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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-03-04 Council Minutes VerbatimITEM L: L -2. Council MOLLOY: Is that a question for me or ROSS: Well.... MOLLOY: I'll an swer if you like... ROSS: ...sure. KENAI CITY COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 4, 2009 PARTIAL VERBATIM DISCUSSION Discussion related to Standards for Approval /Amendments to KMC 14.20.270 Amendment Procedures. ROSS: I want to express appreciation to Councilman Molloy. He always gives us notice of what's on his mind and in the info section is a proposal of his that I think needs our serious consideration. I'm not going to go to the merits of it. I, I guess what I'm asking of Councilman Molloy, there's, and I've, I've already discussed this with him and the city attorney, I have serious questions and I'll let the attorney speak for himself, as to whether or not this can even be done under our Charter, a super majority of a council required for an ordinance. I'm well aware that there's one exception to majority rule in the Charter and that's on emergency financial ordinances as well as retention or termination of a city manager as two of our council members dealt with that situation at length. But, I guess what I'm asking is, that this come back as you work with the city attorney, it come back to us as a discussion item before it ever goes forward to PB&Z or Airport Commission so that we can at least have an idea that if we want input into the super majority thing, where it stands as far as under our Charter. city attorney... MOLLOY: Okay. The, yeah, you know, I mean, what was behind the super majo had to do with my, you know, discussion I was having with about, well, first off, to back up, I would like to see some standards in the code that the commission and us apply, you know. The super majority had to deal with, the idea came from the Anchorage code where Anchorage said, you know, if there's, in the parameters that I have, they require eight votes. KENAI CITY COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 4, 2009 PARTIAL VERBATIM PAGE 2 The reason I picked that had to do with what I was saying at the time was, you know, when you have such a great protest or opposition by so many people that are affected, you should have a compelling public purpose that outweighs the harm that they see. That's kind of a sort of vague standard and I thought votes were black and white. But, if it's, if it's not consistent with the Charter, then obviously, you can't bring that forward and you, you know, council cant do something that's inconsistent with the Charter without a Charter amendment. That was a, that's a good point that you bring up. I appreciate that you brought it up and I am planning on having a discussion with Mr. Graves and Mr. Koch and the City Planner, you know, tomorrow, so whatever I, I do bring forward, isn't necessarily going to be what's in the packet. You know, what, what's in the packet is like putting the ball in play and, and then I would bring it to council. My idea was that, you know, we would have a discussion and then it would go to Planning Zoning through the process. You know, what comes out at the other end may be different than what's started with. I don't know if I've answered your question. PORTER: All right, any other comments? Mr.... ROSS: It will come back to us as a discussion item before it goes to... MOLLOY: It, it will either be a discussion item or an ordinance, okay, and, but, you know, council will decide where it goes after that, okay, and, I'm... ROSS: And my only other comment on that is, in addition to P &Z I really would think that, especially as encompassing as it is and it ties in city properties, it should also go to the Airport Commission as a commission that probably has comments on the biggest pieces of land under one ownership in the city. MOLLOY: And I, you know, if I could respond to that, I have no problem with that, you know, I mean, the more the merrier. The, you know, these are some ideas I had. Some of them are a little bit vague, but you know, I pulled them out of the Palmer code, the Anchorage code, and, you know, maybe there's different ones or more specific ones like traffic, you know, analysis or something like that, that Planning Zoning might want to look at or Airport might have other ideas, and, you know, I have no objection to that. PORTER: Any other comments? Mr. Koch, Mr. Ross? ROSS: No. KENAI CITY COUNCIL MEETING MARCH 4, 2009 PARTIAL VERBATIM PAGE 3 END OF DISCUSSION. Partial verbatim transcribed and submitted by: Carol L. Freas, City Clerk