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April 28, 1993 - 7:00 P.M.
City Hall Council Chambers
AGENDA
1. ROLL CALL
a. Election of Chairman
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 24, 1993
4. PERSONB PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a. Resolution PZ 93-16: Encroachment - Jackson
6. PLANNING
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Sign Review - K-Mart
8. OLD BUSINESB
a. Resolution PZ 92-26: Rezone - See (Tabled 10/14/92)
9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS
a. Quandt Property
10. REPORTS
a. City Council
b. Borough Planning
c. City Administration
11. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED
12. INFORMATION ITEMS
1. TSH Work Session between Council and P&Z
2. Council Decision - Baron Park S/D No. 8
13. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
14. ADJOURNMENT
RENAI PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
April 14, 1993 - 7:00 P.M.
City Hall Council Chambers
1. ROLL CALL
AGENDA
Swearing in of new Commissioner - Kevin Walker
Carol Freas, City Clerk administered the oath of office to Kevin
Walker.
Members present: Duane Bannock, Kevin Walker, Ron Goecke,
Phil Bryson
Also present: Councilman Smalley; Jack La Shot, City
Engineer; Loretta Harvey, Administrative
Assistant; Jack Castimore
a. Election of Chairman
This item will be carried forward to next agenda when there are
more Commissioners present. Commissioner Bryson served as second
Vice Chairman for this meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION AND VOTE:
Goecke MOVED approval of agenda as presented.
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
3. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - March 24, 1993
MOTION AND VOTE:
Goecke MOVED approval of minutes as presented.
PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
4. PERSONS PRESENT SCHEDULED TO BE HEARD
None.
5. PUBLIC HEARINGS
a. Resolution PZ 93-10: CUP - Grubb
Bannock SECONDED.
Bannock SECONDED.
La Shot reported that this item had previously appeared before the
Commission. The Planning Staff had received the wrong legal
description on this property. The public hearing notices had been
remailed to the surrounding property owners based on the correct
legal address.
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Bryson - opened the public hearing
audience wished to address this item.
back to the Commission for action.
and asked if anyone in the
Seeing none he brought it
MOTION & VOTE:
Bannock MOVED approval of Resolution PZ 93-10. Goecke SECONDED.
Bannock Bryson .Glick 'Goecke Walker McComsey VACANT>
YES YES ABSENT YES YES ABSENT
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
b. Resolution PZ 93-13: Variance - Gilles
La Shot reported that this was in the Rural Residential zone which
requires a minimum lot size of 20,000 SF per lot. This particular
lot borders along an easement the City has a large drainage ditch
the City has. Normally if the owner was to split this lot, so
there was a lot in front and a lot in back, with that easement he
would normally have physical access down that right-of-way (ROW) to
the back lot. With that large drainage ditch there it makes it
difficult to do that. Without filling in the ditch and putting a
large culvert there you really can't do it. The owner has decided
to create a flag-lot which would go to Princess and from there he
will run the utilities.
The lot as it is, is big enough to get two lots that would meet the
minimum requirements. To do it the front lot would have to be
about 190 feet deep. This would make the sewer system pretty
shallow on the rear lot.
Bannock - If the line was moved back 190 feet where would the sewer
problem occur?
La Shot - The sewer line every 48 feet it has to rise a foot. The
sewer main at princess is a certain depth, but what I'm saying if
you add another 40/50 feet there he will lose another feet of cover
on the sewer line.
Walker - Thought he remembered that the City dug these drainage
ditches. And at one point in time it was discussed with the
property owners that when they would want to dig along this ditch
allowance would be made.
Bryson - Opened the meeting to Public Hearing.
***PUBLIC HEARING - VERBATIM***
Colleen Ward - 708 Magic Avenue, Members of the Commission I'm here
as a representative of property owners in the vicinity of this
particular lot we're addressing and basically we've already
submitted a letter stating our position on this. I think we would
all like to be as reasonable as possible. Some of this information
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is new to us this evening. If nothing else possible request an
extension on this variance so that we have time to become more
informed ourselves on some of these conditions that .were just
explained. I would just like to reconfirm that there is some
concern in the neighborhood. Originally we united as neighbors and
requested this kind of zoning because of the neighborhood we were
hoping to see develop in the future. And some of us have purchase
land in the area with these ordinances in mind. So basically, I'm
just here to say we are concerned, at this point were not
comfortable with the variance. And it's something we would like to
know a little bit more about before it's approved.
Bryson - Could you state your name for the record?
Ward - My name is Colleen Ward. I own land both right in that
area, right off of Princess and right off of Magic as well. We
have a couple of parcels back there.
Bryson - Do you live in the area too?
Ward - Yes I do.
Bryson - Do you have a street address.
Ward - 708 Magic Avenue.
Bryson - And you mentioned that you are representing several other
people, are they the ones mentioned on the letter?
Ward - Yes.
Bryson - The City had received a letter the signers are: Walt
Ward, Colleen Ward, Mike Mildbrand and Barbara Baldwin. That is
the letter to which your talking, basically expressing concern
about modifying the zoning.
Ward - Thank you.
Bryson - Thank you. Are there other persons from the public who
would like to comment?
Gilles - Steve Gilles, I'm the property owner. I would just like
to mention if I did have access down the city ROW I wouldn't need
the flag lot. If you included the flag portion of the lot with lot
2-A it would meet the required minimum lot size. And the property
is big enough to subdivided as is, without the variance, but the
back portion of Lot 2-A is fairly wet and plus the problems of
running the sewer. I'd like to keep it a little closer out of the
wetland, the future building site.
Bryson - Are there any questions of Mr. Gilles. I have one, have
you considered conforming to the requirement for frontage on a ROW?
To fronting on the area where the ditch is but providing a private
easement across the front lot to provide, in fact, access to
Princess?
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Gilles - I could do that. Provide an easement for water and sewer
but than you've got a driveway, you'd have to. If I sold the back
lot that owner would have to be paying taxes on a driveway across
somebody else's property. Which I don't think would be really
right. As for the aesthetics of the road the houses, I'm not
cramming two houses into a smaller lot, you'd still have 130 feet
across the front. You know, no building there just a driveway.
It's not like I'm cluttering the area up.
Bryson - Anyone else have questions?
Goecke - I had one, but it's the same as you had. Why couldn't it
possible be giving a variance to 2-B and extending that lot all the
way back to the property line next to that ROW? Basically the same
one you had.
Gilles - In that 12 foot ROW the ditch is about 12 feet deep up in
the front. It would require an awful lot of work to put a culvert
in and fill that in, to put a driveway down the ROW.
Bryson - Other questions? Thank you.
Barbara Baldwin - I'm Barbara Baldwin and I live across the street
in 312 Princess. My question is, how does the sewer run to the
back lot? I mean, the sewer is along Princess and along Magic and
it's stubbed into our lots, so how does the sewer line get to the
back lot?
La Shot - Well it will have to be run back there. The service
lines will have to go down the flag portion of the back lot to the
back lot.
Gilles - You would have to install two more stub-ins to the main
line and run those lines down along the flag portion.
Baldwin - What's the flag portion?
Smalley - This piece here.
Bryson - He's proposing a pan handle subdivision of lots. It
provides access from Princess. They'd be required to construct a
private sewer.
Baldwin - At the expense of the private property owner?
Bryson - Yes.
Baldwin - Thank you.
Bryson - Does anyone else wish to speak?
Ward - Could I ask a question?
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Walker - I don't have any problem with that but I would like to
make a comment. i have property in this area and so I have
potential conflict of interest. My property is about two, about a
block away.
Bryson - It's not my opinion that you have a conflict of interest.
Walker - It's just the potential that I would like to bring
forward. I do have property in this area.
Bryson - Yes, you had a question?
Ward - I forgot my question, sorry. Oh, no, the question was the
City, Duane was mentioning something about, if there is someway we
can work with the City in finding another alternative. If the
easement, or being that they did dig the ditches there, other
alternatives we haven't pursued here. Other than yes, you can have
a variance.
Bryson - If no decision was made tonight, you certainly would have
that option. It just depends on how the Commission proceeds on the
question. We are out of public hearing at this time, I'd like to
get this on the table.
MOTION:
Walker MOVED for approval of the requested action on PZ 93-13 a
reduction of minimum lot requirements. Bannock SECONDED.
Bryson - Discussion on the motion? I guess the first question that
comes to mind, from my perspective, it's well and good that there
is a drainage ditch in the ROW at this time. But that is
certainly, the course of things, this is not a long term situation
in terms of ROW, particularly if they provide access somewhere.
There will always be a ditch. The other item I have I have never
particularly liked flag lots, although I realize that they are
quite common in the last few years. They provide alot of solutions
to problems which are otherwise very difficult. This is a
situation were the legal requirement for ROW coverage is satisfied.
Walker - One thing I'd like to mention if I may. The property I
purchased in this area, I think I purchased somewhere around 1975
or 1976. At that time there was a small drainage ditch on this
property, and keeping in mind I'm about a mile away. I would have
to disagree with you that it's not a long term thing because the
ditch that is in front of my property has gone from about four feet
wide to about twenty five feet wide, literally taking up the whole
ROW and some of both sides of both parcels of property that it
supposedly drains. But basically what it is draining is property
quite a ways up stream. So I think, in this particular area of
town, if you look at the water table and a few of the other items,
we're going to have to make some allowances. The property upstream
of this is going to be drained into this property and beyond.
Similar to what would happened in Los Angeles where you have
viaducts or whatever you want to call concrete rivers. These
ditches are a permanent thing, they're not temporary. The water
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problem in these areas, and areas above stream, is always going to
be there. In order to develop these properties we're going to have
to either move some ROW's or change some ROW's and I'm not too sure
that the City, at this time, is willing to bear this expense,
rather than just allow some of these variance.
Bannock - I share a little bit of your concern about flag-lots,
even though I don't know as much about them as you do. But if this
was not a drainage ditch. If it was just a regular ROW full of
trees and the owner had proposed making this a square lot,
extending that 105 line all the way to the top line, whose
responsibility would it be to turn the ROW into access to Lot 2-B?
Can we move a lot line and block access?
Isn't the City facing some potential liability by making a
liability without access to it? If we took that line all the way
up he'd almost have his 20,000 SF. But there would be no access to
lot 2-B. Is that what the ROW is design to do? Is that what the
40 foot ROW is there for.
Bryson - I would interpret that to be physical surface access.
The City has preempted the ability of that ROW, at least in the
short term to serve the back lot.
Bannock - So is the City getting a benefit by granting the
variance? Can the City say, good now we don't have to fill in
this drainage ditch because we don't owe access because access is
on Lot 2-B already? Lot 2-B is going to reach out with a handle
all the way to Princess Street so we don't have to come up with out
own access, the owner has taken care of that for us? And what
would happen to that ROW if we were to do that?
Bryson - I would say that at the time the City decided to dig a
ditch instead of putting in a large culvert they had gained an
advantage by having a flat area, because they didn't have to go to
the expense to put in a culvert.
***END VERBATIM***
AMENDED MOTION:
Goecke MOVED to postpone this motion until we have more
information. Bannock SECONDED.
Smalley - asked the Commission if they wished to extend the public
hearing to next meeting.
Walker - asked that he motion be amended to include Smalley's
comments. The Maker of the motion and Second concurred.
Bannock Bryson Glick Go~cke Walker Mccomsey VACANT>~
YES YES ABSENT YES YES ABSENT
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Mike Swan - Surveyor, told the Commission they would increase the
lot to 20,000 SF and grant the easement and drop the Variance.
They were hoping to make suitable for all residents plus give
access, but they will drop the variance.
6. PLANNING
a. Resolution PZ 93-14: Preliminary Plat - Gilles
Bryson - asked Administration if they were comfortable addressing
a verbal modification to this plat?
La Shot - Said he thought it would be appropriate to pass the plat,
contingent on Lot 2-A meeting the minimum requirements for the
zone.
Bannock - Requested clarification that the flag portion of the lot
would be eliminated.
La Shot - Lot 2-A will be squared off and an easement granted.
MOTION AND VOTE:
walker MOVED approval of 93-14 contingent upon amendment to create
a lot of 20,000 SF as shown as Lot 2-A. Bannock SECONDED.
Bannock Bryson >~Glick Goecke Walker McComsev .VACANT'
YE8 YES ABSENT YES YES ABSENT
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b. Preliminary Plat - Baron Park
Bryson - introduced plat and asked for a Staff Report.
Goecke - Mr. Chairman before we going in farther, I am part and
parcel to this so you're not going to have a quorum.
Bryson - You're a part owner? That is correct. This would put
action on this item off until the next meeting.
Swan - This is really going to hurt the client because hopefully
this sale is going to go through by the end of this month. This is
an abbreviated plat that we're trying to hurry through.
Bryson - explained that the abbreviated plat was a process when
there is a simple lot split and there are no ROW being vacated or
dedicated, the lot only has to conform to Administrative review as
opposed to Planning Commission approval which can be up to a three
week process. The surveyor has indicated that they need to speed
up this process. Bryson suggested that the Commission comment on
this plat and perhaps have a telephone poll to get a vote.
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Swan - presented an as-built which showed the buildings presently
on site, they are Pizza Hut and CICADA.
Bryson - Noted that the lot conformed to City plat requirements and
lot size.
MOTION AND VOTE:
Bannock MOVED approval of Resolution 93-15. Walker SECONDED and
questioned the chair on whether the Commission could take action on
this. Mr. Goecke had indicated he has conflict of interest and I'm
not sure we can alleviate that conflict of interest.
Bryson - Said he has a direct monetary interest so the conflict of
interest cannot be waived. Bryson directed Administration to poll
absent Commissioners to get a decision on this item. Bryson asked
for a vote for the record.
VOTE:
Bannock aryson Glick ' Goecke Walker'' McComsev VACANT
YES YES ABSENT ABSTAIN YES ABSENT
Smalley - Directed Administration to check with the City Attorney
regarding the legality of a telephone poll regarding this matter.
I think a split vote will void your decision. Taking part of the
vote one night and rest of the vote the next day.
MOTION AND VOTE:
Walker - MOVED that the vote be taken of the entire Commission at
the same time. Bannock SECONDED. PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
7. NEW BUSINESS
a. Lease Application - Doyle
La Shot - Reported that this was the area where Doyle has some
trailers parked. The lease is about to expire and he would like to
renew the lease.
MOTION:
Walker MOVED approval of the Application to Lease to Doyle Lots 2
& 3 Gusty S/D and Tract A Gusty S/D #3 with terms and conditions as
listed in item 7 a. Bannock SECONDED.
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DISCUSSION:
Smalley - Asked if Walker's comments referred to the clause of
cancellation of lease within 90 days.
Walker - replied yes because it is an FAA requirement.
VOTE:
Bannock Bryson Glick Goecke Walker McCamsey VACANT
YES YES ABSENT YES YES ABSENT
MOTION PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.
8. OLD BUSINESB
a. Resolution PZ 92-26: Rezone - See
(Tabled for one year from 10/14/92)
9. CODE ENFORCEMENT ITEMS
a. Kenai Photo Quick - Possible Sign Violation
La Shot reported that the Planning Department had received a
complaint about the sign in front of the Photo Quick. It is a sign
mounted on an old car. It appears it is a prohibited sign and is
not permitted. He asked the Commission's direction regarding this
possible violation.
Bannock - asked it every car with a sign on it was illegal, how
about Pizza Hut or other businesses. The City of Kenai even has
signs on their vehicles. The only violation he could see was a
possible ROW violation.
MOTION:
Goecke MOVED to have Staff contact the owner of Renai Photo Quick
and ask them to remove the sign or get a permit for that sign.
,Walker SECONDED.
DISCUSSION
Walker - asked what the sign requirements were in a Commercial
Zone.
La Shot - Replied for an individual business up to 81 SF. It would
have to be determined if the vehicle is included in the sign, which
may make it a portable sign.
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VOTE:
AND ZONING COMMISSION
- Meeting
Bannock Bryson Glick Goegke '' Nalker McComsey VACANT»
NO YES ABSENT YES NO ABSENT
Bannock - Said if the Administration wished to take action that
would be okay, but he did not want to support that action.
b. Quandt Property
La Shot noted the correspondence in
He said that the City has asked the
the lease on this property.
c. RPM's
the packet (attached).
State to begin termination of
Smalley - asked that Administration check out RPM's because it
appears to be happening again. The former City Manager had an
agreement with the owner to clean up the code violation but it
seems that the violation may be reappearing.
La Shot - Said that he would look into that. He knew the owner was
considering an addition there.
10. REPORTS
a. City Council
Smalley reported on agenda items. He also reported that Council
had held their first work session on the Budget. .Telephone
interviews for the City Manager position will begin on Saturday
April 17.
b. Borough Planning
Bryson reported on agenda items.
relating to the City of Kenai.
c. City Administration
There was nothing specific
La Shot noted some letters from agencies concern a vacation in Caro
Subdivision. P & Z had passed this vacation, but Council vetoed
the decision. Now the property owners have negotiated with those
agencies to provide a public access easement in lieu of what was
there.
The owners of Toyon Village are proceeding with plans to develop a
76 spot RV Park in the area behind the apartments. This RV Park
will be in the TSH zone. Administration feels that this activity
would have grandfather rights since there was a sign up and some
RV's using the site last year.
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il. PERSONS PRESENT NOT SCHEDULED
12. INFORMATION ITEMS
13. COMMISSION COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
Bannock - none
Walker - none
Goecke - Welcomed Commissioner Walker.
Bryson - none.
14. ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business the meeting was adjourned at
approximately 9:05 p.m.
Res ectfully submitted,
~i
Lorett Hey
Administrative Assistant
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