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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-10-11 KRSMA Board PacketSpecial tVlanagewnent Area "Working together...for the river" I{enai River Special Management Area Advisory Board *** Meeting Agenda*** Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:30 p.m. Kenai River Center ~ I i. I. CALL TO ORDER `~'- ~ ~ ~ ~ A. Roll Call B. Minutes Approval ~~ ~~ C. Agenda Changes and Approval II. PUBLIC COMMENT' _ III. OLD BUSINESS A. Guide Advisory Committee report -Connors B. Regulation Proposals - No Wake Speed Zones- Sinclair C. Kenai River Center Report- Russell IV. NEW BUSINESS A- Board Membership Nominations -Lancaster B. Board Development Committee Report - Shuey C. Board Planning Session for 2007-08 potential dates D. KRSMA Comp Plan Review Date E. Deputy Commissioner Comments V. ACTION ITEMS VI. PUBLIC COMMENT VII. AD.IOURNMENT A. Board Comments B. Date/Agenda of Next Meeting November 8, 2007 5:30 p.m. Kenai Area Office, PO Box 1247, Soldotna, AK 99669, 907-262-5581 - ~J / Kenai Peninsula Borough, PO Box 850, Soldotna, AK 99669 907-262-4441 / ~ ~ Kenai River Center 514 Funny River Road, Soldotna, AK 99669, 907-260-4882 i ~ -~ Aleaka Dlvlsion of Parks and Outtloor Recreation, DeFertinent oEA~atural Resources, In cocperafion wl[h the Kenai Peninsula 5orough \__~~ Ilk. A[ ~~%r. Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:30 p.m. Kenai River Center I. CALL TO ORDER: A. Roll Call Members present: Ken Lancaster, Jack Sinclair, Joe Connors, Brenda Trefon, Curt Shuey, Richard Dykema, George Heim, Jim Czarneski, Ted Wellman, Richard Hahn, Rick Koch, Robin West, Jeni Evans,. Robert Begich for Tom Vania, Tim Stevens Members Absent: Gary Knopp, David Carey B. Approval of May 10, 2007 minutes -Minutes were approved as written. C. Agenda Changes and Approval: Item D will be moved to after first public comment section. II. PUBLIC COMMENT Walt Arthur: Here to protest the taking of fees and licenses from the public trust to perpetuate agency goals and desires. That includes the Borough as they let development go. He also sees DEC as having total indifference of protection of the river in the issue of hydrocarbons and how to pursue them. There is more crowding, less quality of experience on the river, less fish, and smaller fish. Alaskans are being forced out. He thanked the KRSMA board for their efforts. The board is a public watchdog watching out for the river. But it seems like the proposals this board makes die in Anchorage or where ever they go. He then offered solutions. He would like to see the board's charter revisited. This board should become a regulatory board rather than an advisory board. He would like to see all issues discussed and not avoid allocations. He would like to see this board have a permanent board member on the Board of Fish to represent Cook Inlet. He would like to see the Guide fees raised from $750 to $2500 for residents and $1650 to $4000 for non- residents. He said the bottom line is agencies need to stop maximizing revenues and start protecting the watershed. III. OLD BUSINESS A. Guide Advisory Committee Report -Joe Connors Future meetings will be lpm just prior to board meetings on the second Thursday of each month. Working on a variety of issues to bring to the full board: Stipulation changes; concerns about existing regulations, loss of guide procedure, complaint process created last year. B. Waterbody Recovery Plan Status -Stevens Draft plan will be done by the end of October. There will be a public notice in December and a complete document by February. He anticipates the document to be about 10 pages. He will continue to do water quality monitoring to be sure it is effective. The water monitoring was done at river mile 10.1. In 2003 there was a similar study done at river mile 10.1 so they used the same location to compare data. C. River Corridor Planning and Permitting -Lancaster Ken met with the Borough mayor in regards to future corridor river permitting. There is a loophole that allows extensive development on the river corridor. It allows Planning 8v Zoning committees to allow conditional uses to already permitted uses. Ken said Gary Knopp will research this further. IV. NEW BUSINESS A. River Water Quality Report -Robert Ruffner There was a lot of water quality monitoring done this summer. Compared to previous years, DEC and Kenaitze tribe have worked very well with the Kenai River Watershed Forum. He was encouraged to see agencies working together more closely than they did in the previous administration. Water quality monitoring started 8 years ago. With funding from DEC reports have been summarized in a 211 page document looking at trends from 2000 to present. He said the board members will each be receiving a copy. Robert provided a chart for each board member showing preliminary findings of TAH (ppB) for July 21 through July 25th. Two different types of studies were done. One was to look at the Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 2 of 15 high density areas. The second was to repeat a study from 2004. Overflights were done to count boats to give more accurate numbers of boats. The water levels were low this year. There was 30-40% more water in the river than in previous years. Good news -the actual volume of fuel is going down. The number of boats was not statistically different than in 2004. They also monitored the river for turbidity. Turbidity increases with numbers of boats out there. This is potentially a new thing to monitor. Dick Hahn asked whether or not hydrocarbons are retained in the river sediment and if they are could turbidity be a serious problem. Robert said it could be. He said the heavy hydrocarbons are the ones potentially much more harmful to aquatic life. He recommended that a sediment analysis should be done in the lower river. Rick Koch: Where do you think it will put us when 2 strokes are removed and 35 horse is increased to 50 horse in July 08? Robert said he thought those numbers will go down. We have seen them go down already through the voluntary measures from the buyback program. We still saw a range of 2 strokes as low as 8-9% or as high as 30%. Based on the highest numbers for July, the removal of 2 strokes above the Warren Ames Bridge would still result in exceedences being measured at the mouth if restrictions are not made in that area. Rick Koch: In Iight of the information on turbidity would you say that the 35 hp limit should be left alone? Robert Ruffner: Yes. Ted Wellman: Was there localized testing done below high density areas like Beaver Creek? Robert R: Yes; we had readings below state standards in those areas of 4, 5 & 6 ppb. Brenda Trefon: How dangerous is the 10 parts per billion (ppb) to people participating in the personal use fishery Kenai Rives Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 page 3 off 15 standing in the water at the beach? The chart shows that section of the river is high for TAH. What should the standards be? She wants to see the board recommend that the lower river, where people are standing be made to meet a level below the State standard 10 ppb. Tim Stevens added that at the site they monitored at RM 10.5 the reading was 7.Sppb. B. Easement Access Planning -Gary Williams Robert Ruffner reported for Gary that access issues are important to get a handle on. There are approximately 110 access points on the river that are not developed. For various reasons some people would like some of those developed and some not. From health of the river to public safety aspect we might want to develop some. The challenge is there is no plan, no criteria to judge when someone comes forward with an idea to develop some public access. Then once developed who will take care of new accesses? There needs to be a matrix that shows some areas should never be developed, those that could be developed with plans for management, etc. C. 2007 River Operations -Jacques Kosto Rangers will be working the river through November as there are still plenty of fishermen on the river. Jacques provided the board with a field operations report. The staff included 17 c~nlcµntaarc who are tha front lino, Regi~tec ,Janque a there are three river rangers; two of whom are new. There are also one Natural Resource Tech and one Ranger Assistant. He went over the staff priorities: Resource protection, public education, boating safety, and regulation enforcement. There were several accomplishments this season including repairs and removal of hazards from the winter flooding and boating safety programs. Jacques reviewed the law enforcement statistics. There were half as many cases this year compared to 2006. Some of that can be attributed to having two new rangers. The common result of intense enforcement with high citation numbers in a given year (2005) is a decline in violations in the subsequent years. D. River Permits -Pam Russell Kenai Rives Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 4 of 15 Pam introduced Amber Wheat to the board as the new Admin Clerk for Parks at the Kenai River Center. Pam provided the board with the guide numbers and trends. For 2007 there were a total of 425 Kenai River Guides registered. There were 396 total fishing of which 372 were motorized and 53 were drift boat guides. There were 29 non- fishing guides. Of these 312 were residents and 113 were non-residents. Pam also provided other statistics to the board. E. Additional Regulation proposals -Sinclair Jack told the board the Division will be doing a cleanup of State Park regulations this fall. He has heard concerns from landowners about shallow water areas for boat passage that have now become water fares for boats on step. These folks are worried about the increase to 50 horsepower and what will happen to their property. Landowners would like to see some of these sensitive areas become "no wake" areas. Jack said four property owners would like to come testify at the next board meeting about this issue. F. Board Planning Session for 2007-08 At the next board meeting on October 11 Jack asked the board to meet at 3pm to go over the 2007 Accomplishment Update list he handed out. This would also be a chance to talk about walking through the existing 1997 Kenai River Comprehensive Management Plan. G. Deputy Commissioner and Director Comments Dick Lefebvre, Deputy Commissioner of DNR -Back in 2004 a moratorium to limit the number of guides was attempted that ended up in lawsuit. As a result of that the Department was required to complete a public use impact study on the river prior to any further measures made to limit guide numbers. That has never been done. In meeting this week with new Director of Parks James King it was decided we need to get this study done. At this point in time we are working with other agencies, DEC, F&G to see if we can come up with funding necessary to complete that study. We have gone ahead with regulations that were recommended by this board. Those regulations have gone to Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 5 of 15 public comment as well as public hearing. We are still moving ahead with those and it is controversial. At this point in time they were .turned into the Department of Law for final review. DOL made some changes to them and we just received them back. DOL unfortunately changed the intent in some of the regulations so they are now returned to DNR to clean up. We will then return them to the DOL before they are sent up to the Lt. Governor. Commissioner Irwin has asked for additional information on hydrocarbon studies in the river. DNR is working with DEC on their plan. Their plan is tied to our regulations. The regulations themselves are not a complete package. We have struggled with the river for years. We hear the problems with overcrowding and with the 50 horsepower. We hear people are running over horsepower anyway even though people are supposed to have them detuned to 35. It is hard to regulate. We have people on the river checking and sometimes we catch them a_nd sometimes we don't. These are all management issues. The Wake study that was done is tied to the number of people in boats (weight). It is also tied to the hull shape. We have to ask ourselves what is important. Is keeping the economic prosperity of river moving ahead allowing more and more people whether they are guides or just the Saturday fishermen, to the extent we kill the resource? The answer is no. We all have a responsibility and it is to the river. Without the river we have nothing. The resource comes first. Then y0u deride hnw yni~ USe that reSOLZrCe. Hnw many guides should there be? How many drift days? Hopefully we will work through the tough decisions. We have to make sure we are protecting this resource. This board has a greater responsibility and it needs to be used. This board needs to take a hard look at the river and the resource and decide on getting us the advice on how we should look at it. That responsibility is not being dumped on the board because as the Department of Natural Resource personnel we have an obligation to the public. We are your public servants. We have to make sure in our decision making that we are protecting that resource. We need the good advice from people like the audience tonight as well as the board members. We are all faced with a dilemma. We want fish in the river, a clean river and access to the river and its resources. The question is how to do it right. That is the challenge. Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 6 of 15 James King, DNR Director: It is good to be here. What an exciting resource you have here. You are lucky to live here near this amazing river. He echoed some of the things the Deputy Commissioner has said. The resource is number one priority to protect. He assured everyone we listen and will continue to listen. Some people accuse us of acting too slow or too fast. We want to slowly and methodically and carefully think about decisions so we do not destroy the river. At the same time we want to make actions so it does not get worse by doing nothing. We also understand this river is a huge part of the economy. We want to carefully incorporate that into the management of this river in protecting the resource. We also understand it is a huge recreation opportunity.. As far as planning goes we are pressing forward with the regulations. We are planning to have a public use impact study next summer. Another aspect of the planning is to update the Kenai River Comprehensive Management Plan that is 10 years old. He spent some time this week going through it and looking at issues we have been asked to consider and though we are still evaluating the plan, it is still a good working document and very relevant. Probably at this. point we do not need to open up the whole plan for revision. There are great guidelines to make our management decisions under the plan as it stands. We may need to do an addendum to it or add to it. So as we finish up our inventory for the public use impact study next summer we can bring the agencies together and start to talk about how we meld together all the scientific studies, public input with this new study. He said he has heard from almost everyone he has talked to that there is a time when the river will be too crowded. Some would say that was 20 years ago, some would say it is in another 20 years. Something has to be done or we will ruin this resource. He assured the board and the public that they are listening and that although they are the resource and land managers they are also .public servants. Ted Wellman: Thanked James and Dick for coming down. He liked what he heard with the exception of the public use impact study. We have done so many studies we could roll them out in a wheelbarrow. Going back 20 years the studies have all reached generally the same conclusion: the river is too crowded, too much commercial activity. Ted would like to see some action. Really need to move this process along Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 7 of 15 faster than we have in the past. When we had the Kenai River Working Group we had good momentum, moved forward and made good progress. We fought and argued and came up with solutions. All we have been waiting for was the DOL and DNR to get together and say what farther studies were necessary. That was three years ago! Appreciates what is said but hopes it comes to some fruition. It has been frustrating because nothing has happened for much of the last five years. James: There is a court order for making no regulations restricting use on the river until the public use impact study is done. That is why we need to get the study done so we can go forward. Dick L added that if we have so many studies out there bring those to him to see if they can be used. Dick Hahn: It seems that everyone focuses on what is happening now. There are trends in river usage in growth of use - so it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out before very long left to its own we will lose this resource. You will be involved in that loss if you don't look further ahead because we are losing it as we talk. When DEC is perfectly willing not to address the hydrocarbon issue for four years is plainly absurd [ref: the 2011 deadline for plan implementation]. The fact that DNR allows that just infuriates him. Thinks that when you made the decision to do two things at the same time, that is stopping the 2-stroke and adding the 50 hp at the same time was a monumental decision in the wrong direction. You are risking the economy of this entire area. You must look ahead -don't focus on today. There are plenty of trends involved in all the reports that Ted said he had a wheelbarrow load of that tell you we are going in the wrong direction in the management of this river. Do something before it is irreversible. He is truly concerned about the management of this river right now. Dick L: Said he was somewhat surprised since the recommendation came from this group to go ahead with 50 horsepower. Dick Hahn answered that Dick L does not know the complete history of that. Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 8 of 15 Ken: Asked if there is not enough data with the Fish 8s Game logbooks as well as what Parks has done to use for support. Dick L said it is a court order that DNR go through and assess if there is enough information as is. If we can determine that there is enough data we are in good shape. Otherwise we will hire someone to do the studies next summer. The three deputy commissioner's -Ken Taylor (ADF&G), Dan Easton (ADEC) and himself are committed to working together on the Kenai River. They have just met this week. Rick Koch: To follow up on Dick Hahn's comments; they are spot on. Why would DNR believe it prudent to have two variables in the equation of raising horsepower and at the same time removing 2-stroke engines? Collect scientific information and base that on increasing horsepower. Dick L: The Commissioner did agree to adopt 50 hp. He did look at hydrocarbons studies but the decision was made to go ahead. He said he is waiting for additional information from the Kenai Watershed Forum. Ted: One of the things this board is frustrated about is that the court decision is quite old. The board has been pushing, jumping up and down and screaming about when are we going to get the necessary things done. Now we are years later - it was in the first year of the Murkowski administration. As these things go through what are your plans for using this board in that process? Dick L: The intent is to utilize this board to the fullest degree we can -.even though it is advisory - it is a good diverse group. He will use this board as a sounding board. He said it makes his life better when you bring recommendations to him. James added that the beauty of a board like this is that it represents all the different user groups and we welcome that advice. It will be important to get the new study done or as suggested we will look at the old studies- it may be enough to meet the court order. But we do have to clear up that court order. Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 9 of 15 Dick L: Was a large mine coordinator for DNR for many years. That meant his responsibilities were going out and reviewing, analyzing and adjudicating permits for Fort Knox and the State to see if they could be permitted. He put together ar. interdisciplinary team of the different agencies, but also invited all the different interest groups to the meetings. It encouraged the agency team and the public to "take off their hat" and look at what we were doing, the best way to get there. He told the board to "take off your hat" and look at the best interest of the river. Joe: In the past we have made recommendations and forwarded them up to the Commissioner's office and never hear what happens. Feels like recommendations• go into a void. He asked for a commitment that DNR will interface with the board. For example the 50 hp recommendation was forwarded quite some time ago and not heard what has happened to date. No information going back to the board. Dick L suggested if they are not answering letters, have the board chair call us. He said the commitment from him will have James or himself or one of our people close to us will be here at every meeting. That way you can hand letters to us. James added he will guarantee response. If you do not hear from us, call Jack Sinclair. He said he will respond and aid in the communication. Joe: This board was ahead of the curve when there were critical development issues at Porters. Though it was in someone else's jurisdiction we could not get a resolution heard. And now we are faced with more development. Dick L: Wants to be part of the debate of the upcoming issues. Wants to make sure we are talking to them so he won't have to second guess what is going on. Dick Hahn: Since the river is narrowly defined as a Park is the enforcement of so called overlay districts -those 100 to 150 feet of riverbank along the river. There needs to be a way for the state agencies to interface with the Borough and municipalities to be sure that those overlays districts are enforced. There are ordinances and they exist but for the most part people just look the other way. There is a big condo complex being built as we speak right on the river in Soldotna. This is one more part of the riverbank will go to Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 200 Page 10 of 15 hell as a result. Someone has to enforce the already existing ordinances in what is called overlay districts to prevent that kind of utilization of the riverbank. The habitat of the river goes far beyond the bank. James said "you guys are our eyes and ears". We need your input on items like that. A letter to us addressing these concerns is invited. We can work with you whether we need to go to the City or whoever it is to discuss further. Dick L closed by saying " We are a team". We are trying to do the best job. We have a common goal. If you see something that needs to be addressed, bring it to our attention. You have a part and an obligation and we have responsibility. James: Hopes that board goes through goals for the upcoming year to identify issues to work on. We can be part of the team. It gets us all going in the same direction. H. Board Seat Expirations and Reappointments Board seats expire October 1. Jack said currently we have 10 applicants. According to the Bylaws there needs to be 3 applicants per vacant seat. There will be a work session on the nominations on Oct. 11 and then an action item at the next meeting. V. ACTION ITEMS No Action items this agenda. VI. PUBLIC COMMENT Ricky Gease: Strongly suggested as the board goes through the KRCMP to get one more person on the Memorandum of Agreement and that would be DOT. The Kenai Watershed Forum has done a comprehensive study of fish passage issues in the Kenai River watershed. There are probably 200 culverts that need to be replaced as they are undersized. The circulation of juveniles is being stymied. Invite DOT to get involved. Every day there are many trucks that go through Cooper Landing loaded with toxic materials. How many more years will that go on before one of them ends up in the river? Move the highway off the Kenai River. It is a danger to this river. There is Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 11 of 15 nobody else out there carrying the torch for getting the road off the river. He also stated looking at the difference between the present and the mid 90s of the number of property owners who launch boats from their property. He said the increased number of boats may came from the private boat launches as there has been a decrease in the number of public river access. This could be from property owners subdividing which would create more private access. Herman Fandel: Is a Sportfisherman and Kenai River Guide. He said he sincerely hopes something will be done to correct a bad thing with 35 horsepower. He likes the idea of 50 hp. It is a safety factor. Regarding hydrocarbons he said with this regulation we are heading in a good direction in getting bad motors off the river. He said he has a lot of money invested in the river and it is a precious resource to him. ilIl. ADJOURNMENT A. Board Comments Brenda: Happy to hear the city councils are talking about the personal use fishery. Buyback update: Brenda said last summer we had only 30. But to date there are now 160 motors that have come through the program. The grant ends in December and Brenda is hoping for an extension from EPA. Richard Dykema: This board recommended increasing motors to 50 hp as well as getting rid of 2 strokes. After all the studies were done, this whole board came up with the decision. Let's start there. Dick Hahn: The answer is a phased-in drift fishery for this river. It would be self regulating, but you would need a few more access sites and a few more toilets along the river but in the long run the answer is a drift fishery for this river.. Curt Shuey: Liked the comments about taking this board to task and "to take off our hats". In a sense it is telling us that when come in we need to jump in and swim. Not all know Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 12 of I5 how to swim in that way with experience in good healthy decision making process. Any support you can give along those lines in helping the board to gain a sense of how to function in that way would be appreciated. Robin: Our biggest problem is also our solution =People. This process has proven to be a good community sounding board. The frustration you received a hint of tonight is that after the process is the relative inaction from administrations. Appreciate the Director and Deputy Commissioner coming but especially the commitment that you will have someone here at future meetings because that's how we get things done. Ted: Thanked the Director and Deputy Commissioner for coming down and appreciate the interest in this board. He is concerned that we have seemingly lost some stability and lack of respect as we go through contentious issues. He thinks it would be useful to have a facilitator to come in and do some training to teach us how to treat each other with respect. As the demand for river use increase every user group will have to make some sacrifices. He is concerned about the section of the river below Skilak. Two weekends ago he counted 39 boats in a 2-mile stretch. 30 of those 39 were guide boats. That is a huge increase. The problem is those guide boats are out there 12 hours a dav. We need to keep that in mind. That the season is extending. Tim: Appreciate seeing Dick L again and a pleasure to meet the new director. Jeni: Wonderful to have you both here. Rick Koch: City of Kenai, City of Soldotna and the Borough are in the process of putting forth proposals to the Board of Fish to suggest a change in the regulations as to means and methods of harvest for the personal use fishery. It would require the use of motorized vessels to fall under similar regulations as DNR has put forth in their regulation. He would like to send that to DNR and have DNR support that in some visible fashion before going to the BOF. He said he will be bringing it to the KRSMA board as well. Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 13 of 15 George: Reminded the Director that the upper Kenai River is getting crowded. The most heavily used area is the refuge area and there are only 20 guide permits. There are crowding issues and as well as habitat issues. Please keep in lr~ind that there are three separate sections of the river and think about what is causing problems in each section. Robert Begich: We need you. The community needs you. Thanked the Director and Deputy Commissioner for coming down. Joe: Sounds like you will make a commitment that has not been made by any other administration and he said he looks forward to that exchange. Will help to get direct feedback and interface and this will help the board in making good decisions. There were a lot of positive vibes tonight! Jirn C: Refreshing to hear your comments. Nice to hear you point out the resource is first. Any support for board development would help as there are tough issues coming.. Training and tools to function would be appreciated. Ken: Some of the things that lacked in the past are support not just from DNR, but from the Governor's office on down. He stated he is a little disappointed to hear the comment about being satisfied with the 97 KRCMP. At the very least it would help this board to walk through it as a work session to See wtia,t a.rea3 of ui0 KRCiviP SiiG uid be reVi3ltcd. Dick L responded to the board comments: It is a good idea to set a time and walk through the plan. He left the board with this: Would it be beneficial to get both cities and the borough, F&G, DOT, DEC to come up with a memorandum of agreement to meet and identify the issues that need to be addressed? Thanked the board very much for all their comments and said the board would see them more. He will bring all the comments to the Commissioner. Jack: Pointed out that in the KRCMP under appendix E, paragraph 15 reads "That there shall be a Kenai River Technical Coordinating Group and that all parties through their designated representatives on this group will meet at least three times each year on or about September 15, December 15, and April 1. The purpose of this group shall be to discuss issues of common importance, to coordinate management and enforcement programs, and provide Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 14 of 15 information to the Kenai River Advisory Board. The Kenai River Advisory Board shall be able to request information and technical assistance in fulfilling their responsibilities, as required under Alaska statute. In addition to the agencies signatory to this Memorandum of Understanding, local and federal agencies can participate in this group, including but not limited to the Kenai Peninsula Borough, the cities of Kenai and Soldotna and the following agencies: US Corps of Engineers, EPA and US Geological Survey". That is the framework we need to latch onto. James also responded to the board comments: It is good to hear the board's perspective. It would be great for this board to sit down and review :the plan and he would like to participate. B. Date/Agenda of Next Meeting Next meeting will be October 1 1, 2007 at 5:30 p.m. at the Kenai River Center. A working group meeting will commence at 3:00 pm. Kenai River Special Management Area Advisory Board Minutes -September 13, 2007 Page 15 of 15