITEM 4. PLANNING
a. Development in Old Town - Demolition of Juliussen House
Graveley introduced the item, reminding the Commission that a
permit had been issued to move this building. But this present
application indicated that the building could not be moved.
Graveley asked La Shot for additional information or a
recommendation.
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La Shot said he would recommend issuing a building permit to
demolish the building. That is why the Commission is reviewing
this. According to the TSH Code all activities requiring a
building permit must be reviewed by Planning and Zoning.
MOTION:
Bryson MOVED to approve the issuance of a building permit. Glick
SECONDED.
Graveley opened issue up for discussion.
Coral Seymour, representative for the Oiler's, explained that the
building to be demolished is right behind the Oiler's Hall, which
the Oiler's are in the process of trying to buy. The building
presently sets on the man's property who owns the little red
building next to it. In order to get the deal closed, the building
must be demolished. It is a fire trap and there is no foundation
so it can't be moved.
Graveley, are the Oiler's as a group applying for the permit?
} Seymour, Paul Wilson in Anchorage wants it done, he filled out the
application and sent it from Anchorage.
Wayne Dunworth, Oiler representative, reported they are trying to
buy the building which sets partially on Clarence Ladd's property.
Ladd will not sign off on the deal until the Oiler's trade for a
piece of property and demolish the building. He says it's a fire
trap and threatens his building.
Graveley noted pictures which the representatives had presented.
Hanson asked if they saw any historical significance to the
building?
Seymour, not the way it is. It's dangerous, steps are broken, the
floor has holes in it. As far as historical its not hewn logs or
anything, it's just a dilapidated shack.
Graveley asked if there was a record of when this house was built.
Glick reported that in 1962 he came to Kenai, that building was
fairly new then.
Dunworth said the building has been vacant for about ten years.
All the windows have been broken and boarded up.
Scott said she was not really clear on who owns the building and
who has the right to demolish it?
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Dunworth, Mr. Paul Wilson, we've been renting from him. He owns
that whole corner except Ladd's little red building. He filled out
the application and sent it back, for Dunworth to turn in.
Graveley asked for further discussion from Commissioners. Bryson
called for the question.
VOTE:
Bannock: Yes Glick: Yes Graveley: Yes
Goecke: Yes Scott: Yes Bryson: Yes
Hanson: Yes
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY. SO ORDERED.
Graveley informed the Oiler representatives that they could receive
a building permit for the demolition of the building.
ITEM 5. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
None.
ITEM 6. PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
ITEM 7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Reschedule November 11th Meeting
The meeting was rescheduled for November 10th.
ITEM 8. OLD BUSINESS
a. Resolution PZ 92-26: Rezone - See
Scott reminded the Commission that they had decided to table this
item for up to one year.
Graveley thought the item should be carried on the Agenda for one
year from the date of motion. It could be carried with a note of
the one year time limit.
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ITEM 9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS
a. Quandt Property
Graveley noted the letter to the State regarding this property and
giving 60 days for a field survey and report to the City of State's
actions.
b. NOAA Installation on Marathon Road
Noted the memorandum from Graves which had been passed out prior to
the meeting.
Graves said he had nothing to add. He felt the memo's were an
adequate representation of Administration's view of the RV Code.
If the Commission was not happy with the way the code reads they
could suggest revisions.
Bannock thanked Graves for his help in this matter. The intent of
Bannock wasn't to chase NOAA off, but to bring attention to what he
felt was a poorly written code. By reading the letter regarding
the definition it is not a RV. Bannock said he had trouble with a
couple of items in the definition: I primarily designed as
temporary living quarters and; also, that RV's include, but are not
limited to Bannock felt that unit meets the definition of
the last definition.
When the code was written Bannock was on the commission, then if it
had tires, an engine and license plates, and said W on the side of
it, it was a RV. He said at the time, he did not have the
foresight to imagine that such a situation would happen that we
would have a unit, that based on the activity inside the unit we'd
not call it a RV. Bannock closed with, "If it walks like a duck,
looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it's a duck."
Bryson said he thought it would have to fit the definition of a
duck also. He felt that Bannock's interpretation was an overly
strict reading of the definition itself.
Bannock agreed with Bryson but felt it was defined wrong. Is a RV
defined by what goes on inside it, or what it actually is? If you
looked on the title it would list under "type of vehicle," the
brand name will be Winnebago, the type will be MH, Motor Home.
La Shot noted that the NOAA facility had already applied for a new
license, which will list the vehicle as commercial.
Graves said that the State's definition of a motorhome is not
necessary the code's definition of a motorhome. It could fit
perfectly into the State's definition for licensing, but not be a
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motorhome or RV under the City's code.
Goecke said that he was concerned about the public's view of this
situation. They see a RV, and might think the City has a double
standard regarding the legal .use of these vehicles.
Glick said at the time the RV ordinance was drafted the intent was
to keep RV's from becoming permanent living quarters. The city may
want to redefine this ordinance to avoid future problems.
MOTION:
Bryson MOVED to accept Graves memo as record of status on the NOAA
unit. Bannock seconded.
Bannock added that he would support this motion because it was
listed as a code enforcement item. He would like to look into this
ordinance in light of new circumstances which may occur.
Graveley said the Commission should take care of the first issue
1 and discuss review of the ordinance at a future meeting. Call for
question.
VOTE:
Bannock: Yes Glick: Yes Graveley: Yes
Goecke: Yes Scott: Yes Bryson: Yes
Hanson: Yes
MOTION PASSED. SO ORDERED.
c. Letter to Fandel's
La Shot reported that this was just a letter to have record of the
Council and Commission's decision regarding this issue.
ITEM 10. REPORTS
a. City Council
Smalley reported that Carol and Mark Padgett had appeared before
the Council, regarding vacation of an easement off South Ames.
Borough and Kenai Planning Commission had approved the vacation.
Than it came to Council and because of letters from Department of
Natural Resources (DNR), and Fish and Wildlife (F&W), Council
overturned the decision. The Padgett's wished to appeal. There
were 16 entities that expressed concerns over this easement,
because of these concerns the Council did not rescind the veto.
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Padgett's had brought a picture of this access, which is very poor
and concerned entities have been asked to come down and look at
this access, in person. This item may come back at a later date.
Smalley presented copies of the CIP list for 1992/93. Thompson
Park water sewer interceptor was the priority item on this list.
Public Hearings were all passed.
A change order was approved for additional costs related to delayed
construction on the Courthouse due to contaminated soils.
Baron Park S/D is an item where PTI is considering relocating to
Kenai. The City had an appraisal done and it came out
approximately, $118,500.00. The City is looking to establish a
relationship with PTI to get this facility into Kenai.
The Mayor reported that the FAA should be employing 85-90 people at
their facility within the next two years.
Senator Stevens was in town, the Lake Clark exhibit opened at the
KBVCC and the Council took a tour of the new Fire Training
Facility.
Smalley said he had told Council about the Commission's concerns
regarding the sign ordinance. The Council expressed concerns about
changing the present ordinance, but not loosen the strings just to
cater to big business.
b. Borough Planning
Bryson reported on items of interest to the City: Item 2 a. FBO S/D
# 5 was approved and; consideration of Plats, items 1 & 6:
Wildwood Corrections and Right-of-Way map.
Items of general interest: Item G1. McGahan Industrial Park S/D -
this is an airport and the applicant is planning to expand. Their
was an appeal under Ordinance 21-12. The Planning Director had
determined that 21-12 would not be applicable in this situation.
There was an appeal at this meeting and the Commission upheld the
Planning Director's decision. The appellant could now go to the
Assembly.
c. Townsite Historic Task Force
Hanson reported that Chairman Jim Arness had prepared an outline
~ and the Committee reviewed the outline point by point, making
recommendations and changes. Hanson brought up the concerns of P&Z
regarding the Task Force becoming a Commission, but the group
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didn't change that.
Goecke said he missed the meeting but he talked to Arness and the
Mayor had told him, unless things change drastically that group
will not be a Commission. The Council has serious doubts about two
entities controlling that zone.
Graveley asked how long the process of reviewing the ordinance
would take.
Hanson said they did not want to wrangle with the exact wording in
Committee. They'll send their ideas to Graves and he will rewrite
the ordinance. Then the Task Force will review and present a final
draft to Council. Hanson also volunteered to be the permanent
representative on the Task Force for P&Z.
Graveley thank Hanson for that and for his dedication to the
community.
d. City Administration
La Shot reported that the City had started an abatement on Cook
Inlet Drive. The City had cleaned up an area there at the
approximate cost of $5,000 and there was a lien placed on the
property. An abatement had also been started on 4th Avenue, but
the owners had contacted the city and asked for more time to
renovate this property. The City had requested that the windows be
boarded and the building secured until the renovation begins.
La Shot had also investigated a complaint of people living in RV's
off Beaver Loop Road. He had notified the State that these people
were there and were in violation of several of the City codes.
ITEM 11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED
ITEM 12. INFORMATION ITEMS
1. City Council Agenda
2. KPB Planning Commission Agenda
ITEM 13. COMMISSION COMMENTS & OUESTIONS
Smalley said that the Council had sworn in Mayor Williams for
another term and also Christine Monfor would serve again. The new
Council member was Jim Bookey. AML will be held in Juneau the
second week of November, several councilpersons 'and City
Administrators will attend this conference.
Gravely asked La Shot about the vacant house on Float Plane road.
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La Shot reported that someone had purchased the property and was in
the process of renovating it. They had approached the city about
placing a mobile home on the lot to live in while they did the
work. After several complaints from neighbors the trailer
disappeared.
Graveley asked the Commission how they felt about reviewing the RV
code. It was the group consensus to wait until the first of the
year to start this review.
Paul Hanson, Kathy Scott and Art Graveley reported they would be
unable to attend the first meeting in December. Bryson reminded
P&Z that in the past the 2nd meeting in November and December have
been canceled due to the holidays. This will make it important for
all other Commission members to attend so a quorum can be
established.
ITEM 14. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at
approximately 7:55 p.m. The Commission and Council went into a
work session for review of sign ordinance at 8:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
ett ar eY
Transc ibing Secretary