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*** Meeting Agenda***
Thursday, April 18, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Kenai River Center
I. CALL To olinER
A. Ro11 Call
B. P.pprcval of 3/21; 02 minutes
C. Agenda Changes and Approval
II. PUBLIC COMMEN'T'
III. NEW BUSINESS
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A. Recent Alaska Board of Fish Decisions affecting the Kenai River, Mark
Gamblin, Area Sportfish Biologist; ADF&~G
B. Kenai River Angler Impact Study, Mary King, P.DF&G
C. Doug Reger, Hydraulic and Quartentary Geology of the Kenai River (EPA
Grant)
D. Snug Harbor Road Snowmachine Parking Area Proposal
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. Commercial Operator Committee: draft guide board proposal
B. Sterling Highway MP 45-60 Report: Janette Cadieux, Stakeholder process
report; Chris Degernes, agency report
C. Kenai River Center Update.
i. DOT Clearing along ROW in Cooper Landing
V. PUBLIC COMMENT
VI. ADJOURNMENT
A. Board Comments
B. Date/Agenda of Next Meeting
Committee MeetinQS at the KI2C: 4/18/02:4:OO~pm: Commercial Operators Conmittee
tlieeting; 5:00 p.m. Forest Legacy Committee Meeting
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I{enai River Special IVdanagement Area Advisory Board
Meeting Minutes
Thursday, March 21, 2002
7:00 p.m.
Kenai River Center
I. CALL. TO DRDER
A. Roll Call
Present: Joe Connors, Ted Wellman, Brett Huber, Dave Westerman, Rick
Wood, Lance Trasky, Chris Degernes, Robin West, Paul Shadura, Janette
Cadieux, Deric Marcorelle, Ann Whitmore-Painter, Linda Snow, Bill Shuster,
and Tim Navarre
Absent: Jirn Golden, Charles Quarre
B. Approval of 2/21/02 mhmtes
Approved as written.
B. Agenda Changes and Approval
Ted moved the Boat Wake Study to item B timder new business.
II. PUBLIC COiVIMENT
Sam McDowell discussed the contamination site in Sterling at Cook's Tesoro and
the affects on the Kenai River. He claims that the contamination has not been
cleaned up. Sam went over a handout he gave to 7Ced W.
.Joe C. asked how much fuel is thought to still be present in the ground? Sam
McDowell estimated about 7,000-10,000 gallons.
III. NEW BUSINESS
A. t~Iilce Lilly, Alaska Water Resources Association Meeting
Announcement
Mike asked the board to co-sponsor the American Water Resources Assoc.
anneal meeting. Fie said they are asking for support only, not funding.
The AWRA meeting is from April 8`h-10`" at the Kenai River Center. One
of the sessions will address the potential impacts of low-level nutrients and
persistent organic polhitants in the Kenai River watershed, and other
sessions will have some relevance to the Kenai River.
Mike also provided an update to the Board related to the surface/ground
water project he has been working on. Two index sites on the Kenai River
were chosen, one on the lower part of the Kenai River at the Pillars Boat
Launch and;one at he Soldotna City Park (old DOT site). They installed
wells along these sites to look at the mass exchange interactions between
ground water and the river.
Mike said the data shows how groundwater impacts the river at many
scales and is concerned that current regulations on river management do
not address this. He urged the Board to participate in the upcoming
AWRA meetings and become more involved in water resource issues.
Brett H. made a motion to co-sponsor the upcoming meeting. Joe C.
seconded the motion.
Tem N. asked if sponsoring is within the board's purview. Ted W. said it
would be good to lend supporC for activities that help us do a better job in
advising resource management agencies.
Vote was unanimous to support the AWRA.
B. Boat Wake Study -Ptaase II, Gordon Nelson, USGS
Gordon said they. have been trying to determine how they can help out
with this study. He has asked his staff to concentrate on one section of the
river to better understand the process. He said they were looking fora 1-2
kilometer section of the river to conduct this phase and are currently
loolting at the Pillars area.
Gordon proposed to start out with a habitat study, which includes an
extremely detailed map of bottom materials, banks, bank angles, soils and
such. He also has planned on doing repetitive acoustic doppler profile
surveys at muhiple stream gages in the study section of the river. Once the
habitat studies are started, they will create around.a dozenrross sections
for analysis. Currently Gordon is working on designs of how to conduct
the surveys.
Gordon talked about how the waves create beaches each year along the
banks. These beaches make great energy attemrators since the wave roll
on the beach, break up and do not slam into the banks like they would on a
vertical bank. USGS will want to look at natural attenuation of wakes and
also evaluate how ground water affects these banks (i.e. ground water
forcing material out of the bank).
Gordon also proposes to evaluate suspended sediments and track where
they go. They will track the sanlpling day and night during Juiy. They
want to then create a video documentation of this, to show how boat
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passings affect the river bank. This will create good documentation,
which will lead to the next step. Gordon said he would have a draft
document available for the board soon:
Dave W. asked how long is the 4ime period for this study. Gordon said it
would take most of the summer starting in May.
Lance T. asked how this study would correlate to what the Corps study
provided and will it be able to evaluate how the boat wakes maybe
accelerating erosion of the banks. Gordon said they would be using the
video equipment and the information from the sediment study to determine
this.
Ted W. asked how this study is going to use the Corps study. Gordon said
the Corps study was valuable, but converting the study to a way to
measure how much erosion those boats are causing would be difficult.
Brett A. said he thought this study was to build off of the first one and
asked where we are going now with this new study. Gordon said the
detailed bank mapping would help to determine characteristics of banks
that are more susceptible to bank erosion than other banks He also stated
that his staff wanted to map whole reaches of the river and Gordon said it
would be too diffictdt to do this.
Lance T. said there are two parts here, one to confirm if boat wakes are in
fact accelerating erosion: of the river banks and second to get information
to allow Gordon to distinguish whether there is a distinct difference
between wave heights and wave energies
Brett K. said Dr. Maynord suggested Looking at thresholds depending on
bank heights and soil types, and nothing here addresses this.
Paal S. said we need more work on this and asked for a better study to do
what we want.
Ted W. suggests the boat wake committee discuss this more with Gordon
Nelson.
C. ZIp 1Vlart C'ontaminatiou Report, Don Fritz, AIlEC; Cook's Tesoro
Contamination Report -Paul Horwath, ADEC
Don Fritz gave a brief history on the Zip Mart spill. Tn 1995 an
installation of an upgraded tank system found minor site contamination.
The business continued to operate for several years while DEC continued
to ask for further assessment of area to confirm the extent of the release.
In fall of 2000 an engineering fain hired by the operator n_r"the site put in 5
monitor wells and encountered standing free product about 1 foot deep on
the aquifer. Since then, the monitor wells have found a lot of free product
in the water. DEC estimated about 100,000 gallons of gasoline were
released over a long period of time. The Kenai River is about 1 mile away
from the site.
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In 1993 the underground lines were replaced with double walled lines that
were supposed to be able to detect leaks. In 1995 new double walled tanks
were installed. Currently no leaded gasoline or diesel has been found and
DEC thought the contractor had it fingerprinted to apost 1994 release but
theyare not sure now:
The owner/operator had been funded by state grants so far but there is not
enough grant monies to continue with the assessment and free product
recovery. The Zip Mart owners have stated that they do not have the
resources to clean up the site, so DEC has stepped in to start the clean up
priase.
Currently DEC is starting Phase Two in which they evaluate how to
recover the free product. Don said to help evaluate the extent of the free
product and plan for recovery, they are planning to put in another 15
monitoring wells.
Paul S. asked if there was any chance this spill will reach the Kenai
River. Don said it is not likely to reach the river. The farthest distance a
spill like this has gone is around''/4 mile past the source edge.
Brett i3. asked if a hydrogeologist has evaluated the ground water flow.
Don said no and believes this is a simple and straightforward issue. What
DEC cannot figure out is why the wafer well on theZip Mart site has not
been contaminated.
Ted W. asked when DEC first became aware of this large amount of fuel.
Don said DEC first knew in December 2001 or January 2002. DEC was
aware of a minor contamination on the site after the 1995 tank upg-ade
during a site assessment. They believe the major contamination came
from the lines between the tanks and the island, but they are unsure when
the release happened.
Tim N. asked what DEC's timetable is now for action. Don said May or
Tune DEC will do apilot study on free product recovery and hopefully
have the system installed and operational by July. There should be art
assessment done starting mid April.
Janette C. would like to know what DEC knows about the aquifers that
are contaminated and how they communicate with their sun-oundings and
what makes DEC cerCain that the Kenai River will not be affected. Don
stated simply the distance is too great from the river.
Paul Horvath also said that DEC's investigation history with this type of
spill shows that after the gasoline dissipates in the ground water it does not
migrate more than a''/n mile from the site.
Paul Horwath~ gave abrief history on the Cook's Tesoro spill including
when DEC became aware ofthe contamination in 1989 when DOT was
conducting an evaluation for right of way expansion. In 1990 the State
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paid a contractor to excavate the site; treat and remove the contaminated
materials. Additional monies spent at the site since have been used to
contirue monitoring the ground water. Up until3 years ago when Sam
McDowelP'filed a lawsuit and had a consultant drill a well that found free
product, DEC had not found any free product: on he site: So far, no free
product has been found. on south side of highway. There has, however,
been contamination found on properties on the south side of the highway
from the station. Paul said DEC plans to continue to monitor some of the
wells but does not intend to pursue additional proactive cleanup on this
site.
Joe C. said he is concerned about the proximity to the Kenai River and the
fact that it's headed to the Moose River. Paul said in. DEC's opinion, this
site has been thoroughly assessed with many of the monitoring wells
coming back clean for years. He says this site is not likely to get worse.
Dave W. asked what caused the leak and what is being done to prevent
future leaks. Paul said this leak probably came from numerous small leaks
in the pipes over the years. He states that between 1988 and 1998 there
was a phase in to change the underground storage tank systems to meet
stringent standards including leak detections and double wall tanks and
piping.
Lance T. asked if DEC has taken any sediment samples in the Kenai and
Mooserivers downstream of the spill site:- .Paul said heyhave not
pursued testing beyond the location of the clean wells.
Brett H. asked if there is any way to remove the free product found. Paul
said they are getting almost no recoverable free product, 1-2 ml. a day,
which is not really worth the effort.
Brett H. made a motion for the board to write a letter to DEC, EPA and
affected management agencies suggesting a minimum sampling be done in
the Kenai River. Joe C. seconded the motion.
Ted W. said he is especially concerned that six years had passed before
any action was taken at the Zip Mart, and would like to offer an
amendmentto the letter that the Board avoid taking a position by keeping
the letter generic, since This is too closely tied to potential lawsuits and the
board should avoid a legal issue.
The vote was unanimous for the letter to be sent.
D. Forest Legacy Program, Evie Witten
Evie said she is currently working on an assessment of need for the Forest
Legacy Program. in Alaska. The Nature Conservancy is under contract
with Alaska State Parks to do the assessment.
The Forest Legacy Program is a national program run by the USFS to
provide federal funding for conserving resource values of private forested
lands from conversion to non-forested status The emphasis is on keeping
lands in private ownership when possible. The program usually provides
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75% federal and 25% state match funding: Each state's Forest Legacy
Program is unique, with each tailored to the state's needs.
Evie said she is working on setting up an assessment of need which
includes researching and:compiiing information on forests and forest
resources in the state and is seeking input fromgroups and people around
the state on what are important resources and what people want protected.
Evie said she would like to see a response from individuals or the board as
a whole and would like those by May 1.
Ted mod. said he would like to see a small committee coma together to
discuss this before the next meeting.
Tim N., Chris D., Robin W., Ann W-P. and Linda S. volunteered for the
committee, which will give a summery of what is going on and provide a
recommendation to the board at the next meeting.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. Recreation Use Study Committee-Report and Recommendations,
Chris Degernes
Chris said the committee has met twice since the February 21s` board
meeting. The primaty issue was to work on the survey. Several drafts
have circulated and Dr. Brown has provided his recommendations. Tn his
comments to the committee, he recommended comparing use levels in
2002 with use in 1992, so would urge that a survey using similar questions
be utilized. Chris said there were concerns regarding whether this survey
may be perceived as negative, so the committee added a question to try to
gauge satisfaction. The committee also worked on a draft schedule for
surveys, including where and when to survey to reach different types of
users. During the discussion of the GPS monitoring effort, it was
estimated that the ratio of guided versus private boats is approximately
70% - 30% during June and July on the lower river. However, if the
sampling is done at the same ratio, there is a risk that too few private boats
might be sampled, so Dr. Brown has recommended that roughly equal
numbers of guidecUprivate boats be sampled, and he can correct for the
disproportionate sample later. The video monitoring is being worked on
now, but no schedule for dates and locations has been made yet.
Janette C. made a motion for the board to accept the survey as proposed.
Paul S. seconded the motion.
Brett II. said he is not comfortable with the survey as it is. He said it does
"' not give much of an opportunity for folks to say they had a good time.
Joe C. said he still has some concerns,mainigregarding question #10
which he believes is loaded and section three that he thinks is too
redundant and asks too many non-motorized questions.
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Paul S. says he likes the form as it is and that it is important to compare it
to the 1992 survey.
Ted W, said this survey came out of the Comprehensive Plan as one of the
maj or recommendations regarding guided use on the Kenai River. Joe
asked ifthis is for the owes riveronly: Ted said during2002, the lower
river will be the section we'll concentrate on.
Tim N. made a motion to move question # 9 to ~#I azid start with very
satisfied to very unsatisfied. Brett H. seconded the amendment.
Bill S. suggested we talk to Dr. Brown to make sure the changes are not
contrary to the 1992 survey.
Deric M. said most folks filling this out are from out of state, are not
familiar with the politics and will not perceive this survey as negative.
The vote on the amendment includes moving question #9 to #1 and to add
a question to ask why a person is not satisfied, if they checked they'd had
an unsatisfactory experience.
Vote on amendment: All in favor
Tim N. says we have to feel comfortable with the survey and made a
motion to add a block "I don't know". Brett H. seconded this motion.
Vote failed, with only three members voting for the motion. Dave W.
abstained.
Vote on original motionto accept the survey: Motion passed with one
opposed (Joe C.) and one abstaining (Dave W.)
Chris D. asked for more input from the board on the schedule for the
survey and video locations.
B. Keuai River Nutrient Study Public Outreach Committee
Brett H. said they are not ready to move forward at this time. There are
some decisions being made on Phase I of the outreach study that included
putting a study plan together that should be complete by the end of
September. There is not enough of a product to do a good job of the
public outreach component until we have more information from the
contractor. The committee will bring more information on this to the
September board meeting.
V. PUBLIC COM1i~IENT
Sam McDowell said he is still concerned about Cook' Tesoro and wants
to be sure the Board understands that there is another side of the story
~egmpared to what Dl~,C. presented.
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Mike Lilly offered a perspective on the evening's discussion about the
contaminated sites, saying that it will be important to understand the
qualifications of the "expert." He states there are limits to what can be
cleaned up, but most sites can be cleaned up to minimize long term
impacts. Mike stated "inadequate assessments iead to inadequate actions."
He also stated that he feels that self-regulations are dangerous and
encourages independent reviews.
Suzanne F. is seeking comments on the draft Guide Board proposal by
April l l`n and comments on the draft Junior Ranger sixth grade curriculum
by the next board meeting.
VL A,BJOURNMENT
A. Board Comments
Paul S. says as a board member, his value on being part of the information
exchange with the people we are associated with is great, and the board
should restrain from getting too involved with these issues.
Deric M. said the major problems with these spill sites are that the
"responsible pai-ties" are not being responsible and are fighting the cleanup
process. The State does the best it can once it is diunped in their lap.
Bill S, said last night he attended the opening meeting for the Chugach
P,lectric re-licensing process and they might want to give a presentation
sometime in the future.
Chris D. provided a brief summary of the proposed budget cuts fa.eing
State Parks. Fortunately, none directly affect the Kenai River, but if they
do go through, it will devastate Alaska State Parks system. The proposed
cuts passed the House and will soon be considered in the Senate.
Robin W. said he appreciated the board reviewing its charter and thinks
we have been doing great job.
Tim N. said he wants to add to the next agenda a discussion on a
snowmachine parking lot along Snug Harbor road.
Joe C. said he encourages feedback by the next meeting on the document
from the commercial users committee handed out earlier by Suzanne.
Brett H. appreciated everyone's time they spend on this board.
B. Date/Agenda of Nest Meeting
April 18`n
Issues lined up already for next meeting:
Mary King, F&G, habitat angler impact study.
Mark Gamblin, Board of Fish actions.
Snug Harbor Road snowmachine parking area.
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